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  • M martin_hughes

    Eat, drink and be merry. For once. Stop agonizing over good fortune.

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Very well said.

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

      Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      1. How else can this situation handled gracefully?

      Take a poor person to lunch.

      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass

      Now there's a quote. :) Marc

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      • S Spunky Coder

        Simple..first enjoy the dinner and then arrange a lunch at an orphanage for the same value i.e 1000 Rs ...i think u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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        Spunky Coder wrote:

        u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

        With Pleasure. I strongly feel that God created us in the world just not for merriment of our own self but to serve Him. The invisible omnipotent omnipresent gets felt by us and satisfied when a poor and needy expresses a little smile wave on their face.

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        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

          Spunky Coder wrote:

          u can spend 25 USD from your pocket for the care of those orphans

          With Pleasure. I strongly feel that God created us in the world just not for merriment of our own self but to serve Him. The invisible omnipotent omnipresent gets felt by us and satisfied when a poor and needy expresses a little smile wave on their face.

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          A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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          Great u have found a way:cool:

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Your pomposity is astonishing: just accept the gift with grace and enjoy it. If you feel that you need to help others then do so without all the crocodile tears and hand wringing. You are coming over as an ungrateful whiney git.

            me, me, me

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            Well put.

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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              A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

              modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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              Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

              1. How else can this situation handled gracefully?

              Take some homeless people to dinner. It is too easy to send money. It is harder and more valuable spending time with the destitute.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                I hope you have my postal address. ;P

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                :)

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                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                  Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

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                  A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                  modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                  benjymous
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                  Could you not just pick somebody needy, take them out to dinner, buy them $25 of food, and just have a glass of tap water yourself?

                  -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                    1. How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                    Take some homeless people to dinner. It is too easy to send money. It is harder and more valuable spending time with the destitute.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                    heh - great minds :)

                    -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      I hope you have my postal address. ;P

                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                      I can provide mine one too. :)

                      Apurva Kaushal

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                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                        Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                        Tech Gossips
                        A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                        modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                        You sir, are awesome says my first impression. That said, i think letting the voucher go to waste would be a just that; a waste. You could use the voucher for yourself and donate the amount spend to a charity of your choosing. that way you eat as required and do something admirable. Kind regards, Kris

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                        • _ _AK_

                          I can provide mine one too. :)

                          Apurva Kaushal

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          Not to me, provide your address to VDK. But of course, only if you're poor. ;)

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            Not to me, provide your address to VDK. But of course, only if you're poor. ;)

                            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                            But that is a problem. He is having only one voucher and the contenders are more. So tough time ahead for VDK to decide. :)

                            Apurva Kaushal

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                              But that is a problem. He is having only one voucher and the contenders are more. So tough time ahead for VDK to decide. :)

                              Apurva Kaushal

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Don't be too pessimistic. VDK will get a voucher or two, every week and pass it on to poor ones like us. He will be our savior. ;)

                              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                Don't be too pessimistic. VDK will get a voucher or two, every week and pass it on to poor ones like us. He will be our savior. ;)

                                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                VDK will get a voucher or two, every week

                                Then certainly I would like to be in list. I would even like to know about the comp. name :-D

                                Apurva Kaushal

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                                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                  Sometime last month, I had a gift voucher to spend at a star-rated hotel worth about 25 USD to be used against a particular lunch. (I have tried converting the INR value to USD) At least from this part of the country, I feel that this is a pompous spending. As a personal feel and policy, I feel and percieve a greater bliss if I help out some poor who is suffering from hunger rather than spending such a huge amount for a lavish lunch. Food should be the basic criteria for survival. There is a good saying 'Eat to live' but by going by mad and blind business promos like it, I feel whether people are trying to reverse the saying. I admit that there are people who just dial-a-dine but individual perceptions differ and I don't want to comment on that. I abstain from such luxury parties always unless there is a compelling business need for it. A little while ago, I have shared about it here: http://deepakvasudevan.blogspot.com/2006/04/luxury-parties-or-compassionate.html[^] Now I need a little help regarding the following: 1) Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it? 2) Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad? 3) The hotel management does not seem to have any option of having the voucher for transferred to an orphanage. Bad stone-hearted fellows. 4) How else can this situation handled gracefully? UPDATE: A shallow goat which just grazes the top grass seems to have low voted the message. Thanks anyway.

