Conclusions after Mozilla thread :-D
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;P :-D I agree, bashing some product, give a long list of replies, but nobody reply to real provocation from that post: Don Miguel wrote: One thought, finally: about that "navigation tab"s - nice feature, but... let be serious: in few hours, a skilled COM developer could develop a explorer band for IE, which could emulate this tab navigation... and much more, if he want Yeah, nobody interested???
Don Miguel wrote: Yeah, nobody interested??? Go to Tucows, go to the Browser Add On section. There is about ten different applications which do this. All of them work fine, but not as slickly as having it integrated right into the app like Mozilla does. Believe me, I tried them all. Mozilla rules! Doyle rules! *crushes beer can against forehead* regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Don Miguel wrote: Yeah, nobody interested??? Go to Tucows, go to the Browser Add On section. There is about ten different applications which do this. All of them work fine, but not as slickly as having it integrated right into the app like Mozilla does. Believe me, I tried them all. Mozilla rules! Doyle rules! *crushes beer can against forehead* regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: . Believe me, I tried them all. You must be some kind of tester for them...;) ;) Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. :laugh:
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Paul Watson wrote: . Believe me, I tried them all. You must be some kind of tester for them...;) ;) Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. :laugh:
I don't know what they hell they are, but I WANT ONE!!!! Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Paul Watson wrote: . Believe me, I tried them all. You must be some kind of tester for them...;) ;) Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. :laugh:
Don Miguel wrote: Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs What is so useful about navigation tabs? I don't even use bookmarks (sorry, favorites). Every "feature" I have seen added to web browsers lately is just more crap I don't want. I only upgrade because of the updates to the internals of the browser. Mozilla and IE are both great browsers, but it isn't because of the "browsing enhancements".
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Paul Watson wrote: . Believe me, I tried them all. You must be some kind of tester for them...;) ;) Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. :laugh:
Don Miguel wrote: Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Doing this severely reduces your outlook on products. For instance if you hadn't tried Mozilla with the Tab browser would you have missed it? Open source is the collaboration of a bunch of people who share code. This has the bad part of often bloated and duplicate code. However it also gives you the chance to get your idea out in the open. Think how long it would take to get tabs implemnted in IE if Mozilla hadn't done it first. With open source you get some of the latest ideas if not always implemented that great. Jared jparsons@jparsons.org www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte477n
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Don Miguel wrote: Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs What is so useful about navigation tabs? I don't even use bookmarks (sorry, favorites). Every "feature" I have seen added to web browsers lately is just more crap I don't want. I only upgrade because of the updates to the internals of the browser. Mozilla and IE are both great browsers, but it isn't because of the "browsing enhancements".
Ryan Johnston wrote: I don't even use bookmarks (sorry, favorites). You don't use favourites. *repeats that a few times to make sure I read right and understand* Wow. How do you keep track of good sites, articles you still have to read and those damned hard to remember pron site urls? Ryan Johnston wrote: What is so useful about navigation tabs? What is so useful about having multiple windows? Same answer, only tabs are easier to switch between and you can group tabs when you are researching a particular topic. Just try grouping windows in XP X| regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Ryan Johnston wrote: I don't even use bookmarks (sorry, favorites). You don't use favourites. *repeats that a few times to make sure I read right and understand* Wow. How do you keep track of good sites, articles you still have to read and those damned hard to remember pron site urls? Ryan Johnston wrote: What is so useful about navigation tabs? What is so useful about having multiple windows? Same answer, only tabs are easier to switch between and you can group tabs when you are researching a particular topic. Just try grouping windows in XP X| regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: How do you keep track of good sites In my head (there aren't very many good sites after all). I use so many different computers that it isn't worth my while to set up bookmarks on each one. Besides, there are way too many sites that make it difficult to bookmark their interior pages (where the actual content is).
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;P :-D I agree, bashing some product, give a long list of replies, but nobody reply to real provocation from that post: Don Miguel wrote: One thought, finally: about that "navigation tab"s - nice feature, but... let be serious: in few hours, a skilled COM developer could develop a explorer band for IE, which could emulate this tab navigation... and much more, if he want Yeah, nobody interested???
It has already been done: NetCaptor Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.
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Ryan Johnston wrote: I don't even use bookmarks (sorry, favorites). You don't use favourites. *repeats that a few times to make sure I read right and understand* Wow. How do you keep track of good sites, articles you still have to read and those damned hard to remember pron site urls? Ryan Johnston wrote: What is so useful about navigation tabs? What is so useful about having multiple windows? Same answer, only tabs are easier to switch between and you can group tabs when you are researching a particular topic. Just try grouping windows in XP X| regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
I haven't actually tried Mozilla 1.0 yet. I just looked and saw what navigation tabs are, and they weren't in the last version of Mozilla I used. I thought you guys were talking about the sidebars (which I think are a waste of space). Navigation tabs actually look pretty cool.
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Paul Watson wrote: . Believe me, I tried them all. You must be some kind of tester for them...;) ;) Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. :laugh:
Don Miguel wrote: Why the hell MS doesn't think to that navigation tabs? They really loose contact with the user needs. Surely the task bar is already a set of navigation tabs? Or are we talking about something different? Michael :-) Death is the price we pay for progress, you know - The Doctor
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Don Miguel wrote: Personally I doesn't install programs which doesn't come from MS, with one exception, Acrobat Reader. Doing this severely reduces your outlook on products. For instance if you hadn't tried Mozilla with the Tab browser would you have missed it? Open source is the collaboration of a bunch of people who share code. This has the bad part of often bloated and duplicate code. However it also gives you the chance to get your idea out in the open. Think how long it would take to get tabs implemnted in IE if Mozilla hadn't done it first. With open source you get some of the latest ideas if not always implemented that great. Jared jparsons@jparsons.org www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte477n
Mozilla did it second, but people think they were first because the users are a bit more vocal than Opera users.:-)
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Mozilla did it second, but people think they were first because the users are a bit more vocal than Opera users.:-)
I was going to bring Opera up, but you already have. :) I think I'll try Mozilla out and see how it compares to Opera. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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It has already been done: NetCaptor Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.
Daniel Turini wrote: NetCaptor Nice, thanks, I doesn't know about this.