CP in 2030...
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
As we've seen in various films, predicting that far into the future is really difficult. I can definately see voice chat taking off in the next 10 or so years. I can also see the web still going strong, but much richer with multimedia content, various plugins, etc. 30 years, who am I kidding! My prediction would last 10 years at the most. This prediction stuff is really difficult. It's too easy to go overboard and say "yeah, computers will read your thoughs and put them on the screen, and holograms will read you the news". I hope somebody invents a real-life Connie (the UK AOL woman) for sexual purposes. Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
I'd like to see more of a virtual chat like MSN used to do (or maybe still does b/c I haven't used it in a while) with avatars and all. You'd be in a 3d room walking around, etc. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "..." - Paul Watson 07-17
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
John Fisher wrote: OS qualities? as long as its not windows' quality of crashing. ;P
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
Woo Hoo! I found a web server that is a time portal into the future. Just type in the following url: (just change the year and site variables for any other time or site) http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com p.s. Give it a few seconds to calculate the changes -- Hook? check. Line? check. Sinker? check.
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
I'm just waiting for all the functionality of CP to be available as a web service. :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
in 2030, CP will be all about fixing the Y2.038K bug. -c
To explain Donald Knuth's relevance to computing is like explaining Paul's relevance to the Catholic Church. He isn't God, he isn't the Son of God, but he was sent by God to explain God to the masses.
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
2030 eh, heck I can't even imagine what it'll be like in a year's time. Chris and the rest of the volunteers have done such great work so far. My hopes for the next couple of years. Some kind of web-service to allow forum browsing via something a little better than a web-browser. A way to post little snippits of code rather than full blown articles (eh Paul, how's it going). Of course a version control system for the source code would be nice, so that we can all contribute to other's code without having to upload new zip files and articles. I hope to see CP rewritten with .NET too, then perhaps new features could be added by the rest of us without adding to Chris's workload. Michael :-) Death is the price we pay for progress, you know - The Doctor
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Woo Hoo! I found a web server that is a time portal into the future. Just type in the following url: (just change the year and site variables for any other time or site) http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com p.s. Give it a few seconds to calculate the changes -- Hook? check. Line? check. Sinker? check.
Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
Doesn't this mean that in 28-30 years from now or kids will actually be surfing to CodeProject? Nick Parker
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Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
Before you click on the link you have to install the new time warp plug-in for IE (Sorry, time warp isn't available in other browsers yet). You can get it here. Simon Walton wrote: You sure the link is correct? Certainly
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Tom Welch wrote: _http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com_ time.portal.web is down here. You sure the link is correct? Simon "This is an equal opportunities airline. The pilot is blind." Sonork ID 100.10024
Maybe it worked perfectly and CP will be off the air by 2030 :-D not that I actually believe that David http://www.dundas.com
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
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Woo Hoo! I found a web server that is a time portal into the future. Just type in the following url: (just change the year and site variables for any other time or site) http://time.portal.web/default.asp?year=2030&site=www.codeproject.com p.s. Give it a few seconds to calculate the changes -- Hook? check. Line? check. Sinker? check.
Wow, that looks really cool. Thanks for the link. What is really scary is when you put in site=www.microsoft.com and it forwards you to www.earth.gov.
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Before you click on the link you have to install the new time warp plug-in for IE (Sorry, time warp isn't available in other browsers yet). You can get it here. Simon Walton wrote: You sure the link is correct? Certainly
Ryan Johnston wrote: You can get it here. Yow! I want this hat!
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Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
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Ryan Johnston wrote: You can get it here. Yow! I want this hat!
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
That is a nice hat.
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2030 eh, heck I can't even imagine what it'll be like in a year's time. Chris and the rest of the volunteers have done such great work so far. My hopes for the next couple of years. Some kind of web-service to allow forum browsing via something a little better than a web-browser. A way to post little snippits of code rather than full blown articles (eh Paul, how's it going). Of course a version control system for the source code would be nice, so that we can all contribute to other's code without having to upload new zip files and articles. I hope to see CP rewritten with .NET too, then perhaps new features could be added by the rest of us without adding to Chris's workload. Michael :-) Death is the price we pay for progress, you know - The Doctor
This was the sort of thing I was thinking about. If CP opens up so that we have non-browser client software connecting to it and it changes even more so that .NET extensions of almost any kind can be added by appropriately priviledged CP citizens, we'll be opening the door pretty wide for all kinds of future additions (plugins?). Online extreme programming cooperative coding sessions? Services something like SourceForge? Maybe some advanced stuff like online cooperative xp coding sessions? Sometimes I just like to think about things that I'll probably never get a chance to do... John
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Doesn't this mean that in 28-30 years from now or kids will actually be surfing to CodeProject? Nick Parker
Hmmm... And will the be on 3D virtual surf boards when they surf the net then? ;P
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BAH! In 2030 CP won't even exist. Heck, the world wide web probably won't exist. This whole internet thingy is just a fad.
Mike Mullikin - I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill
Mike Mullikin wrote: This whole internet thingy is just a fad. LOL John
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An intriguing idea just went for a romp through my brain, and I thought we could all enjoy a little speculation. We developers are an interesting bunch of people who just can't seem to quit improving software that we both like and have some control over. Being the cool place that it is, CP has been improving based on work and suggestions by CP citizens (not to put down all of Chris' work in the slightest). So, if this pattern of expansion continues (adding an SDK eventually?), where do you think CP will end up? 28 years is a long time in computerland. Will CP start to ingest OS qualities? If so, why and which ones? What sort of new features is CP likely to get? VR? Face-to-faced lounge chats? AI to answer the perpetual programming questions? John
Predicting the future is always a bit tricky (where's my personal jetpack that would fly me to work everday without the hassle of gridlocked traffic?) I think one obvious upgrade would be that an AI would quickly match people with the solution to their programming question. If for example, I wanted to know why my control wasn't repainting, the AI would draw from it's database of answers (that other people have posted) and reply that I need to call "RedrawWindow()". It's not that the AI would know the answer on its own, but could quickly match users with an answer in its database of already existing answers. The same would be true of the controls - e.g. "I need a control that acts like a dropdown window, but it..." Maybe all this could be done with voice commands, the AI would be interactive and ask me questions to narrow the search. Oh, and there would be no more programming questions in the lounge that begin with "I posted this in the programming forum, but no one could answer my question. I know I'm not supposed to post here, but..." I'm really not sure that VR or face-to-face lounge chats would add much. It's cool in a gee-whiz kind of way, but does it add much? I think programming will be quite a bit different. I think object oriented programming will still be around, but objects will be more powerful, modular, and have fewer bugs (perhaps they will be tested by AIs). But the process of defining objects will be quite a lot different than today. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips