Let's not forget that Jew-hatred is Jew-hatred

Ilion

Paul Watson wrote:

Right, because relative to the Jews no other race, nation, religion or sexual orientation has been persecuted. Get a grip.

I seriously dislike misrepresentation; it's so like lying.

Lost User

Carefull, not treading on eggshells when Jews are mentioned is tantamount to be a Nazi.:suss:

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Ilion

... not that that matters :cool:, since "Truth is the subjection of reality to an individual's perception" :suss:

Paul Watson

Ilíon wrote:

it's so like lying

As opposed to pretending Europeans have never been persecuted. It strikes me that a lot of good Europeans died trying to help the Jews. They fought for their lives and the lives of the Jews and were persecuted for it. And here you are saying that the Europeans are going to suffer like the Jews soon. Ta mate, burn your bridges as you leave.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Ilion

Paul Watson wrote:

As opposed to pretending Europeans have never been persecuted.

I didn't say anthing about the past. I spoke of the future and of the natural, and all-but-inevitable, working-out of the social-lies that far too many Europeans insist upon telling themselves concerning the Arabs/Muslims and the Jews ... and the Muslims and themselves.

Paul Watson

Not talk about the past? Isn't that the Jewish condition?

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Paul Watson

Yeah, sad that. Victims would get more help with a bit of humility. Two people I'd consider family escaped from Poland to South Africa during WWII. They were Jewish and remember crawling under barbed wire, sleeping in ditches and walking from Poland to the Mediterranean to be spirited away. They disliked it when Jews got special treatment or were handled with kid gloves. They just wanted to get on with life. Moving to Africa they saw plenty more suffering and realised they weren't special.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

Lost User

The Perineum's returned.

Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

Ilion

Paul Watson wrote:

Not talk about the past? Isn't that the Jewish condition?

How should I know? The Jews in my ancestry died long before I was born; I experientially know nothing about being a Jew. Shoot! I don't even experientially know what it's like to be an American Indian, despite that 1/4 of my ancestry comes from that source. But getting back to the topic ... even irrationality (in this case, the irrational Jew-hatred so popular amongst leftish persons in Europe and America) works out according to logical dictates. Fortunately, human beings *are* free agents, and can choose to break out of the irrational trajectory they are on: all-but-inevitable is not totally-inevitable.

Ilion

Michael Martin wrote:

The Perineum's returned.

And now that you're here, we have our AssHole! edit: Good night! But you set yourself up for that! :cool: Thank you: :rose: edit2: By the way, have you checked out your fellow Great Scientific Minds getting their comeuppance[^]? :laugh: edit3: I'm sorry about using the word 'mind' (I realize that you people, being Zombies, may have brains, but certainly deny being minds) ... but, well, it's a stock phrase. "Great Scientific Brains" just doesn't roll.

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Lost User · modified on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:12 AM

Ilíon wrote:

And now that you're here, we have our AssHole! edit: Good night! But you set yourself up for that! :cool: Thank you: :rose:

You fuckwit, I set myself up for nothing, merely pointing out in a polite manner that you are halfway between a cunt and an arsehole.

Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

Matthew Faithfull

There is only hatred of evil and hatred that is evil and the line between the two is a dangerous place. There is plenty about the modern state of Israel that is hateful and plenty about both Islam and the political leadership of the Palestinians which is hateful and there's way too much hate swilling around the whole area attaching it itself indescriminately to targets both deserving and undeserving. Anyone picking sides has basically already lost the argument.

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Ilion

Michael Martin wrote:

You fuckwit, I set myself up for nothing, merely pointing out in a polite manner that you are halfway between a c*** and an arsehole.

Ah! I see: you're jealous, since ... awkward position though it is ... it's far closer to a cünt than you are likely to get! edit: So, as things stand: I'm the Perineum and you're the AssHole ... and I'm *always* half-way between you and the Cünt.

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Haydn Chapman · modified on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:48 AM

Come on, try raising your game and use sentences that make sense.

Haydn Chapman

Thought i'd try get in there with your normal response to criticism before you.

R Giskard Reventlov

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

Anyone picking sides has basically already lost the argument.

What utter tosh. Certainly, picking a side, regardless of its intent and purpose, is far preferable to sitting on the fence unable or unwilling to make a decision.

Matthew Faithfull wrote:

There is only hatred of evil and hatred that is evil and the line between the two is a dangerous place.

Sorry, is that a non-sequitur cunningly disguised as a profundity?

me, me, me

Ilion

Since you clearly don't know what you're talking about ... and more importantly, don't care to know ... why bother?

Ilion

On the once side, the crazed, anti-American, conspiracy-theory monger spouting non-sense, who claims to be my fellow Christian. On the other side, the rabid, irrational 'atheist' (who for a change of pace is not spouting non-sense), who has repeatedly lied about me in the past, and of whom it is reasonable to believe will lie about me in the future.

Matthew Faithfull

You may choose to attempt to identify the lesser of two evils and hate the greater but in this case, as I'm not directly involved, I have the luxury of rejecting both. there is no need to say 'a plague on both their houses' because that is so clearly already the situation.

digital man wrote:

Sorry, is that a non-sequitur cunningly disguised as a profundity?

No it is a warning against joining in with those who hate, for whatever reason. You may as well know that I held the same position about Northern Ireland for many years, condemning the hatred and violence on both sides because hatred and violence is wrong. In that case I have always been particularly forthright with those claiming to be protestants and unionists because by appropriating to themselves beliefs and positions I also hold they implicate me in their crimes and their hatred. I can therefore well understand those Jews who rail against the state of Israel and its evils and am somewhat alarmed at how seldom I have ever heard any arab, let alone a palestinian condemning the appaulingly corrupt leadership and gangsterism which has been largely responsible for reducing them to abject poverty and unending war. That those in the EU who would try to govern my country would fund and arm those gangsters with my taxes makes me :mad::mad::mad: and I don't feel any better about the ignorant :wtf: moron :doh: :doh: zionist 'christians' in the US distorting US foreign policy and shovelling money and arms at godless warmongering racists who laugh about it behind their hands all because they can't tell the difference between the modern atate of Israel and 'The people of God'. Frankly I'm not sure which leadership is worse, the Palestinians political one or the US religious one. So please don't accuse me of sitting on the fence I just tore down, stamped on and set fire to. ;)

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

73Zeppelin

Ilíon wrote:

I seriously dislike misrepresentation; it's so like lying.

Then why do you do it so much?