Where is best place to advertise / poach senior NET/LINQ/WPF deves ?
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Where is the best place... (to post or poach!) Headhunters have all dried up - generic ads get small number of learners... We're looking for a serious top-gun dev to work on our NET team. ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== Senior with proven C# / NET skills and team leadership strengths Able to carry subprojects from concept to customer We are using all VS2008 latest tools and libraries - now... WPF/ WCF / SL2.0 / LINQ / WWF / WMF on media based applications. Team of five: with three full-time devs - results oriented. International travel opportunities for trade shows & customer commissioning needs. Good packages for the right people.... ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== But where do we look !?? there are no-bods out there with top-end skills. This position is avaialble immediately. (in Melbourne, Australia) thanks for any ideas or leads
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Where is the best place... (to post or poach!) Headhunters have all dried up - generic ads get small number of learners... We're looking for a serious top-gun dev to work on our NET team. ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== Senior with proven C# / NET skills and team leadership strengths Able to carry subprojects from concept to customer We are using all VS2008 latest tools and libraries - now... WPF/ WCF / SL2.0 / LINQ / WWF / WMF on media based applications. Team of five: with three full-time devs - results oriented. International travel opportunities for trade shows & customer commissioning needs. Good packages for the right people.... ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== But where do we look !?? there are no-bods out there with top-end skills. This position is avaialble immediately. (in Melbourne, Australia) thanks for any ideas or leads
mcoop wrote:
But where do we look !??
Not in this forum. It is for asking technical questions.
mcoop wrote:
there are no-bods out there with top-end skills.
As the old saying goes: Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you are probably right. In other words, if you think there is nobody out there then you are probably right. You have already concluded there is no one with the right skill set for you already. I would have to say that given the range of technologies (some of which are still at beta stage) then finding people will be very hard. I think you have to accept that you will have to train up whoever you hire. You could try looking up Microsoft MVPs (there is a list on the Microsoft website) as they are most likely to be candidates. However, you don't mention anything about what the compesation package is, other than "good packages for the right people". That tells me nothing. What you think is a good package isn't necessarily what another thinks is a good package. I've turned down jobs because, from my perspective, a good package includes the working environment not just the amount of money taken home at the end of the month.
mcoop wrote:
We're looking for a serious top-gun dev to work on our NET team.
And anyway what is a "top-gun" developer? Are you looking for "heroes"? Those guys don't generally work out very well and their code is a maintenance nightmare.
mcoop wrote:
Able to carry subprojects from concept to customer
What exactly is a "subproject"? It doesn't sound very exciting to me. I doubt it will bring in many top-notch developers.
mcoop wrote:
results oriented
This is such a clichéd term it no longer means anything and could be putting people off. In short, I think you may have to work on your pitch in order to draw in the right people. What you've described is all one way, and that is what YOU get out of the deal. There is nothing of substance to entice people to want to work for you. Out of curiosity, what is your staff turnover like?
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mcoop wrote:
But where do we look !??
Not in this forum. It is for asking technical questions.
mcoop wrote:
there are no-bods out there with top-end skills.
As the old saying goes: Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you are probably right. In other words, if you think there is nobody out there then you are probably right. You have already concluded there is no one with the right skill set for you already. I would have to say that given the range of technologies (some of which are still at beta stage) then finding people will be very hard. I think you have to accept that you will have to train up whoever you hire. You could try looking up Microsoft MVPs (there is a list on the Microsoft website) as they are most likely to be candidates. However, you don't mention anything about what the compesation package is, other than "good packages for the right people". That tells me nothing. What you think is a good package isn't necessarily what another thinks is a good package. I've turned down jobs because, from my perspective, a good package includes the working environment not just the amount of money taken home at the end of the month.
mcoop wrote:
We're looking for a serious top-gun dev to work on our NET team.
