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  • B Bert delaVega

    Google has done a pretty good job of sticking to their core values. (dodging flames now, ow that one hurt a bit). Being "evil" seems to equate to being prosperous. It seems that ANY company that saturates the market becomes the target. Even here. We all make a living from Microsoft and their products/technology, but others beat them down. Why, when it's the hand that feeds you? If the internet consisted of just 3 areas, I would be content with: 1. Email 2. Google search 3. Microsoft .NET Oh and CodeProject of course. But I could find it with google. Nice rankings BTW :laugh:

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    Shog9 0
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    Bert delaVega wrote:

    Why, when it's the hand that feeds you?

    It is true that a dog which bites the hand that feeds it is soon a dog unfed. But i'm not Microsoft's dog... ;)

    Citizen 20.1.01

    'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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      Bert delaVega wrote:

      Why, when it's the hand that feeds you?

      It is true that a dog which bites the hand that feeds it is soon a dog unfed. But i'm not Microsoft's dog... ;)

      Citizen 20.1.01

      'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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      Bert delaVega
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      lol. But why bite that hand that feeds you and end up unfed? You said dog, I didn't :laugh:

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      • B Bert delaVega

        Google has done a pretty good job of sticking to their core values. (dodging flames now, ow that one hurt a bit). Being "evil" seems to equate to being prosperous. It seems that ANY company that saturates the market becomes the target. Even here. We all make a living from Microsoft and their products/technology, but others beat them down. Why, when it's the hand that feeds you? If the internet consisted of just 3 areas, I would be content with: 1. Email 2. Google search 3. Microsoft .NET Oh and CodeProject of course. But I could find it with google. Nice rankings BTW :laugh:

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        Big Daddy Farang
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        Bert delaVega wrote:

        Why, when it's the hand that feeds you?

        I don't see Microsoft as the hand that feeds me. It seems more like the body off of which I feed, like a parasite I guess. :~

        BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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        • B Bert delaVega

          lol. But why bite that hand that feeds you and end up unfed? You said dog, I didn't :laugh:

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          Bert delaVega wrote:

          You said dog

          Yes, i did...

          Bert delaVega wrote:

          But why bite that hand that feeds you and end up unfed?

          The hand that feeds me feeds Microsoft, and while i do not bite it, Microsoft is less careful. Many hands feed Microsoft. They do not worry about going hungry, and so bite greedily through food and flesh. A mean enough dog gets what he wants, but no-one mourns his demise when it comes.

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          'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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            Bert delaVega wrote:

            You said dog

            Yes, i did...

            Bert delaVega wrote:

            But why bite that hand that feeds you and end up unfed?

            The hand that feeds me feeds Microsoft, and while i do not bite it, Microsoft is less careful. Many hands feed Microsoft. They do not worry about going hungry, and so bite greedily through food and flesh. A mean enough dog gets what he wants, but no-one mourns his demise when it comes.

            Citizen 20.1.01

            'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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            Bert delaVega
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            Every dog has it's day :laugh:

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Google started with the motto 'Do No Evil', and while their application of this policy may be in question by some, and while they are undoubtedly a monopoly when it comes to search (and getting close when it comes to online advertising) I have to say I'm happy they will not let the big dogs stick to their old tricks Google Wants Open Access Pledge from Verizon[^] "Verizon is not free to self-define the rule to exclude any and all Verizon devices," the filing reads. "The commission must ensure that Verizon understands that this license obligation means what it says: any apps, any devices." Excellent.

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              martin_hughes
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              What is it with Western Governments selling off stuff that should be in the hands of the people? I mean surely telecoms companies should be bidding for a licence to broadcast on a particular frequency (or range of), not actually owning the damned things?

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              • B Big Daddy Farang

                Bert delaVega wrote:

                Why, when it's the hand that feeds you?

                I don't see Microsoft as the hand that feeds me. It seems more like the body off of which I feed, like a parasite I guess. :~

                BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                Bert delaVega
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                Actually, that's a good point. MS isn't feeding, we're just feeding off of them. I hadn't really thought of it that way!

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                • M martin_hughes

                  What is it with Western Governments selling off stuff that should be in the hands of the people? I mean surely telecoms companies should be bidding for a licence to broadcast on a particular frequency (or range of), not actually owning the damned things?

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                  Oakman
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                  martin_hughes wrote:

                  What is it with Western Governments selling off stuff that should be in the hands of the people

                  There's a big difference between "the people" and "the government," even though the latter usually claims to be the former.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    martin_hughes wrote:

                    What is it with Western Governments selling off stuff that should be in the hands of the people

                    There's a big difference between "the people" and "the government," even though the latter usually claims to be the former.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    martin_hughes
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                    Just like the People's Republic of China... who'll probably end up buying everything we used to own! Must start brushing up on my Chinese. Is Mandarin or Cantonese the dominant lingo in Mother China? :)

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                    • M martin_hughes

                      Just like the People's Republic of China... who'll probably end up buying everything we used to own! Must start brushing up on my Chinese. Is Mandarin or Cantonese the dominant lingo in Mother China? :)

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                      martin_hughes wrote:

                      Is Mandarin or Cantonese the dominant lingo in Mother China?

                      I believe there are three languages spoken universally: cash; check; or money order. One phrase that does not seem to be understood, however, is "You have sold me poisoned goods."

