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  • D Dy

    My nephew spent the weekend at ours, and being a teenage boy he is basically nocturnal. So when we went to bed, he stayed up playing on the internet. I thought I had a fair idea of what he would be doing, looking at picture of "models" and that sort of thing. Boy was I wrong! Turns out he was trying to download software to crack the activation of some software he's downloaded at home. Cheeky little sod. In the morning, he sheepishly tells me that he thinks my computer has a virus called avast, telling me that this virus popped up a message on the screen telling him that the software he was running (called crack.exe) had a virus - "that can't be right can it Uncle?". Oh boy, here we go. It took me two ours to get into Windows on Sunday morning, and twelve hours to let avast run a through scan and clean up the mess he's made. I could throttle the little git. I've finally got the system back up and running, with only two small problems. When you click your name to load your profile, the 'loading your personal settings' screen appears and takes around 4 minutes to complete, and when shutting down it takes around six minutes. There's nothing untoward in the event viewer logs, just the normal services, and I'm having little luck finding out what the OS could be doing during these periods on MSDN and google. Can anyone point me towards a guide as to what the machine could be doing during these periods so I can try to speed it up?

    - Dy

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    Mike Dimmick
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    Unfortunately, the best way to sort out these problems is simply to say that you can no longer trust anything on the system and rebuild it from scratch. I'd try Rootkit Revealer[^] to see if there's anything like that lurking on the system. Then any other badware scanner like Ad-Aware[^] and Spybot[^], but well-hiding malware can still hide from these programs. In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

    DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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      Unfortunately, the best way to sort out these problems is simply to say that you can no longer trust anything on the system and rebuild it from scratch. I'd try Rootkit Revealer[^] to see if there's anything like that lurking on the system. Then any other badware scanner like Ad-Aware[^] and Spybot[^], but well-hiding malware can still hide from these programs. In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

      DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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      Dy
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      Mike Dimmick wrote:

      In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

      I've taken a slightly different attitude. He's now only allowed access to the Linux box. It's got firefox on it, which is all he will be allowed access to.

      - Dy

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      • D Dy

        Mike Dimmick wrote:

        In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

        I've taken a slightly different attitude. He's now only allowed access to the Linux box. It's got firefox on it, which is all he will be allowed access to.

        - Dy

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        leppie
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        And what is the point of cracking open source software? ;P

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        • D Dy

          My nephew spent the weekend at ours, and being a teenage boy he is basically nocturnal. So when we went to bed, he stayed up playing on the internet. I thought I had a fair idea of what he would be doing, looking at picture of "models" and that sort of thing. Boy was I wrong! Turns out he was trying to download software to crack the activation of some software he's downloaded at home. Cheeky little sod. In the morning, he sheepishly tells me that he thinks my computer has a virus called avast, telling me that this virus popped up a message on the screen telling him that the software he was running (called crack.exe) had a virus - "that can't be right can it Uncle?". Oh boy, here we go. It took me two ours to get into Windows on Sunday morning, and twelve hours to let avast run a through scan and clean up the mess he's made. I could throttle the little git. I've finally got the system back up and running, with only two small problems. When you click your name to load your profile, the 'loading your personal settings' screen appears and takes around 4 minutes to complete, and when shutting down it takes around six minutes. There's nothing untoward in the event viewer logs, just the normal services, and I'm having little luck finding out what the OS could be doing during these periods on MSDN and google. Can anyone point me towards a guide as to what the machine could be doing during these periods so I can try to speed it up?

          - Dy

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          Christian Graus
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          My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

          Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          • C Christian Graus

            My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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            leppie
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            I never knew 10 year old girls were into porn

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            • C Christian Graus

              My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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              I can't believe she had to 'look' for porn, it only takes 2 seconds!

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              • C Christian Graus

                My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

                Ah - "blame the dog" way of doing things. ;P

                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                • M Mike Dimmick

                  Unfortunately, the best way to sort out these problems is simply to say that you can no longer trust anything on the system and rebuild it from scratch. I'd try Rootkit Revealer[^] to see if there's anything like that lurking on the system. Then any other badware scanner like Ad-Aware[^] and Spybot[^], but well-hiding malware can still hide from these programs. In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

                  DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  Mike Dimmick wrote:

                  you can no longer trust anything on the system

                  Amen!

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • D Dy

                    Mike Dimmick wrote:

                    In future, don't let him have administrative rights on the system. Make his account a Standard User account.

                    I've taken a slightly different attitude. He's now only allowed access to the Linux box. It's got firefox on it, which is all he will be allowed access to.

                    - Dy

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                    markkuk
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                    -Dy wrote:

                    He's now only allowed access to the Linux box. It's got firefox on it, which is all he will be allowed access to.

