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  • P parths

    You might also like Phantoms in the Brain[^] then.

    "It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew I was on to something." -Ornette Coleman "Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently." -Anon.

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    Thank you - that is now in my cart.

    Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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      The brain that changes itself may well be the best book I have ever read. It's just plain amazing. I am seriously wondering about if I'd be able to bluff my way into uni to study some of this stuff. It's about brain plasticity and ways that the brain can be forced to reprogram itself, allowing, for example, stroke patients to move again.

      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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      I've just recently read (Scientific American, I believe) about an operation that splits the brain into two halves and removes one. I'd never heard of such a thing, but it routine for certain seizure related ailments. Apparently, and especially in kids, the remaining half can almost completely take over the functions formerly preformed by the missing half. Amazing, if somewhat gruesome. :omg:

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        brain plasticity

        I read about this stuff in some book by Oliver Sacks[^]. He is a neurologist that writes about neurological clinical cases. The movie "Awakenings" is based on a real event in his life: he discovered a drug that enable people leaving in non-conscious state to be conscious again. Anyway, the book I read talked about children that had accidents that damaged their brains but grew up to have a very normal life. It seems that the thing can't happen to grown ups. As if this plasticity happened just during child growth. My father is a doctor and I think that neurology is one of 3 most interesting things to study in biology (along with evolution and genetics). What is exactly the name of the book you're reading. I want to take a look at it.


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        I think we should try direct to the brain reprogramming with VB. :-D

        "I'm not altogether all together."

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          brain plasticity

          I read about this stuff in some book by Oliver Sacks[^]. He is a neurologist that writes about neurological clinical cases. The movie "Awakenings" is based on a real event in his life: he discovered a drug that enable people leaving in non-conscious state to be conscious again. Anyway, the book I read talked about children that had accidents that damaged their brains but grew up to have a very normal life. It seems that the thing can't happen to grown ups. As if this plasticity happened just during child growth. My father is a doctor and I think that neurology is one of 3 most interesting things to study in biology (along with evolution and genetics). What is exactly the name of the book you're reading. I want to take a look at it.


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          Diego Moita wrote:

          It seems that the thing can't happen to grown ups.

          Not from what I've seen on the subject, quite the opposite, the brain retains it's "plasticity" throughout a persons entire life.


          "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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            The brain that changes itself may well be the best book I have ever read. It's just plain amazing. I am seriously wondering about if I'd be able to bluff my way into uni to study some of this stuff. It's about brain plasticity and ways that the brain can be forced to reprogram itself, allowing, for example, stroke patients to move again.

            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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            I saw a piece on a science show about this some time in the last year. Blind people were using cameras mounted on glasses and a little pad with bumps in an array of physical pixels that would mirror the image being seen. The blind person would put it on their tongue and with very little training would be able to "see" with it to the point where the blind guy was walking around an obstacle course and throwing balls into a bin from a distance. The plasticity part was that the brain areas used for vision in a sighted person were fully active using the tongue device and were doing the processing work to interpret the images formed just as they would with eyes as input. In fact they said it could be any part of the body but the tongue is very sensitive and can support a lot of pixels in a small space.


            "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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              I've just recently read (Scientific American, I believe) about an operation that splits the brain into two halves and removes one. I'd never heard of such a thing, but it routine for certain seizure related ailments. Apparently, and especially in kids, the remaining half can almost completely take over the functions formerly preformed by the missing half. Amazing, if somewhat gruesome. :omg:

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              Last chapter of the book was about a girl who was born with only a right hemisphere, and how her brain compensated.

              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                I saw a piece on a science show about this some time in the last year. Blind people were using cameras mounted on glasses and a little pad with bumps in an array of physical pixels that would mirror the image being seen. The blind person would put it on their tongue and with very little training would be able to "see" with it to the point where the blind guy was walking around an obstacle course and throwing balls into a bin from a distance. The plasticity part was that the brain areas used for vision in a sighted person were fully active using the tongue device and were doing the processing work to interpret the images formed just as they would with eyes as input. In fact they said it could be any part of the body but the tongue is very sensitive and can support a lot of pixels in a small space.


