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  • I Ilion

    *dumps some grains of salt on 73Zip* *watches as he shrivels up like a slug*

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    :rolleyes:

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      It was like the Top-10 list from David Letterman (only I couldn't come up with ten things). But since you want to make it a serious political discussion... First, I don't know the minds of the men that decided to develop/use nuclear weapons, and you certainly can' blame anyone other than those men for that action. If you really sit down and analyze it, whoever developed the tech first was bound to use it. I suppose it came down to a matter of either was us doing it, or the Japanese/Nazis doing it. Which would you have preferred? (And don't think for even half a second that the Nazis would have stopped with just two weapons.) Lastly, it looks like the whole world learned a very scary lesson that day, and nukes haven't been used since. The fact that the US is the first and only country to use nuclear weapons is irrelevant to this discussion. Now, presented with the admittedly skewed news media reports, and mixed in with a jaundiced view of military intelligence reports, here's what we think we know. 1) Iran is actively supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons, training, and (covertly) manpower. This is being done in an attempt to keep Iraq destabilized. 2) Iran is actively seeking nuclear technology. The goal of thousands of centrifuges is NOT for development of nuclear fuel for reactors, but is a blatant attempt to develop nuclear weapons. 3) Given Iran's disdain for all things U.S. and Israeli, you can probably understand the trepidation most of the rest of the world has expressed with regards to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It doesn't take a high-school graduate to figure Iran is up to no good with regards to its nuclear energy program. 4) I personally think the sanctions are pointless. It hasn't stopped Iran's search for nuclear weapon technology. 5) I personally think the US government isn't trying hard enough to avoid armed conflict with Iran. 6) I personally think that the Iraq war was a bad idea because the intel claiming the presence of "weapons of mass destruction" were too vague, and almost impossible to verify. 7) I personally think that the US should stop meddling in the affairs other countries (or at least be more selective about where they meddle and when). It's obvious to me that the Middle East - as a whole - is not interested in working out their regional differences. Y'all are acting like a bunch of third graders fighting over a swing on the playground. 8) VB sucks and I actually pity anyone forced to code in it. However, if they refuse to walk into the ligh

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      John, In general, I agree with Chris Maunder's comment in the lounge. Also, I am not here to debate with you any specific subject. I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity. There is enough trouble in the world. You are a lucky man you grew up where you did. Thanks for your consideration. Emad

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        Sadly I've learned more about South American history through Isabel Allende books than in school.

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        I learned more about it through the many South Americans (especially from Chile and Argentina) exiled here due to the repression in their countries. :sigh:

        leckey wrote:

        through Isabel Allende books

        Fair enough. You chose a great writer (City of Beasts is my favorite).

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          I learned more about it through the many South Americans (especially from Chile and Argentina) exiled here due to the repression in their countries. :sigh:

          leckey wrote:

          through Isabel Allende books

          Fair enough. You chose a great writer (City of Beasts is my favorite).

          Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela

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          When was that written? I have not read that one. I can only imagine how beautiful she writes in Spanish; it's go good in English. Someone does an awesome job of translating. (Not sure if she does it herself.) I don't know if I could pick a favorite though. For some reason I'm having trouble remembering a lot of the older titles.

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            When was that written? I have not read that one. I can only imagine how beautiful she writes in Spanish; it's go good in English. Someone does an awesome job of translating. (Not sure if she does it herself.) I don't know if I could pick a favorite though. For some reason I'm having trouble remembering a lot of the older titles.

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            leckey wrote:

            When was that written?

            It was published in 2002, and is part of a trilogy, being Kingdom of the Golden Dragon (2004) and Forest of the Pygmies (2004) the sequels.

            leckey wrote:

            I can only imagine how beautiful she writes in Spanish

            She actually does. Haven't read the English translations though, so I couldn't judge, but I imagine that they must be pretty good ones. Perhaps she does them themselves, she's living in California for a while (AFAIK), so she must master the English quite well, I presume.

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              John, In general, I agree with Chris Maunder's comment in the lounge. Also, I am not here to debate with you any specific subject. I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity. There is enough trouble in the world. You are a lucky man you grew up where you did. Thanks for your consideration. Emad

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              Emad A wrote:

              I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity.

              Sod. I want to be a hamster.

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              • F Fernando A Gomez F

                leckey wrote:

                When was that written?

                It was published in 2002, and is part of a trilogy, being Kingdom of the Golden Dragon (2004) and Forest of the Pygmies (2004) the sequels.

                leckey wrote:

                I can only imagine how beautiful she writes in Spanish

                She actually does. Haven't read the English translations though, so I couldn't judge, but I imagine that they must be pretty good ones. Perhaps she does them themselves, she's living in California for a while (AFAIK), so she must master the English quite well, I presume.

