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  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    Hey VDK, I appreciate your tendency to help the poor. But by all means I'd say - go ahead and enjoy the dinner.

    The gift voucher which is lying down in my draw for the past two weeks is like a hot iron disturbing my mental peace of mind. While I appreciate the trend of appreciating the effort by way of a voucher, 1) if it had been a plaque, we can have this in the drawing room of the house or the desk of the workstation as a memory for ages. 2) if it had been by cash, I would have chosen another way of blissful spending. I really carry a great abhor and detest in the way our culture is deteriorarating. I really feel hard to digest the fact whether the 25 USDs should sink down for the 45 minute pompous show, for all the crappy (crabs) they serve. Don't worry. I just mentioned crab to mention about the mix of vegetarian and NV food. I am a pure vegeterian and abstain from liquor also. You know right?

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    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

    if it had been by cash, I would have chosen another way of blissful spending.

    You see, what was given to you was a gift. AFAIK, you won't get a gift of your choice, most of the times. I appreciate your willingness to help the needy ones. But, there's nothing wrong in treating yourself with an occassional lavish dinner, VDK. You at least have the heart to help others. So, take these things lightly. Just my opinion. :)

    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

    I just mentioned crab to mention about the mix of vegetarian and NV food. I am a pure vegeterian and abstain from liquor also. You know right?

    I know you well and personally I think that you're a very nice chap. Somehow, the low-vote given to you was too heavy for me to balance up.

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

      Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      See if somebody will buy it from you for less than Rs. 1000 and either spend it or donate it.

      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message.

      Lost in translation.

      Cheers, Vikram.


      The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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      • C Christian Graus

        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

        A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message

        Brilliant. I need to quote that. If you don't want to accept it, I say that selling it is the best option. What would burning it do ?

        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        If you don't want to accept it, I say that selling it is the best option.

        Sell it for money? Giving it out to poor a one like me don't seem like a good option to you? :((

        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        • D Dalek Dave

          No alcohol or meat! Wow, I couldn't go without either. (That is not to say I am a Carniverous Alcoholic, but I like both). Is that personal choice or religious observance?

          ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          I abstain from both as well (and Rajesh too, IIRC). Initially due to religion, but now because I choose not to.

          Cheers, Vikram.


          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

            Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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            modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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            Eat, drink and be merry. For once. Stop agonizing over good fortune.

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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              A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

              modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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              Joe 2
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              Appreciate your humanity. Will that restaurant give the food packed?

              Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he'll eat for lifetime. Pradeep Joe

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              • D Dalek Dave

                No alcohol or meat! Wow, I couldn't go without either. (That is not to say I am a Carniverous Alcoholic, but I like both). Is that personal choice or religious observance?

                ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                religious observance

                It is a religious observance but in a way, I seem to nurture a soft corner for our dumb friends too. Sometimes during travel abroad, I do encounter trouble locating vegetarian food. During my stay at Irving, TX; I had my own arrangements to cook and eat too.

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                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  What would burning it do

                  Desparate to get rid of that. I personally want to abstain from any sort of such vacuum pompous shows.

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                  Spunky Coder
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                  Simple..first enjoy the dinner and then arrange a lunch at an orphanage for the same value i.e 1000 Rs ...i think u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    See if somebody will buy it from you for less than Rs. 1000 and either spend it or donate it.

                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                    A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message.

                    Lost in translation.

                    Cheers, Vikram.


                    The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    donate it

                    I would prefer that.

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                    A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      religious observance

                      It is a religious observance but in a way, I seem to nurture a soft corner for our dumb friends too. Sometimes during travel abroad, I do encounter trouble locating vegetarian food. During my stay at Irving, TX; I had my own arrangements to cook and eat too.

                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                      Tech Gossips
                      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      That reminds me of something I heard years ago, possibly in a film... "So what do you do in Wyoming if you are a Vegetarian?" "Leave Wyoming!" :)

                      ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        I am a very poor person. You may help me by giving me that gift voucher. Please. I am hungry. ;P Hey VDK, I appreciate your tendency to help the poor. But by all means I'd say - go ahead and enjoy the dinner. :)

                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        your post resembles the following ENJOY A FREETRIP TO PARIS* *Conditions Apply.Taxes $100000

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                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                          Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                          Tech Gossips
                          A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                          modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                          Your pomposity is astonishing: just accept the gift with grace and enjoy it. If you feel that you need to help others then do so without all the crocodile tears and hand wringing. You are coming over as an ungrateful whiney git.

                          me, me, me

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                          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            donate it

                            I would prefer that.

                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                            Tech Gossips
                            A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian
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                            I hope you have my postal address. ;P

                            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                              Eat, drink and be merry. For once. Stop agonizing over good fortune.

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Very well said.

                              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                              • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

                                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                                Tech Gossips
                                A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                                modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                                Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                1. How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                                Take a poor person to lunch.

                                Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass

                                Now there's a quote. :) Marc

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                                  Simple..first enjoy the dinner and then arrange a lunch at an orphanage for the same value i.e 1000 Rs ...i think u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

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                                  Spunky Coder wrote:

                                  u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

                                  With Pleasure. I strongly feel that God created us in the world just not for merriment of our own self but to serve Him. The invisible omnipotent omnipresent gets felt by us and satisfied when a poor and needy expresses a little smile wave on their face.

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                                  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                    Spunky Coder wrote:

                                    u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

                                    With Pleasure. I strongly feel that God created us in the world just not for merriment of our own self but to serve Him. The invisible omnipotent omnipresent gets felt by us and satisfied when a poor and needy expresses a little smile wave on their face.

                                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                                    Tech Gossips
                                    A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                                    Great u have found a way:cool:

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                                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                      Your pomposity is astonishing: just accept the gift with grace and enjoy it. If you feel that you need to help others then do so without all the crocodile tears and hand wringing. You are coming over as an ungrateful whiney git.

                                      me, me, me

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                                      Well put.

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                                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                        Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                                        Tech Gossips
                                        A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                                        modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        1. How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                                        Take some homeless people to dinner. It is too easy to send money. It is harder and more valuable spending time with the destitute.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

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                                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                          I hope you have my postal address. ;P

                                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                          :)

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                                          A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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