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  • M Martin Marvinski

    I wonder if Microsoft has a computer manufacturer that supplies all it's computers. I'd venture to say they probably standardise on DELL. On a different note, when do you think MS will come out with a Microsoft branded computer? They already do some hardware like mice, keyboards and joysticks.

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    Larry Antram
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    When I worked there, everything was a little bit of this and that... Gateway, Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc... the testers obviously had tons of different types of computers... everyone else got whatever was available or in vogue. IMO, Microsoft is not coming out with a MSFT computer... other than perhaps non-desktop type stuff... TV set top boxes which they tried over and over (and failed), WebTV which they bought (and is now MSN TV), XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things), etc... they keep trying... but that is the thing about Microsoft... they don't give up... given time... perhaps something along those lines... but i don't see any MSFT PCs... they are not fools. Regards, Larry Antram Stardust Software "Those who choose to sacrifice freedom in order to gain security shall not have, nor do they deserve, either one" -- Benjamin Franklin

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      When I worked there, everything was a little bit of this and that... Gateway, Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc... the testers obviously had tons of different types of computers... everyone else got whatever was available or in vogue. IMO, Microsoft is not coming out with a MSFT computer... other than perhaps non-desktop type stuff... TV set top boxes which they tried over and over (and failed), WebTV which they bought (and is now MSN TV), XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things), etc... they keep trying... but that is the thing about Microsoft... they don't give up... given time... perhaps something along those lines... but i don't see any MSFT PCs... they are not fools. Regards, Larry Antram Stardust Software "Those who choose to sacrifice freedom in order to gain security shall not have, nor do they deserve, either one" -- Benjamin Franklin

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      Mr Morden
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      Larry Antram wrote: XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things) It appears that XBox is quite a way ahead of the Gamecube in Australia. http://australianit.news.com.au/common/search_form_handler?SEARCH_ACT=display&story_id=4750784&TotalPage=3&searchTermIMT=%28xbox%29&pageNum=1&resNum=20&searchLog=20020725162324-9079&searchBy=date&Intro=No[^]

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        Larry Antram wrote: XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things) It appears that XBox is quite a way ahead of the Gamecube in Australia. http://australianit.news.com.au/common/search_form_handler?SEARCH_ACT=display&story_id=4750784&TotalPage=3&searchTermIMT=%28xbox%29&pageNum=1&resNum=20&searchLog=20020725162324-9079&searchBy=date&Intro=No[^]

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        Chris Maunder
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        Everyone I know has PS2's - don't know anyone who has an X-box (in Oz) and I don't even *hear* about the game cubes. Maybe if they, um, advertised? cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Everyone I know has PS2's - don't know anyone who has an X-box (in Oz) and I don't even *hear* about the game cubes. Maybe if they, um, advertised? cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Mr Morden
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          They were advertising them on bus shelters and on pay tv for a while. Havent seen many ads lately. It all seemed to be pre-release advertising, for both MS and Nintendo. Only Sony seem to be continually advertising. Personally I think XB is beating GC because the games are more interesting than the cutesy cartoony stuff that Nintendo are offering. Playstation is trouncing both of them, because PS2 was able to play PS1 games, and instantly got market share that way.

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          • L Larry Antram

            When I worked there, everything was a little bit of this and that... Gateway, Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc... the testers obviously had tons of different types of computers... everyone else got whatever was available or in vogue. IMO, Microsoft is not coming out with a MSFT computer... other than perhaps non-desktop type stuff... TV set top boxes which they tried over and over (and failed), WebTV which they bought (and is now MSN TV), XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things), etc... they keep trying... but that is the thing about Microsoft... they don't give up... given time... perhaps something along those lines... but i don't see any MSFT PCs... they are not fools. Regards, Larry Antram Stardust Software "Those who choose to sacrifice freedom in order to gain security shall not have, nor do they deserve, either one" -- Benjamin Franklin