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                I haven't read that series yet. I like The House of the Spirits (although the movie was terrible), Daughter or Fortune, and Eva Luna. I was a little disappointed in Zoro. I checked her on Wikipedia to get the title I was forgetting--interesting that she falls under the same category as Gabriel Garcia Marquez (magical realism). I also like his work. Never really thought of them in the same way other than the Spanish background.

                Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                California for a while (AFAIK), so she must master the English quite well

                Depending on the part of CA, no English necessary.

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                  I haven't read that series yet. I like The House of the Spirits (although the movie was terrible), Daughter or Fortune, and Eva Luna. I was a little disappointed in Zoro. I checked her on Wikipedia to get the title I was forgetting--interesting that she falls under the same category as Gabriel Garcia Marquez (magical realism). I also like his work. Never really thought of them in the same way other than the Spanish background.

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  California for a while (AFAIK), so she must master the English quite well

                  Depending on the part of CA, no English necessary.

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                  leckey wrote:

                  she falls under the same category as Gabriel Garcia Marquez (magical realism).

                  Oh yes, almost every Latin American literature is magical realism (the most famous at least). It's my favorite movement, surpassing even the late romanticism. Yet I've been disappointed many times by it (say, The Tin Drum by Günter Grass). As for Gabo, I like some of his works (being "The colonel has no one who writes to him*" the best). By the way, you might enjoy Mario Vargas Llosa as well. Novels like Captain Pantoja and the Special Service found its characters in funny absurd situations (classic characteristic of the MR, but Mario takes it to another level). The thing is that the style it was written (without punctuations and separation between phrases and paragraphs) makes it a little tough to read. * Don't know if that's the translation given to the title in English: couldn't find a reference.

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                  • 7 73Zeppelin

                    leckey wrote:

                    Crap--I totally did not realize who I was posting too-I thought it was Ilidiot. My apologies; I'm going to redo the post.

                    Leave it, I don't care. I'm a complete bastard with 12 inch thick skin anyways. Besides, you are not among the select few that I enjoy giving a hard time to.

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                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    I'm a complete bastard with 12 inch thick skin anyways

                    LOL

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                      Emad A wrote:

                      I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity.

                      Sod. I want to be a hamster.

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      Sod. I want to be a hamster

                      Better luck in the next reincarnation.

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                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        I wouldn't call it gusto, and for the record, I invited him to move the discussion to the soapbox because he turned what I posted into a serious political discussion.

                        Well, whatever. It was more suited to this messageboard than the lounge. At least it's been kept civil and intelligent unlike the drivel that's been spilled here lately.

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                        Well, I wasn't mad at the guy - I cracked a joke and a lot of people became offended - even Hamed (once realizing I was playing with him) came down off the ledge. It surprises me that so many people (I'm taking about the regulars here) are still surprised and offended by anything I say. They know I insult as many people as I can in a given instance and whenever I see an opening, and they're equally aware that I don't mean anything by it. It's a little harmless fun at the expense of someone else. If someone wants to spar, they're more than welcome to step into the circle with me. This is really a lot of hullabaloo over nothing.

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                          we Indians

                          You are the only person who has ever shown that you are upset by the 'dot or feather' reference. Since I am Native American and find the term pretentious, and we had a large Indian from India population from school that is what I started to use to differentiate the two groups. Maybe I'd find it offensive if I didn't fall into one of the two categories. It's like making fun of myself. I guess I'll use "Native American" or "Indians from India or have descended from other individuals originating from the country of India." That suit your uptightness?

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                          Hmmm, I don't think I've ever poked fun at the red man. I think I'm gonna have to work up some material. However, Indians from India make easy, inviting, and frequent targets.

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                            Maximilien wrote:

                            That's why you (as well as others in Iran and China and other coutries in the world where they put people in prisons because of what they think and write ) need to go down in the street in MASSES and fight for your OWN freedom.

                            Mmm... Not sure if that works. I mean, there can be a revolution and civil war, but it does not assure you that the next ones, for the "sake of the republic", will actually restore freedom. Consider the English Civil war with Cromwell, or the French Revolution and Robespierre, or the Chinese Revolution and Mao Zedong. Violence generates violence. A revolution will only lead to further dead. After so many deads the people will only want peace, whether they are free or not. I've come to think of this many times in the past, as my country suffered exactly the same. Ten years ago, still in the dictatorship, we were always thinking on a revolution. But then again, we were able to make it to a (yet weak) democratic state without violence. Given those experiences, I think that it is a (rather frustrating) slow change. First, the people must be convinced (in the end, the law is for the people; if the people wants a theocratic state, well, there's nothing else to do). Second, the "oposition" must never use violence and go through the reasoning path. They must claim for stronger institutions. Small changes, one by one, until the current state cannot hold and change is needed. That's my opinion, at least.

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                            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                            Mmm... Not sure if that works. I mean, there can be a revolution and civil war, but it does not assure you that the next ones, for the "sake of the republic", will actually restore freedom.