                                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
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                                  A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

                                  modified on Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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                                  Hi VDK, You should not feel guilty in any way to enjoy the food. It is another matter if the food in that restaurant is not good. In that case, you can throw that coupon away.

                                  Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                  but by going by mad and blind business promos like it

                                  Remember there are many people whose lives depend on the hotel business. That cook who works everyday at the hotel to earn money so that he could send his daughter to school, will really like you to do business with the hotel. Those poor and crippled beggars who wait on anticipation at night for the leftover food from the hotel will have to sleep hungry, if the hotel does not do business. Remember in this world the web of actions and reactions is too complex.

                                  Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                  1. Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it?

                                  It will be just an act of an unstable mind if you burn it.

                                  Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                  1. Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad?

                                  Does not make sense. It's a small issue so don't disturb him.

                                  Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                  How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                                  Go and eat at the restaurant, if you like the food. If it is not the case, give the voucher to someone else.

                                  You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                                    Your pomposity is astonishing: just accept the gift with grace and enjoy it. If you feel that you need to help others then do so without all the crocodile tears and hand wringing. You are coming over as an ungrateful whiney git.

                                    me, me, me

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                                    Was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that...

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Hi VDK, You should not feel guilty in any way to enjoy the food. It is another matter if the food in that restaurant is not good. In that case, you can throw that coupon away.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                      but by going by mad and blind business promos like it

                                      Remember there are many people whose lives depend on the hotel business. That cook who works everyday at the hotel to earn money so that he could send his daughter to school, will really like you to do business with the hotel. Those poor and crippled beggars who wait on anticipation at night for the leftover food from the hotel will have to sleep hungry, if the hotel does not do business. Remember in this world the web of actions and reactions is too complex.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                      1. Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it?

                                      It will be just an act of an unstable mind if you burn it.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                      1. Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad?

                                      Does not make sense. It's a small issue so don't disturb him.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                      How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                                      Go and eat at the restaurant, if you like the food. If it is not the case, give the voucher to someone else.

                                      You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                      Remember in this world the web of actions and reactions is too complex.

                                      Now, there's another quote. :)

                                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Hi VDK, You should not feel guilty in any way to enjoy the food. It is another matter if the food in that restaurant is not good. In that case, you can throw that coupon away.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        but by going by mad and blind business promos like it

                                        Remember there are many people whose lives depend on the hotel business. That cook who works everyday at the hotel to earn money so that he could send his daughter to school, will really like you to do business with the hotel. Those poor and crippled beggars who wait on anticipation at night for the leftover food from the hotel will have to sleep hungry, if the hotel does not do business. Remember in this world the web of actions and reactions is too complex.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        1. Should I just destroy the gift voucher by burning it?

                                        It will be just an act of an unstable mind if you burn it.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        1. Should I write back to my manager asking for cancelation of it? Would he feel bad?

                                        Does not make sense. It's a small issue so don't disturb him.

                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        How else can this situation handled gracefully?

                                        Go and eat at the restaurant, if you like the food. If it is not the case, give the voucher to someone else.

                                        You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                        Excellent, just excellent.

                                        Cheers, Vikram.


                                        The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                          Hey VDK, I appreciate your tendency to help the poor. But by all means I'd say - go ahead and enjoy the dinner.

                                          The gift voucher which is lying down in my draw for the past two weeks is like a hot iron disturbing my mental peace of mind. While I appreciate the trend of appreciating the effort by way of a voucher, 1) if it had been a plaque, we can have this in the drawing room of the house or the desk of the workstation as a memory for ages. 2) if it had been by cash, I would have chosen another way of blissful spending. I really carry a great abhor and detest in the way our culture is deteriorarating. I really feel hard to digest the fact whether the 25 USDs should sink down for the 45 minute pompous show, for all the crappy (crabs) they serve. Don't worry. I just mentioned crab to mention about the mix of vegetarian and NV food. I am a pure vegeterian and abstain from liquor also. You know right?

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                                          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                          The gift voucher which is lying down in my draw for the past two weeks is like a hot iron disturbing my mental peace of mind.

                                          Don't blame the gift voucher. There is nothing in the gift voucher chemical or electro magnetic which is disturbing your mind. It is your mind which is the culprit.

                                          You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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