                    That means he can search Google for instructions to reset the root password[^] and gain full access to the machine. You should have given him only a text-mode console running rbash[^], and no lynx, wget, curl or any other Internet-access commands in the $PATH.

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                      I never knew 10 year old girls were into porn

                      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                      IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Nor did I, but she's the common thread, and the searches make it obvious (zack effron totally nude full on was one )

                      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        My 10 year old neice has caused havoc on all the family PCs, searching for porn.

                        Ah - "blame the dog" way of doing things. ;P

                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Actually, I blamed my father in law at first and lectured him on deleting his history, not downloading any ActiveX, etc. Whenver my tenant does a google search now, it finds porn and shows photos. No matter what she looks for

                        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                          Nor did I, but she's the common thread, and the searches make it obvious (zack effron totally nude full on was one )

                          Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                          leppie
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          zack effron totally nude full on was one

                          I dunno who or what that is, but it sounds scary enough :)

                          xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                          IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            zack effron totally nude full on was one

                            I dunno who or what that is, but it sounds scary enough :)

                            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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                            Christian Graus
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                            The male star of high school musical.

                            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                            • D Dy

                              My nephew spent the weekend at ours, and being a teenage boy he is basically nocturnal. So when we went to bed, he stayed up playing on the internet. I thought I had a fair idea of what he would be doing, looking at picture of "models" and that sort of thing. Boy was I wrong! Turns out he was trying to download software to crack the activation of some software he's downloaded at home. Cheeky little sod. In the morning, he sheepishly tells me that he thinks my computer has a virus called avast, telling me that this virus popped up a message on the screen telling him that the software he was running (called crack.exe) had a virus - "that can't be right can it Uncle?". Oh boy, here we go. It took me two ours to get into Windows on Sunday morning, and twelve hours to let avast run a through scan and clean up the mess he's made. I could throttle the little git. I've finally got the system back up and running, with only two small problems. When you click your name to load your profile, the 'loading your personal settings' screen appears and takes around 4 minutes to complete, and when shutting down it takes around six minutes. There's nothing untoward in the event viewer logs, just the normal services, and I'm having little luck finding out what the OS could be doing during these periods on MSDN and google. Can anyone point me towards a guide as to what the machine could be doing during these periods so I can try to speed it up?

                              - Dy

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                              Norton Ghost. That and creating User acounts for idiots.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                The male star of high school musical.

                                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                leppie
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                                Really scary!

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
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                                  Actually, I blamed my father in law at first and lectured him on deleting his history, not downloading any ActiveX, etc. Whenver my tenant does a google search now, it finds porn and shows photos. No matter what she looks for

                                  Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Whenver my tenant does a google search now, it finds porn and shows photos. No matter what she looks for

                                  Lucky tenant! :-D Why don't you try disabling the suspicious BHO entries with the help of HijackThis? I've fixed similar problems (more than once) at my neighbors place.

                                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Whenver my tenant does a google search now, it finds porn and shows photos. No matter what she looks for

                                    Lucky tenant! :-D Why don't you try disabling the suspicious BHO entries with the help of HijackThis? I've fixed similar problems (more than once) at my neighbors place.

                                    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                    I felt the safest thing was to just reinstall.

                                    Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                      Really scary!

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      yes, indeed. Most of her other searches were not lounge friendly. At 10.

                                      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                        I felt the safest thing was to just reinstall.

                                        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        Reinstall what? Windows?

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                                        • D Dy

                                          My nephew spent the weekend at ours, and being a teenage boy he is basically nocturnal. So when we went to bed, he stayed up playing on the internet. I thought I had a fair idea of what he would be doing, looking at picture of "models" and that sort of thing. Boy was I wrong! Turns out he was trying to download software to crack the activation of some software he's downloaded at home. Cheeky little sod. In the morning, he sheepishly tells me that he thinks my computer has a virus called avast, telling me that this virus popped up a message on the screen telling him that the software he was running (called crack.exe) had a virus - "that can't be right can it Uncle?". Oh boy, here we go. It took me two ours to get into Windows on Sunday morning, and twelve hours to let avast run a through scan and clean up the mess he's made. I could throttle the little git. I've finally got the system back up and running, with only two small problems. When you click your name to load your profile, the 'loading your personal settings' screen appears and takes around 4 minutes to complete, and when shutting down it takes around six minutes. There's nothing untoward in the event viewer logs, just the normal services, and I'm having little luck finding out what the OS could be doing during these periods on MSDN and google. Can anyone point me towards a guide as to what the machine could be doing during these periods so I can try to speed it up?

                                          - Dy

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                                          Funny, I used to be just like that, but I was clever and ran every unknown executable under an account called "Sandbox" (with privledges more restricted than Guest).

                                          So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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