Dictation for coding?
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Osmo and a 1 vote? i dont get it. who is osmo...i gave a 5 :(
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The one vote is cause I forgot to turn the joke icon on. :) As far as who is osmo, well that's a long story, but he used to frequent here but hasn't been around for quite some time. His website is here[^]. I'll probably get oned again for providing a link. :doh: :)
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I once worked with a guy years ago that wrote 8051 assembler with paper and pencil and had his secretary (yes, he had a secretary) type the code in for him. We never liked to get too close to the machines he was writing control software for...
Did he or the secretary do the debugging? :-D
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] Donate to help Conquer Cancer[^]
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Did he or the secretary do the debugging? :-D
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] Donate to help Conquer Cancer[^]
:) Unfortunately, the debug process was us mopping crushed cases of Pepto Bismol and shampoo off the warehouse floor from the inevitable crashes. It did keep you on your toes.
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Have any of you used voice dictation for coding? Are there specialized applications that support this?
I've tried, it is not feasible.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Have any of you used voice dictation for coding? Are there specialized applications that support this?
My wife uses Dragon Dictate for non-coding apps and it works great. El Corazon was looking for a solution for this some time ago - I think his conclusion was that he could save a lot of typing by using dictation for commenting but still typing code. I'm sure he will see this and reply. I suspect that it is possible, but probably painful at this stage. The biggest issue with standard packages is probably the non-dictionary variable names code is littered with. Maybe if someone did a lot of customisation to tie it into intellisense it may be feasible??
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
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My wife uses Dragon Dictate for non-coding apps and it works great. El Corazon was looking for a solution for this some time ago - I think his conclusion was that he could save a lot of typing by using dictation for commenting but still typing code. I'm sure he will see this and reply. I suspect that it is possible, but probably painful at this stage. The biggest issue with standard packages is probably the non-dictionary variable names code is littered with. Maybe if someone did a lot of customisation to tie it into intellisense it may be feasible??
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
I use Dragon Naturally speaking 9...I think it may be the one that replaced Dragon Dictate(?) I havent tried it much for programming as i have enough trouble typing working code lol, but for normal use it works great... and it even knows the differences between "Colon" and ":" You can add pre-defined commands and sections of text so that all you have to do is say something like "select XXXXX... make comment" or whatever your purpose is
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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I use Dragon Naturally speaking 9...I think it may be the one that replaced Dragon Dictate(?) I havent tried it much for programming as i have enough trouble typing working code lol, but for normal use it works great... and it even knows the differences between "Colon" and ":" You can add pre-defined commands and sections of text so that all you have to do is say something like "select XXXXX... make comment" or whatever your purpose is
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
Thunderbox666 wrote:
I use Dragon Naturally speaking 9...I think it may be the one that replaced Dragon Dictate(?)
Yes, that's what my wife uses - I'm just in the dark ages and still call it Dragon Dictate. It does work great, pretty well straight out of the box, and does formatting etc well for office documents. The main thing to remember is that it learns, so you should fix things the correct way and tell DD about it, not just go back and type in corrections. If you don't tell it when it makes a mistake it thinks it is correct and learns to make them again.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
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Thunderbox666 wrote:
I use Dragon Naturally speaking 9...I think it may be the one that replaced Dragon Dictate(?)
Yes, that's what my wife uses - I'm just in the dark ages and still call it Dragon Dictate. It does work great, pretty well straight out of the box, and does formatting etc well for office documents. The main thing to remember is that it learns, so you should fix things the correct way and tell DD about it, not just go back and type in corrections. If you don't tell it when it makes a mistake it thinks it is correct and learns to make them again.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
I like how it reads all your emails and changes its writing style to suit.. i dont like how it comments on who I talk to, and how I shouldnt have said that thing i said, and the football team i support sucks, etc... :doh:
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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I like how it reads all your emails and changes its writing style to suit.. i dont like how it comments on who I talk to, and how I shouldnt have said that thing i said, and the football team i support sucks, etc... :doh:
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
The AI is pretty advanced, sounds like yours is developing a personality - just wait for the teenage years when it rebels.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
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The AI is pretty advanced, sounds like yours is developing a personality - just wait for the teenage years when it rebels.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
cp9876 wrote:
just wait for the teenage years when it rebels.
That doesnt worry me as much as all the loose women it keeps bringing home off the internet
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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cp9876 wrote:
just wait for the teenage years when it rebels.
That doesnt worry me as much as all the loose women it keeps bringing home off the internet
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
Ah you have an advanced one there - I'd enrol it in an online uni and see if it can learn to write your code for you.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
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Ah you have an advanced one there - I'd enrol it in an online uni and see if it can learn to write your code for you.
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
I would but it squandered all my money on some online casino :-(
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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I would but it squandered all my money on some online casino :-(
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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Never tell your dictation software your credit card number..
Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
I didnt need to... its in my computer... i made the mistake of buying something over the net, it looked at it then... well... (Me < $1) = True "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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I've yet to find a programming language that treats the digestive tract as keywords :) Could be kinda fun: Colon.AttachedTo = Sphincter; if(Sphincter.Contract()) { Anus.Expel; }
I've spotted a bug in your code; should be : if (Sphincter.Relax()) { Anus.Expel(_poo); } If you contract your sphincter, you're going to get into a recursive loop and pop an eyeball trying to expel. Just sayin' :)
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Have any of you used voice dictation for coding? Are there specialized applications that support this?
I've tried Dragon Speaking for a technical user manual. I probably completed the job in less time than typing, but the first half was slow going while it (and I) learned. (Typical, "No, std not STD, you dumb a$$. Delete that. Delete that. Delete that. ess tee dee. Ah, that's better. Delete that. Delete that. Microphone off. Ah, that's better. Microphone on..." The second half needed fewer corrections so it went quicker. But that was a LOT of typing and over half was English language. Entering code would be much worse. It TRIES real hard to make correct English words and sentences from what you speak.
Gary
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Artificial intelligence, the algorithm's design would be specific to the programming language being dictated. There can also be a flexible, 'programmable' algorithm which would load parameters and scripts from a file. It is not impossible, but highly futile. If you are blind or handless, you are just going to have to wait for mind reading technology, or a computer program that is intelligent enough to develop the program from specifications you verbally define.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
If you are blind or handless, you are just going to have to wait for mind reading technology
There are blind typists around, presumably working with screen reader software or braille read-out. I'm sure I've either read about or talked to someone who knew a blind programmer. I'd be surprised if there was just the one. I agree that the speech-recognition approach may not be viable yet.
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ha, that would be funny. it'd be interesting to see how they differentiate "colon" from ":" or "semi colon" from "semi :" from ";" :laugh:
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CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
If you are blind or handless, you are just going to have to wait for mind reading technology
There are blind typists around, presumably working with screen reader software or braille read-out. I'm sure I've either read about or talked to someone who knew a blind programmer. I'd be surprised if there was just the one. I agree that the speech-recognition approach may not be viable yet.
A friend of mine in college was a CS major, and blind. He had a laptop computer with a braille terminal underneath it. Later he upgraded to a better laptop that had a smaller braille terminal and text-to-speech software. The synthesizer talked very quickly, but he said that he got used to it in a pretty short time.
Paul
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Have any of you used voice dictation for coding? Are there specialized applications that support this?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc[^]. Sweet, I love how CP adds the tags around the link as you paste it. Anyway, this is a link to a video of a guy trying to make a simple Perl program to read and dump a text file to the console|stdout. 10 minutes later... However, he is using Vista's default voice app, along with notepad, so I cant imagine ANY voice software would think *OH! he's coding*
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