Antivirus is 'completely wasted money'
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http://news.zdnet.com/2424-1009_22-202297.html[^] "A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute" I don't think it is so easy to do, but probably is the only way to go. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
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jhaga wrote:
How to earn $100/month.
Is that a joke?
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out nowleppie wrote:
Is that a joke?
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2424-1009_22-202297.html[^] "A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute" I don't think it is so easy to do, but probably is the only way to go. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
From the link:
"If patching and antivirus is where I spend my money, and I'm still getting infected and I still have to clean up computers and I still need to reload them and still have to recover the user's data and I still have to reinstall it
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do. A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute, said Stewart. How dumb! What in the effing world is he talking about? Isn't UAC just doing this? Is he just trying to get into the news or something?
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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leppie wrote:
Is that a joke?
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
jhaga wrote:
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment.
Experiment to discover what? If someone told me they could get me a great job earning $100 per month I'd probably laugh. And why does it go to a page with nothing but adverts. Is this how you are earning $100 per month?
Recent blog posts: * Introduction to LINQ to XML (Part 1) - (Part 2) - (part 3) My website | Blog
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jhaga wrote:
How to earn $100/month.
Is that a joke?
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out nowDo not do anything that is assigned to you by your manager- break a lot of things at home regularly, always break the speed limit on road, do not pay taxes - does that work? Still $100/month is tough really :laugh:
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leppie wrote:
Is that a joke?
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
jhaga wrote:
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment.
To find out what??
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From the link:
"If patching and antivirus is where I spend my money, and I'm still getting infected and I still have to clean up computers and I still need to reload them and still have to recover the user's data and I still have to reinstall it
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do. A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute, said Stewart. How dumb! What in the effing world is he talking about? Isn't UAC just doing this? Is he just trying to get into the news or something?
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Antivirus has worked for me and many others
This is only appropriate for techies but I haven't used an anti-virus in years now and most of my work-mates don't either. We do have a good firewall and we do keep our software patched though. The rest of our "anti-virus" system involves not clicking bad links, not opening dodgy executable or executing unknown scripts. Common sense in other words (to techies.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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From the link:
"If patching and antivirus is where I spend my money, and I'm still getting infected and I still have to clean up computers and I still need to reload them and still have to recover the user's data and I still have to reinstall it
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do. A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute, said Stewart. How dumb! What in the effing world is he talking about? Isn't UAC just doing this? Is he just trying to get into the news or something?
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do.
And you're firmly in the same category. I can tell you from experience that to avoid having to use A/V software, you simply have to know what to do and what not to do. I don't use A/V software on any of my five machines.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Antivirus has worked for me and many others
This is only appropriate for techies but I haven't used an anti-virus in years now and most of my work-mates don't either. We do have a good firewall and we do keep our software patched though. The rest of our "anti-virus" system involves not clicking bad links, not opening dodgy executable or executing unknown scripts. Common sense in other words (to techies.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
I am not working for a small company and so I cannot decide if or not to have an antivirus in my computer at work place. Using an antivirus simply does not have anything to do with being a techie. I believe that I am techie enough, but I will want to run an antivirus too. It is just a matter of individual priorities.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do.
And you're firmly in the same category. I can tell you from experience that to avoid having to use A/V software, you simply have to know what to do and what not to do. I don't use A/V software on any of my five machines.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001See my reply to Paul Watson.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Antivirus has worked for me and many others
This is only appropriate for techies but I haven't used an anti-virus in years now and most of my work-mates don't either. We do have a good firewall and we do keep our software patched though. The rest of our "anti-virus" system involves not clicking bad links, not opening dodgy executable or executing unknown scripts. Common sense in other words (to techies.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
"Common sense" keeps you from stepping into obvious traps (NUDE_PARIS_HILTON_SCREENSAVER.EXE and such), but unfortunately malware/crimeware authors have become _a_lot_ smarter. Sure, there still is an awful lot of idiots trying to prey on the unaware, but some of the more sophisticated approaches cannot simply be blocked by "common sense". We live in a time where it can be enough to load an (otherwise inconspicuous) webpage with a prepared image on it to get infected. There's a gazillion of exploits for almost every program you use on a daily basis - do you know all of them? If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...