And anyway what is a "top-gun" developer? Are you looking for "heroes"? Those guys don't generally work out very well and their code is a maintenance nightmare.
mcoop wrote:
Able to carry subprojects from concept to customer
What exactly is a "subproject"? It doesn't sound very exciting to me. I doubt it will bring in many top-notch developers.
mcoop wrote:
results oriented
This is such a clichéd term it no longer means anything and could be putting people off. In short, I think you may have to work on your pitch in order to draw in the right people. What you've described is all one way, and that is what YOU get out of the deal. There is nothing of substance to entice people to want to work for you. Out of curiosity, what is your staff turnover like?
Recent blog posts: * Introduction to LINQ to XML (Part 1) -
All good points raised - thanks for the feedback - The subprojects are separate applications and assemblies that combine to form a complex distributed rich-media processing package across WAN/VPN in most cases. The back-end is service based multiple video encoders and data scavengers, the middleware is application specific IIS/ASP.net, while clients are moving to Impressions/Silverlight. we acknowledge that some of the technoogies are very new - and happily support training and learn-in periods. Almost all our developed components are 'live' with real-time data sources and client operations. If you have the balls to take on all the elements at once as a 'project' great! We would really like to find you - but there aren't many of you out there, and we'd need to see you strut your stuff... The continuous tweaking to our evolving and varying customer requirements (from South Africa to Canada and all between) and moving industry targets keep us on our toes. Notwithstanding the software team leader is extremely capable in ALL) things NET - so he's a valubale ally to us and any new-hires that come on board. Heroes don't last as you noted - we dropped one last week - hence looking for someone to pick up the slack. We will look at coding style and documentation first - to see if the basics are there that can be built upon... of course the right people will sail through this without a blink - as they already know how hard it is to revisit badly written code. Also the need to deal with customers on support issues is extremely important - we've had guys in the past that tell the customer 'you must be doing something wrong' in writing... that stops real fast! Remuneration for the right people is always negotiable - and kicks up to well over $100K for the people that can listen, understand, assimilate, share, and deliver. Web shop donkeys need not apply. For a person that can communicate as well as write - there are several trips that we are taking every year to trade-shows and major site commissionig projects (I've been to NY, Vegas and Amsterdam too many times already!) Turnover sees a team member rollover each couple of years or so - but generally we have enough interesting work to keep anyone challenged! And if you have ideas of your own - we can help you realise those as products as well. 4K video streaming, 90% pipe utilisation in file transfers etc... all good stuff at the bleeding edge a
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All good points raised - thanks for the feedback - The subprojects are separate applications and assemblies that combine to form a complex distributed rich-media processing package across WAN/VPN in most cases. The back-end is service based multiple video encoders and data scavengers, the middleware is application specific IIS/ASP.net, while clients are moving to Impressions/Silverlight. we acknowledge that some of the technoogies are very new - and happily support training and learn-in periods. Almost all our developed components are 'live' with real-time data sources and client operations. If you have the balls to take on all the elements at once as a 'project' great! We would really like to find you - but there aren't many of you out there, and we'd need to see you strut your stuff... The continuous tweaking to our evolving and varying customer requirements (from South Africa to Canada and all between) and moving industry targets keep us on our toes. Notwithstanding the software team leader is extremely capable in ALL) things NET - so he's a valubale ally to us and any new-hires that come on board. Heroes don't last as you noted - we dropped one last week - hence looking for someone to pick up the slack. We will look at coding style and documentation first - to see if the basics are there that can be built upon... of course the right people will sail through this without a blink - as they already know how hard it is to revisit badly written code. Also the need to deal with customers on support issues is extremely important - we've had guys in the past that tell the customer 'you must be doing something wrong' in writing... that stops real fast! Remuneration for the right people is always negotiable - and kicks up to well over $100K for the people that can listen, understand, assimilate, share, and deliver. Web shop donkeys need not apply. For a person that can communicate as well as write - there are several trips that we are taking every year to trade-shows and major site commissionig projects (I've been to NY, Vegas and Amsterdam too many times already!) Turnover sees a team member rollover each couple of years or so - but generally we have enough interesting work to keep anyone challenged! And if you have ideas of your own - we can help you realise those as products as well. 4K video streaming, 90% pipe utilisation in file transfers etc... all good stuff at the bleeding edge a
And yet you've missed something very important in your post - where you are (and as this site is targetted at international markets, do you offer relocation; this is useful stuff for potential applicants). This reads like marketing fluff. Remember, developers are typically very cynical about anything that sounds like marketing hype.
mcoop wrote:
The subprojects are separate applications and assemblies that combine to form a complex distributed rich-media processing package across WAN/VPN in most cases.