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            Brigg Thorp
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            I've done some work with people from Microsoft in the past, and they always were allowed to buy whatever they wanted. Some people had HP, some had Dell, but many developers would build their own kick-butt systems. I'll tell you this much though, it must be an IT nightmare trying to support all of these different systems. Brigg Thorp Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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              Larry Antram wrote: XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things) It appears that XBox is quite a way ahead of the Gamecube in Australia. http://australianit.news.com.au/common/search_form_handler?SEARCH_ACT=display&story_id=4750784&TotalPage=3&searchTermIMT=%28xbox%29&pageNum=1&resNum=20&searchLog=20020725162324-9079&searchBy=date&Intro=No[^]

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              XBox which is actually a pretty cool game box (but hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things) It appears that XBox is quite a way ahead of the Gamecube in Australia. Just because the XBox is ahead of the GC, it doesn't mean the original statement isn't true ("but [the XBox] hasn't done that great in the entire scheme of things"). From the article (per week sales): "GameCube sales were 1370, compared to 2020 for Xbox and a whopping 9216 for PS2." ( If the XBox is "quite a way ahead" of the GC with 50% more sales, then the XBox must be "biting it hard" since PS2 outsells XBox by 350% ) ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips

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              • M Martin Marvinski

                I wonder if Microsoft has a computer manufacturer that supplies all it's computers. I'd venture to say they probably standardise on DELL. On a different note, when do you think MS will come out with a Microsoft branded computer? They already do some hardware like mice, keyboards and joysticks.

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                Walter Sullivan
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                I doubt its that different from other technology companies. I have two Dell's and a Toshiba in my office. The latter being a Laptop, one of the Dell's is ancient and not good for much more than a doorstop. Over the past 12 years I've had Wyse, Compaq, Gateway, IBM, Toshiba, Dell, Micron desktops. Never had an HP, although there are some around. We have standard hardware configurations from most of the major suppliers which most people order. Its the employee's preference usually. Often, when we're doing a mass order for a group, we'll just order the same machines for everyone. Certainly this is the case for build and test labs where we have racks of machines. IT support? If you don't buy one of the standard configurations, you're on your own. Most people in the product groups prefer it that way actually. We're constantly trashing our machines to test some specific install configuration, installing the latest beta of an OS. When I was in VS, I probably reformatted my main desktop twice a month (only some of the time that was because of a pre-beta version of VS...:laugh: ). Later, Walter Sullivan Lead Program Manager, CE Automotive (formerly of VC++)

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                  I doubt its that different from other technology companies. I have two Dell's and a Toshiba in my office. The latter being a Laptop, one of the Dell's is ancient and not good for much more than a doorstop. Over the past 12 years I've had Wyse, Compaq, Gateway, IBM, Toshiba, Dell, Micron desktops. Never had an HP, although there are some around. We have standard hardware configurations from most of the major suppliers which most people order. Its the employee's preference usually. Often, when we're doing a mass order for a group, we'll just order the same machines for everyone. Certainly this is the case for build and test labs where we have racks of machines. IT support? If you don't buy one of the standard configurations, you're on your own. Most people in the product groups prefer it that way actually. We're constantly trashing our machines to test some specific install configuration, installing the latest beta of an OS. When I was in VS, I probably reformatted my main desktop twice a month (only some of the time that was because of a pre-beta version of VS...:laugh: ). Later, Walter Sullivan Lead Program Manager, CE Automotive (formerly of VC++)

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                  Walter Sullivan wrote: CE Automotive OMG Its true !! Ouch ! Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                    Walter Sullivan wrote: CE Automotive OMG Its true !! Ouch ! Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                    Walter Sullivan
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                    ;P You knew it was going to happen, eventually! You probably just overlooked this press release: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/07-15WinCEautomotive.asp

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                    • W Walter Sullivan

                      ;P You knew it was going to happen, eventually! You probably just overlooked this press release: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/07-15WinCEautomotive.asp

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                      ColinDavies
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                      Walter Sullivan wrote: You knew it was going to happen, eventually! Yes Walter, I actually thought it might have come sooner. To be truthfull, I almost envy you working in this area as I can imagine it's going to really boom at some stage. Although I have a vision in my head of Youthz hotting up their cars by yanking the CE out and replacing it with there own boxes to make use of all the ( gizmo || interface ) technology. One thing that I believe is essential is that the current realtime embedded stuff works as it does already and that the 'telematics' stuff is only an assistant. Also I really can see some large security issues if the use of the term 'embedded' is abused in some form in CE. Anyhow best of luck :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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