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"Common sense" keeps you from stepping into obvious traps (NUDE_PARIS_HILTON_SCREENSAVER.EXE and such), but unfortunately malware/crimeware authors have become _a_lot_ smarter. Sure, there still is an awful lot of idiots trying to prey on the unaware, but some of the more sophisticated approaches cannot simply be blocked by "common sense". We live in a time where it can be enough to load an (otherwise inconspicuous) webpage with a prepared image on it to get infected. There's a gazillion of exploits for almost every program you use on a daily basis - do you know all of them? If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...
mav.northwind wrote:
If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Then explain how many techies get by fine without anti-virus.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I can only say that he is a dumbass then! Antivirus has worked for me and many others. You just need to know what to do and what not to do.
And you're firmly in the same category. I can tell you from experience that to avoid having to use A/V software, you simply have to know what to do and what not to do. I don't use A/V software on any of my five machines.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
And you're firmly in the same category.
Rubbish. Nobody is a dumbass just because he runs an antivirus. Unless, of course, it's Norton. :rolleyes:
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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jhaga wrote:
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment.
Experiment to discover what? If someone told me they could get me a great job earning $100 per month I'd probably laugh. And why does it go to a page with nothing but adverts. Is this how you are earning $100 per month?
Recent blog posts: * Introduction to LINQ to XML (Part 1) - (Part 2) - (part 3) My website | Blog
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"Common sense" keeps you from stepping into obvious traps (NUDE_PARIS_HILTON_SCREENSAVER.EXE and such), but unfortunately malware/crimeware authors have become _a_lot_ smarter. Sure, there still is an awful lot of idiots trying to prey on the unaware, but some of the more sophisticated approaches cannot simply be blocked by "common sense". We live in a time where it can be enough to load an (otherwise inconspicuous) webpage with a prepared image on it to get infected. There's a gazillion of exploits for almost every program you use on a daily basis - do you know all of them? If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...
mav.northwind wrote:
NUDE_PARIS_HILTON_SCREENSAVER.EXE
No, that was indeed a screensaver with n... Oh... :-O
~RaGE();
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mav.northwind wrote:
If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Then explain how many techies get by fine without anti-virus.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Sheer luck. Or perhaps they don't get by and are already infected with a keylogger, spambot or anything else from the wide range of malware. It's no longer the simple viri that infect executables and delete system-critical files on every 5th of july. Nowadays, the goal of this software is not to be noticed. Can you really say that you know what your machine does whenever the disk LED lites up or your network connection shows traffic? Perhaps anti-virus software developers don't know either in some cases, but I, for my part, know that they know a lot more about how malware works than I do, so I try to keep my signatures up-to-date.
Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
And you're firmly in the same category.
Rubbish. Nobody is a dumbass just because he runs an antivirus. Unless, of course, it's Norton. :rolleyes:
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
Today, I'm not in the mood to explain what I say.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
jhaga wrote:
No, it is my sig. Just a small experiment.
Experiment to discover what? If someone told me they could get me a great job earning $100 per month I'd probably laugh. And why does it go to a page with nothing but adverts. Is this how you are earning $100 per month?
Recent blog posts: * Introduction to LINQ to XML (Part 1) - (Part 2) - (part 3) My website | Blog
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Is this how you are earning $100 per month?
Yes, it is me earning $100. The experiment is to see how many people actually go to that page, and how many presses a link on the site. Also interesting to see how fast google indexes pages like that. Sometimes it gets indexed in 15 min and other times never. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2424-1009_22-202297.html[^] "A better way of dealing with the unknown is to use whitelists--where only authorized or approved software can execute" I don't think it is so easy to do, but probably is the only way to go. jhaga
How to earn $100/month.
jhaga wrote:
I don't think it is so easy to do, but probably is the only way to go.
absolutely, we all know users never download and install anything they don't know about, and never approve anything they don't know everything about. :rolleyes:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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mav.northwind wrote:
If you don't use antivirus software then you must be either quite naive or rather ignorant.
Then explain how many techies get by fine without anti-virus.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Hi Paul, I totally agree with you. You could have added: How to explain how many AV-users get infected while having a running anti-virus... How many people get sensitive information lost/stolen because they didn't backup/protect it... AVs are kind of Vs also!