And what does this actually mean? How does this tell me what I'll actually be doing?
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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And yet you've missed something very important in your post - where you are (and as this site is targetted at international markets, do you offer relocation; this is useful stuff for potential applicants). This reads like marketing fluff. Remember, developers are typically very cynical about anything that sounds like marketing hype.
mcoop wrote:
The subprojects are separate applications and assemblies that combine to form a complex distributed rich-media processing package across WAN/VPN in most cases.
And what does this actually mean? How does this tell me what I'll actually be doing?
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
RELOCATION - Absolutely for the right people - can also consider remote contracting if that suits the aapplicant. With VoIP and working across VPN (and that horrible word) telecommuting it's very practical in our business - possibly an advantage with our widely distributed customer base. Obviously the candidate has to meet higher requirements to justify higher risk. Of course we would like to find a local (Aussie) that can fill the role in order to shorten the ramp-up. Top people get top treatment. Sorry I cant explain the product family clearly, as we are in a very small market (perhaps 10 suppliers with 1000 customers) around the world - so discussing internal methods is not really possible at this stage. Of course upon first meeting - the books are open to discuss and examine who/what/why/how... I appreciate the comment on cynicism - thanks to our respective governments for that! As I'm in the over 40's bracket - I still have faith in human nature and integrity when dealing person to person ! cheers
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RELOCATION - Absolutely for the right people - can also consider remote contracting if that suits the aapplicant. With VoIP and working across VPN (and that horrible word) telecommuting it's very practical in our business - possibly an advantage with our widely distributed customer base. Obviously the candidate has to meet higher requirements to justify higher risk. Of course we would like to find a local (Aussie) that can fill the role in order to shorten the ramp-up. Top people get top treatment. Sorry I cant explain the product family clearly, as we are in a very small market (perhaps 10 suppliers with 1000 customers) around the world - so discussing internal methods is not really possible at this stage. Of course upon first meeting - the books are open to discuss and examine who/what/why/how... I appreciate the comment on cynicism - thanks to our respective governments for that! As I'm in the over 40's bracket - I still have faith in human nature and integrity when dealing person to person ! cheers
mcoop wrote:
I appreciate the comment on cynicism - thanks to our respective governments for that!
What do our governments have to do with developers being cynical about marketing hype?
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mcoop wrote:
I appreciate the comment on cynicism - thanks to our respective governments for that!
What do our governments have to do with developers being cynical about marketing hype?
Recent blog posts: * Introduction to LINQ to XML (Part 1) - (Part 2) - (part 3) My website | Blog
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RELOCATION - Absolutely for the right people - can also consider remote contracting if that suits the aapplicant. With VoIP and working across VPN (and that horrible word) telecommuting it's very practical in our business - possibly an advantage with our widely distributed customer base. Obviously the candidate has to meet higher requirements to justify higher risk. Of course we would like to find a local (Aussie) that can fill the role in order to shorten the ramp-up. Top people get top treatment. Sorry I cant explain the product family clearly, as we are in a very small market (perhaps 10 suppliers with 1000 customers) around the world - so discussing internal methods is not really possible at this stage. Of course upon first meeting - the books are open to discuss and examine who/what/why/how... I appreciate the comment on cynicism - thanks to our respective governments for that! As I'm in the over 40's bracket - I still have faith in human nature and integrity when dealing person to person ! cheers
In which case - why not take a look at people's answers to posts in this forum and decide who (if any) you feel that meets your criteria. You could email them via the email link in their replies and explain your position to them - I'm not advocating this because they may construe this as spam, but you could do this.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.