Networks
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So if my router has a 4 port gigabit switch with a computer connected to each one, and a 10mbit WAN, and two computers are sending data as fast as they can to eachother, and a 3rd computer is downloading a file from the internet at a full 10mbit, the two other computers bandwidth will be reduced by 10mbit because the data from the WAN is being sent to all the computers?
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Depends how smart your switch is... if it's cluey, it will figure out which computer is after the information when the first packet is sent through, then direct it there. If not, it will simply push it along and the computer that wants it will grab it. Of course, if you have 4 computers connected through a gigabit switch, and one computer is maxing out your internet connection, the other computers will be bandwidth restricted. Given that the minimum connection between computers on your switch would be 100meg (assuming not all computers have gigabit cards in them), and your WAN connection is seemingly topping out at 10 meg, your other computers won't really notice all the packets flying around unless they are also trying to access the internet. Peer to peer comms would still have a minimum of 90meg to play with... In most peer to peer networks, the bandwidth restriction is between the ISP and the router, not between the router and the computers!! Anyway, I have a meeting to go to, so good luck with it!
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73Zeppelin wrote:
...and a formal degree.
Thats the expensive receipt I was talking about. I don't have the money, don't have the time.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
Thats the expensive receipt I was talking about. I don't have the money, don't have the time.
But yet you were trying to make insult me the other day because I am getting a degree and not going straight into the workforce... :laugh: By the way I was nice and answered your question in the lounge.
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CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
Thats the expensive receipt I was talking about. I don't have the money, don't have the time.
But yet you were trying to make insult me the other day because I am getting a degree and not going straight into the workforce... :laugh: By the way I was nice and answered your question in the lounge.
I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion
DemonPossessed wrote:
But yet you were trying to make insult me the other day because I am getting a degree and not going straight into the workforce... [Laugh]
I insult you because you insult me for not having some kind of 100k a year job when you are not even working, still living off of mom and dad, not even paying for your own education, food, clothes, computers...
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
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DemonPossessed wrote:
But yet you were trying to make insult me the other day because I am getting a degree and not going straight into the workforce... [Laugh]
I insult you because you insult me for not having some kind of 100k a year job when you are not even working, still living off of mom and dad, not even paying for your own education, food, clothes, computers...
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
I insult you
Well you try but all that comes out is something a 5 year old could think up.
I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion
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73Zeppelin wrote:
...and a formal degree.
Thats the expensive receipt I was talking about. I don't have the money, don't have the time.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
Take out a student loan. Or... Start your own business.
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Depends how smart your switch is... if it's cluey, it will figure out which computer is after the information when the first packet is sent through, then direct it there. If not, it will simply push it along and the computer that wants it will grab it. Of course, if you have 4 computers connected through a gigabit switch, and one computer is maxing out your internet connection, the other computers will be bandwidth restricted. Given that the minimum connection between computers on your switch would be 100meg (assuming not all computers have gigabit cards in them), and your WAN connection is seemingly topping out at 10 meg, your other computers won't really notice all the packets flying around unless they are also trying to access the internet. Peer to peer comms would still have a minimum of 90meg to play with... In most peer to peer networks, the bandwidth restriction is between the ISP and the router, not between the router and the computers!! Anyway, I have a meeting to go to, so good luck with it!
------------------------------------------- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Just bugger off and leave me alone!!
_Damian S_ wrote:
Anyway, I have a meeting to go to
Oh no you don't! :mad: Lets I have 4 computers hooked up to a 4 port router with the modem hooked up on the WAN. On each computer I have a program listening for something on a specific port. A far away computer sends a packet to the IP address my ISP gives me, it sends it on the port the programs are listening on. Will the program on each computer see that packet, even on one of those smart routers?
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
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Take out a student loan. Or... Start your own business.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Start your own business.
Thats what I have wanted to do since I was 12.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Anyway, I have a meeting to go to
Oh no you don't! :mad: Lets I have 4 computers hooked up to a 4 port router with the modem hooked up on the WAN. On each computer I have a program listening for something on a specific port. A far away computer sends a packet to the IP address my ISP gives me, it sends it on the port the programs are listening on. Will the program on each computer see that packet, even on one of those smart routers?