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      • O Oakman

                        martin_hughes wrote:

                        Is Mandarin or Cantonese the dominant lingo in Mother China?

                        I believe there are three languages spoken universally: cash; check; or money order. One phrase that does not seem to be understood, however, is "You have sold me poisoned goods."

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        martin_hughes
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                        :D We best stop now before we get berated for bringing the SB into the Lounge...

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Google started with the motto 'Do No Evil', and while their application of this policy may be in question by some, and while they are undoubtedly a monopoly when it comes to search (and getting close when it comes to online advertising) I have to say I'm happy they will not let the big dogs stick to their old tricks Google Wants Open Access Pledge from Verizon[^] "Verizon is not free to self-define the rule to exclude any and all Verizon devices," the filing reads. "The commission must ensure that Verizon understands that this license obligation means what it says: any apps, any devices." Excellent.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          This statement has been puzzling me. Isn't it supposed to read: "Verizon is not free to self-define the rule to exclude any and all **non-**Verizon devices,"

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Google started with the motto 'Do No Evil', and while their application of this policy may be in question by some, and while they are undoubtedly a monopoly when it comes to search (and getting close when it comes to online advertising) I have to say I'm happy they will not let the big dogs stick to their old tricks Google Wants Open Access Pledge from Verizon[^] "Verizon is not free to self-define the rule to exclude any and all Verizon devices," the filing reads. "The commission must ensure that Verizon understands that this license obligation means what it says: any apps, any devices." Excellent.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I rather like the look of their public face[^]. Much more appealing than the public face of my company - me.

                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              I rather like the look of their public face[^]. Much more appealing than the public face of my company - me.

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                              My blog | My articles

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                              martin_hughes
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                              "She acts as a gatekeeper for their product release process, determining when or whether a particular Google product is ready to be released to users" Man her job is easy! "So, Marissa - what's the status of Google <whatever>?" "Gee, I guess it's still in beta!"

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                              • M martin_hughes

                                "She acts as a gatekeeper for their product release process, determining when or whether a particular Google product is ready to be released to users" Man her job is easy! "So, Marissa - what's the status of Google <whatever>?" "Gee, I guess it's still in beta!"

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                martin_hughes wrote:

                                "She acts as a gatekeeper for their product release process, determining when or whether a particular Google product is ready to be released to users" Man her job is easy! "So, Marissa - what's the status of Google ?" "Gee, I guess it's still in beta!"

                                :laugh: Much respect for her qualifications and experience though.

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                                • B Bert delaVega

                                  Google has done a pretty good job of sticking to their core values. (dodging flames now, ow that one hurt a bit). Being "evil" seems to equate to being prosperous. It seems that ANY company that saturates the market becomes the target. Even here. We all make a living from Microsoft and their products/technology, but others beat them down. Why, when it's the hand that feeds you? If the internet consisted of just 3 areas, I would be content with: 1. Email 2. Google search 3. Microsoft .NET Oh and CodeProject of course. But I could find it with google. Nice rankings BTW :laugh:

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Bert delaVega wrote:

                                  If the internet consisted of just 3 areas, I would be content with: 1. Email 2. Google search 3. Microsoft .NET

                                  Bit confused. What would you search if the net consisted of an email service and a Microsoft programming framework? You'd search your email and the MSDN docs?

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    I rather like the look of their public face[^]. Much more appealing than the public face of my company - me.

                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                                    My blog | My articles

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    My boss tried to pay me a compliment today. He said "You are like Marissa Mayer of Google..." What? I'm blonde and female? Eh? "No, no, she started in Google early on and is now a multi-millionaire!" Oh right. So I'm gonna be a multi-millionaire but I have to dye my hair and get a sex change? We wandered onto other topics at this point and pretended he'd never said it. Bosses can be... odd at times.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                    • M martin_hughes

                                      "She acts as a gatekeeper for their product release process, determining when or whether a particular Google product is ready to be released to users" Man her job is easy! "So, Marissa - what's the status of Google <whatever>?" "Gee, I guess it's still in beta!"

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      LOL In fairness she does have a tough job. She's kept thousands of eager nerds like us from sticking stuff on Google.com.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                      • P Paul Watson

                                        My boss tried to pay me a compliment today. He said "You are like Marissa Mayer of Google..." What? I'm blonde and female? Eh? "No, no, she started in Google early on and is now a multi-millionaire!" Oh right. So I'm gonna be a multi-millionaire but I have to dye my hair and get a sex change? We wandered onto other topics at this point and pretended he'd never said it. Bosses can be... odd at times.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        So I'm gonna be a multi-millionaire but I have to dye my hair and get a sex change?

                                        Seems fair - two reasons not to want to leave the house.

                                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Google started with the motto 'Do No Evil', and while their application of this policy may be in question by some, and while they are undoubtedly a monopoly when it comes to search (and getting close when it comes to online advertising) I have to say I'm happy they will not let the big dogs stick to their old tricks Google Wants Open Access Pledge from Verizon[^] "Verizon is not free to self-define the rule to exclude any and all Verizon devices," the filing reads. "The commission must ensure that Verizon understands that this license obligation means what it says: any apps, any devices." Excellent.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Who? Never heard of 'em.

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