                            I guess we got lucky in the U.S. because one of the biggest fears the framers faced was trading one tyrant 2500 miles away for a bunch of tyrants 20 miles away. There have been (and still are) constant attempts to render the Constitution moot. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and I don't associate with Americans that question the validity of any part of that document.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              John, In general, I agree with Chris Maunder's comment in the lounge. Also, I am not here to debate with you any specific subject. I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity. There is enough trouble in the world. You are a lucky man you grew up where you did. Thanks for your consideration. Emad

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                              Emad A wrote:

                              In general, I agree with Chris Maunder's comment in the lounge.

                              What - that it wasn't up to my usual quality? I can only work with the material I'm given.

                              Emad A wrote:

                              Also, I am not here to debate with you any specific subject.

                              I'm not debating anyone. I was simply education Hamed on how to take a joke.

                              Emad A wrote:

                              I just wanted to say that people wherever they are need to realize that they belong to one single identity. And that is humanity.

                              "Rubbish!!!" (from my new favorite commercial) Until you get the WHOLE world to agree to that statement, you're merely wasting the electrical impulses that created the thought in your brain. Humanity - as a group - is destroying this planet, but that's the ONLY thing the entire world seems to be doing at the same time and for the same reasons. There will never be world peace - never.

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                                If you weed out three or four people, SB might be interesting again.

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                                leckey wrote:

                                If you weed out three or four people, SB might be interesting again.

                                I read it as three out of four, and guess what :laugh:


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                                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                  "the guy from Iran started a thread" ? You are calling for a ban on Iranian CPians? I thought you, of all people, would know what it is to be discriminated against. Oh, at least we Indians are not alone in your book - we now have the Iranians for company.

                                  Cheers, Vikram.


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                                  "at least we Indians are not alone in your book - we now have the Iranians for company." and the rest of the world... Just another reason why the whole world hates America.

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                                    And I replied:

                                    HamedMosavi wrote:

                                    This makes me sad to have to answer what I haven't done and I hate. "Not all Iranian are terrorist" like "not all American are outlaw". What I don't understand is that while US was the first and only country which used nuclear bomb in the world, why Iranian people should suffer from the sanctions, just because maybe someone thinks Iran is seeking to find out how to create a nuclear missile? The other thing that I don't understand is your reason for these sentences when they bother me so much. I hate politics and terrorism. I'm here for science. I use C++ not VB. At least you could take a look at my articles.

                                    Now it's your turn ;)

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                                    Its because America is a country built on the idea of saying one thing but doing something completly different.

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                      we Indians

                                      You are the only person who has ever shown that you are upset by the 'dot or feather' reference. Since I am Native American and find the term pretentious, and we had a large Indian from India population from school that is what I started to use to differentiate the two groups. Maybe I'd find it offensive if I didn't fall into one of the two categories. It's like making fun of myself. I guess I'll use "Native American" or "Indians from India or have descended from other individuals originating from the country of India." That suit your uptightness?

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                                      leckey wrote:

                                      Since I am Native American and find the term pretentious

                                      How about Red Indian? That way you won't get confused with Brown Indians (like me) :-)

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        Hmmm, I don't think I've ever poked fun at the red man. I think I'm gonna have to work up some material. However, Indians from India make easy, inviting, and frequent targets.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Hmmm, I don't think I've ever poked fun at the red man. I think I'm gonna have to work up some material. However, Indians from India make easy, inviting, and frequent targets.

                                        What's interesting is that leckey says she's been using Dot Indians forever now. I always thought you coined the term and she picked it from you. You should have filed a patent on the term, just to ensure people credited you with having invented the term.

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                          I'm sorry if I didn't get the funny part which I think is hidden behind a lot of hard facts. For the political parts, I can't help. I'm afraid to answer. Most of what I see here is to say some Iranian or some Muslim did something bad. What does it proves? that I am bad? That all Iranian are bad? That American or non Muslims are all good? Should I or you answer for what the government are doing? If they are not wise enough to be friends, shouldn't I and you be? You know John, the difference between me and you starts from where on the earth I was born and where you did. Here's why I am a bit angry when I here such things rather than taking it funny: Maybe out of luck or maybe for some good reasons that I don't know, you've been born in US. What would you do if you where in Iran? Put yourself in my shoes. I'm baned from buying the stuff the whole world creates, I am baned from even going into some websites that find out where's my IP from, I am baned to work for a company outside of this country, etc. Wouldn't you be nervous in this situation? I'm not even talking about what's going on inside. These are an everyday experience for us. I'm just trying to ignore them, but when someone puts his finger exactly on the pain, I get angry. About the nuclear bomb, I'm sorry. As I stated in another post, I was too angry and not thinking enough.

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                                          Wow, good post there, Hamed :-)

                                          Regards, Nish


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