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
I'm no network expert, but I think the router fowards ports to a specific IP. On my router, for example, I have to forward ports to my local IP's. So if I want to open port 42000 on 192.168.0.25... Actually, I'd be interested in the answer to that too. I wonder if it's possible to forward, say, port 42000 to 192.168.0.25 AND 192.168.0.30... Hmmmmmmmmm.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Start your own business.
Thats what I have wanted to do since I was 12.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
Thats what I have wanted to do since I was 12.
Vote Democrat, get a government-backed entrepreneur loan and knock yourself out. Seriously, if you have a viable idea, talk to your bank. Present yourself like a respectable citizen with a well thought-out plan. Lots of institutions are interested in business loans.
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CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
Thats what I have wanted to do since I was 12.
Vote Democrat, get a government-backed entrepreneur loan and knock yourself out. Seriously, if you have a viable idea, talk to your bank. Present yourself like a respectable citizen with a well thought-out plan. Lots of institutions are interested in business loans.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Vote Democrat
Why? So I can be taxed to death and have all my freedoms taken away? That doesn't make sense.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Seriously, if you have a viable idea, talk to your bank. Present yourself like a respectable citizen with a well thought-out plan. Lots of institutions are interested in business loans.
I don't need a lot of money to start my own software company. All I need is a computer, internet connection, and a useful product to sell.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Vote Democrat
Why? So I can be taxed to death and have all my freedoms taken away? That doesn't make sense.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Seriously, if you have a viable idea, talk to your bank. Present yourself like a respectable citizen with a well thought-out plan. Lots of institutions are interested in business loans.
I don't need a lot of money to start my own software company. All I need is a computer, internet connection, and a useful product to sell.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
Why? So I can be taxed to death and have all my freedoms taken away? That doesn't make sense.
So you can get a socialized loan. It was a joke.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
I don't need a lot of money to start my own software company. All I need is a computer, internet connection, and a useful product to sell.
Shareware? I don't think shareware is a viable business...anyways, if you have ideas, setup a website and advertise. It's not complicated.
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I can understand computers in and out, everything from how the hardware works to software development, but networking has always been a tough subject to me.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
When hackers and under-world thugs are so complicated to understand and use sophisticated techniques to bring legitimate systems crawl down and succumb, networks need to be built with more complex logic in defense at least as a survival strategy.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
...and a formal degree.
Thats the expensive receipt I was talking about. I don't have the money, don't have the time.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
I don't have the money, don't have the time.
These are the investments for a greater rewarding career right? These days, at least in India, we have something called 'Distance Education' for working people to get degrees. For example, you can check out Alagappa University website here (http://www.alagappauniversity.ac.in/[^]) and try looking at the menu 'DDE' which has details about it.
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson -
I can set up a network easily, but I want to actually understand the ins and outs of networking.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
CataclysmicQuantum wrote:
actually understand the ins and outs of networking
That comes with experience right? We learn first alphabets in our school. Then grammar in next class. The fluency of the language itself comes while actually practicing (communicating) it. The scenario you described is similar to this example.
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson -
I'm no network expert, but I think the router fowards ports to a specific IP. On my router, for example, I have to forward ports to my local IP's. So if I want to open port 42000 on 192.168.0.25... Actually, I'd be interested in the answer to that too. I wonder if it's possible to forward, say, port 42000 to 192.168.0.25 AND 192.168.0.30... Hmmmmmmmmm.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Actually, I'd be interested in the answer to that too. I wonder if it's possible to forward, say, port 42000 to 192.168.0.25 AND 192.168.0.30...
Not as far as I know. A modern NAT router will typically ignore an unsolicited incoming packet unless it has some local mapping for it - and then it will simply translate the address and send it to one address on the local subnet. Essentially it allows you to distribute port listeners around your local subnet, but still only have one listener on each port.
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They are so damn complex, it pisses me off.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.
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DemonPossessed wrote:
I'm sure. If you're as good at programming as you say why is it you are working as a fast food cook?
It doesn't matter if I am the best programmer in the world. I have to spend thousands of dollars on some receipt that says I have been educated from a school which takes years to get. Then most employers require around 5 years of experience working as a programmer for a company.
The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.