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Are eye tracking mouse replacements out yet or what?

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    Togakangaroo
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    Has anyone seen any eye-tracking mouse replacement softwawre/hardware on the market? I ctrl+w close the wrong tab all the time just because I forgot to move my mouse to focus the correct window. I would love some software that could integrate with a webcam to track my eye movement so that I could just press a keycombo on the keybaord and have it give focus to whatever window I'm looking at. Has anyone heard of anything like this or knows what it is that I'm missing that is so difficult about creating such software?

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      Has anyone seen any eye-tracking mouse replacement softwawre/hardware on the market? I ctrl+w close the wrong tab all the time just because I forgot to move my mouse to focus the correct window. I would love some software that could integrate with a webcam to track my eye movement so that I could just press a keycombo on the keybaord and have it give focus to whatever window I'm looking at. Has anyone heard of anything like this or knows what it is that I'm missing that is so difficult about creating such software?

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      John M Drescher
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      Doubtful, I have worked with $40K US Eye tracking units ( head mounted and stationary cameras) and at this price I find that they could possibly be work (mouse cursor will jump all over the place unless restricted movement) for this task if they made the setup more user friendly. Also on the problem with restricted movement one needs to stop the feedback effect. I mean your eyes will tend to follow the mouse cursor which is guided with your eyes. I know all of this because I briefly worked on a research project that had an eye controlled magnify box that magnified what your eye was looking at.

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      • T Togakangaroo

        Has anyone seen any eye-tracking mouse replacement softwawre/hardware on the market? I ctrl+w close the wrong tab all the time just because I forgot to move my mouse to focus the correct window. I would love some software that could integrate with a webcam to track my eye movement so that I could just press a keycombo on the keybaord and have it give focus to whatever window I'm looking at. Has anyone heard of anything like this or knows what it is that I'm missing that is so difficult about creating such software?

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        MoustafaS
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        I've seen it as a graduation project in my college, it was really nice, but I think it's not out for download or I haven't seen it on the internet.


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          Has anyone seen any eye-tracking mouse replacement softwawre/hardware on the market? I ctrl+w close the wrong tab all the time just because I forgot to move my mouse to focus the correct window. I would love some software that could integrate with a webcam to track my eye movement so that I could just press a keycombo on the keybaord and have it give focus to whatever window I'm looking at. Has anyone heard of anything like this or knows what it is that I'm missing that is so difficult about creating such software?

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          Ed Poore
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          The only one I've heard of recently was actually on a gaming system specifically designed to run Crysis[^] where they had a four 30" screen setup (I think it was four of the latest nVidia graphics cards) and the gamer wore a headset thing so that when he looked at one of the other screens the character in the game turned as well. But I don't think it was a full eye-tracking thing, rather a head turning one.


          I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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            The only one I've heard of recently was actually on a gaming system specifically designed to run Crysis[^] where they had a four 30" screen setup (I think it was four of the latest nVidia graphics cards) and the gamer wore a headset thing so that when he looked at one of the other screens the character in the game turned as well. But I don't think it was a full eye-tracking thing, rather a head turning one.


            I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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            Togakangaroo
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            Perhaps its just me, but that's really the extent of what I would like, just the ability to switch applications by looking and maybe tapping a keyboard key to avoid Alt+tab ing through 15 diffrent windows. I guess it would nice to be able to focus on the google search just by looking at it too or open file menus but that's secondary. It's a shame theres nothing like this out (a google search turned up only assistance software for the disabled). Anyone up for a crazy likely-to-fail open source effort?

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            • T Togakangaroo

              Perhaps its just me, but that's really the extent of what I would like, just the ability to switch applications by looking and maybe tapping a keyboard key to avoid Alt+tab ing through 15 diffrent windows. I guess it would nice to be able to focus on the google search just by looking at it too or open file menus but that's secondary. It's a shame theres nothing like this out (a google search turned up only assistance software for the disabled). Anyone up for a crazy likely-to-fail open source effort?

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              Trouble is you've got to have the hardware to back it up.


              I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                Perhaps its just me, but that's really the extent of what I would like, just the ability to switch applications by looking and maybe tapping a keyboard key to avoid Alt+tab ing through 15 diffrent windows. I guess it would nice to be able to focus on the google search just by looking at it too or open file menus but that's secondary. It's a shame theres nothing like this out (a google search turned up only assistance software for the disabled). Anyone up for a crazy likely-to-fail open source effort?

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                Dan Neely
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                Togakangaroo wrote:

                Anyone up for a crazy likely-to-fail open source effort?

                Are you willing to front us the needed hardware to participate?

                You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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                  Has anyone seen any eye-tracking mouse replacement softwawre/hardware on the market? I ctrl+w close the wrong tab all the time just because I forgot to move my mouse to focus the correct window. I would love some software that could integrate with a webcam to track my eye movement so that I could just press a keycombo on the keybaord and have it give focus to whatever window I'm looking at. Has anyone heard of anything like this or knows what it is that I'm missing that is so difficult about creating such software?

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                  Simon Capewell
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                  How about using Firefox's Ctrl+Shift+T reopen closed tab feature?

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                    How about using Firefox's Ctrl+Shift+T reopen closed tab feature?

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                    Sure if you're talking firefox and not editpad pro, toad, radmin, visual studio, etc. Just hypothetically, what kind of hardware do you guys really think would be needed? I'd imagine a nice webcam would do the trick as far as simple stuff is concerned. I did my masters with image processing and - though I know very little about eye movements - I know that it should be not that hard to seperate the pupil, iris, and eyeball even on a shitty webcam. Since all we're really talking about is what part of the screen are you looking at, maybe a simple neural net on the angles of each would do the trick.

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                      Sure if you're talking firefox and not editpad pro, toad, radmin, visual studio, etc. Just hypothetically, what kind of hardware do you guys really think would be needed? I'd imagine a nice webcam would do the trick as far as simple stuff is concerned. I did my masters with image processing and - though I know very little about eye movements - I know that it should be not that hard to seperate the pupil, iris, and eyeball even on a shitty webcam. Since all we're really talking about is what part of the screen are you looking at, maybe a simple neural net on the angles of each would do the trick.

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                      John M Drescher
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                      On top of getting good optics there are many problems to solve. One is if the eye is not in a fixed position (obviously impossible) with respect to the screen the angles need to be recalculated to determine where the eye is looking. To do this the $40K US unit I used had a head mounted unit that used a magnetic field and sensor to get a 3 dimensional position of the eye in real time. For processing it used a DSP (digital signal processor) to do the calculations.

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                        On top of getting good optics there are many problems to solve. One is if the eye is not in a fixed position (obviously impossible) with respect to the screen the angles need to be recalculated to determine where the eye is looking. To do this the $40K US unit I used had a head mounted unit that used a magnetic field and sensor to get a 3 dimensional position of the eye in real time. For processing it used a DSP (digital signal processor) to do the calculations.

                        John

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                        RobZeilinga98
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                        I might be off track here but look @ http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/vector.htm this device monitors your head position and changes the view aspect as you turn your head

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                          I might be off track here but look @ http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/vector.htm this device monitors your head position and changes the view aspect as you turn your head

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                          John M Drescher
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                          That would be a lot simpler than trying to calculate what your eye is focused on..

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