                "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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                That was the first chapter of this book. How interesting. They also had a woman with no sense of balance, they put something on her tongue that told her how she was leaning. The amazing thing was, after a while, her brain resolved itself, and she could balance WITHOUT the helmet. She had had this problem for years.

                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  The brain that changes itself may well be the best book I have ever read. It's just plain amazing. I am seriously wondering about if I'd be able to bluff my way into uni to study some of this stuff. It's about brain plasticity and ways that the brain can be forced to reprogram itself, allowing, for example, stroke patients to move again.

                  Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  Saw the show on PBS (public broadcasting system). It was interesting about the stroke victum who was paralyzed but continuously forced himself to move and crawl around the house. In the show he eventually could walk and move normally. When he died and they did an autopsy I think they said 40% of his brain had died in the stroke. Amazing. What is scary though, is bad habits and behaviours can also become part of your brain wiring if you continously rehearse these "bad" thought patterns.

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                    That was the first chapter of this book. How interesting. They also had a woman with no sense of balance, they put something on her tongue that told her how she was leaning. The amazing thing was, after a while, her brain resolved itself, and she could balance WITHOUT the helmet. She had had this problem for years.

                    Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                    Yeah, that woman was on there as well, she started out with a device then eventually didn't need it any more. I didn't really understand the process but imagined that her brain had used the help of the device to devise a new way to accomplish the same functionality. It seems brains are ripe for performing certain functions and will find any way to accomplish it given half a chance. I too find brain plasticity utterly fascinating. I also really like that it supports the nurture side of the nature vs nurture debate because I've always been a nurturist.


                    "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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                      I think we should try direct to the brain reprogramming with VB. :-D

                      "I'm not altogether all together."

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                      I think we should try direct to the brain reprogramming with VB.

                      Yeah... that's just what we need... Microsoft to not just own half our lives, but actually our entire minds as well! I think I'd trust the Linux community on that one just a wee bit more :P

                      "Silently laughing at silly people is much more satisfying in the long run than rolling around with them in a dusty street, trying to knock out all their teeth. If nothing else, it's better on the clothes." - Belgarath (David Eddings)

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                        I've just recently read (Scientific American, I believe) about an operation that splits the brain into two halves and removes one. I'd never heard of such a thing, but it routine for certain seizure related ailments. Apparently, and especially in kids, the remaining half can almost completely take over the functions formerly preformed by the missing half. Amazing, if somewhat gruesome. :omg:

                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                        I actually saw a news story at least 8 years ago of a girl that had to have half of her brain removed, because of a rare disease. She survived the surgery, and the other half of her brain had to take over control of the rest of her body. They said she was expected to eventually regain all motor functions, but the link below reveals otherwise. Her brain did take over a fair amount of the other side of the body's functions, though. It was really a quite interesting story. Here's an update from 2005 on that story[^].

                        "Silently laughing at silly people is much more satisfying in the long run than rolling around with them in a dusty street, trying to knock out all their teeth. If nothing else, it's better on the clothes." - Belgarath (David Eddings)

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                          I think we should try direct to the brain reprogramming with VB.

                          Yeah... that's just what we need... Microsoft to not just own half our lives, but actually our entire minds as well! I think I'd trust the Linux community on that one just a wee bit more :P

                          "Silently laughing at silly people is much more satisfying in the long run than rolling around with them in a dusty street, trying to knock out all their teeth. If nothing else, it's better on the clothes." - Belgarath (David Eddings)

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                          nalorin wrote:

                          Microsoft to not just own half our lives, but actually our entire minds as well!

                          good point :(

                          nalorin wrote:

                          I think I'd trust the Linux community on that one just a wee bit more

                          Hey I'm easy, Linux (aka Linus, toss in Charlie Brown) is okay with me. :-D

                          "I'm not altogether all together."

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                            nalorin wrote:

                            Microsoft to not just own half our lives, but actually our entire minds as well!

                            good point :(

                            nalorin wrote:

                            I think I'd trust the Linux community on that one just a wee bit more

                            Hey I'm easy, Linux (aka Linus, toss in Charlie Brown) is okay with me. :-D

                            "I'm not altogether all together."

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                            Do you really want to risk them changing the license behind your back such that every thought you ever made (past/present/future) becomes GPL???

                            You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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