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  • C ChandraRam

    Kannan.Coder wrote:

    The main advantage is that it wouldn’t make air, sound pollution.

    Are you sure? Think about how we will charge the electric bikes - how it is produced...

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    Kannan Coder
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    Do you like exercise in morning? Use a pedal and a dynamo to charge it ;P

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    • K Kannan Coder

      Or you people can think about an electric bike. The main advantage is that it wouldn’t make air, sound pollution.

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      I am still waiting for a reasonably powerful electric bike to be launched in India.

      Ok, everytime I enter aa code with anny of the #include starters, i get 103 errors and 2 warnings, and then I look for them, and it opens a new window "tab" thingy, and otsream, or istream or math or w/e i am using comes up. It makes testing fully written programs impossible to test. Does anyone know how to fix it?? - A query asked on the VC++ board[^]

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        I am still waiting for a reasonably powerful electric bike to be launched in India.

        Ok, everytime I enter aa code with anny of the #include starters, i get 103 errors and 2 warnings, and then I look for them, and it opens a new window "tab" thingy, and otsream, or istream or math or w/e i am using comes up. It makes testing fully written programs impossible to test. Does anyone know how to fix it?? - A query asked on the VC++ board[^]

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        Kannan Coder
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        Me too. Because my house is on a hill top. :-D

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        • K Kannan Coder

          Do you like exercise in morning? Use a pedal and a dynamo to charge it ;P

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          ChandraRam
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          Why would I need an electric bike at all then? ;P A good bicycle should do for exercise

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          • K Kannan Coder

            There are number of models in the market. http://www.surfindia.com/automobile/electric-bikes-scooters.html One man in my nearest city makes e bikes himself. He is using second hand bicycle and electric motors.

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            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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            The features enumerated are really promising. Wonder what is then preventing the society from switching to it sparing the non-renewable resource? :confused:

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              It is an Indian news, I admit. But just trying to share it since the Government of India has taken a decision to serve as a wrong role-model for other nations' governments. I believe, the Government of India is turning truly impotent and useless in making decisions, succumbing to votebank politics. Over to the petrol price melodrama: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/fuel-prices-hiked-petrol-up-by-rs-5-diesel-by-rs-3/66581-3.html[^] And, in a shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes for the next upcoming elections, the Prime Minister wants to address the nation tonight. :mad:

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              All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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              I think that petrol should be completely unregulated. Diesel should be available on subsidy only to public utilities and freight carriers. No subsidies for airline fuel. Subsidized LPG for cooking should be available only for families below poverty line. If there is real concern about taxes, government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped. I am sure every Indian will agree that far more can be done for far less money, if the bureaucracy is trimmed down and simpler distribution schemes for welfare is implemented. In Kerala, the government has about 3 lakhs employees. There are only less than 2000 panchayats (town in US terms). The government effectively employs 150 people per panchayat. Nothing much happens in these panchayats anyway. They can't even maintain infrastructure or provide effective waste disposal. Proper computerization with simplified administrative procedures is required. (the current ones were made when there was no telephone or motor vehicles; files are being manually send by post everyday). I know that it will not happen; firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

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                I think that petrol should be completely unregulated. Diesel should be available on subsidy only to public utilities and freight carriers. No subsidies for airline fuel. Subsidized LPG for cooking should be available only for families below poverty line. If there is real concern about taxes, government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped. I am sure every Indian will agree that far more can be done for far less money, if the bureaucracy is trimmed down and simpler distribution schemes for welfare is implemented. In Kerala, the government has about 3 lakhs employees. There are only less than 2000 panchayats (town in US terms). The government effectively employs 150 people per panchayat. Nothing much happens in these panchayats anyway. They can't even maintain infrastructure or provide effective waste disposal. Proper computerization with simplified administrative procedures is required. (the current ones were made when there was no telephone or motor vehicles; files are being manually send by post everyday). I know that it will not happen; firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

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                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                Thomas George wrote:

                government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped

                Very much. At least this befits Government of Tamil Nadu very much. I am not sure, how this government is going to respond to the crazy schemes like Free LPG and Free Color TV for masses, which were launched purely to strenghten their vote banks.

                Thomas George wrote:

                firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

                Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick. :)

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                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                  Thomas George wrote:

                  government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped

                  Very much. At least this befits Government of Tamil Nadu very much. I am not sure, how this government is going to respond to the crazy schemes like Free LPG and Free Color TV for masses, which were launched purely to strenghten their vote banks.

                  Thomas George wrote:

                  firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

                  Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick. :)

                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
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                  All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                  Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick.

                  The best part would be that we will miss nothing :)

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                    Very much true. Much of the lazy a$$es need to be given a kick.

                    The best part would be that we will miss nothing :)

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    We would rather gain a lot of thing. 1) Significant savings for the exchequer 2) Better management of public taxes instead of just letting them in the drain. 3) Better name and fame for the various departments of the government since the rampantly corrupt political skunks are being cleared off.

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                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                      It is an Indian news, I admit. But just trying to share it since the Government of India has taken a decision to serve as a wrong role-model for other nations' governments. I believe, the Government of India is turning truly impotent and useless in making decisions, succumbing to votebank politics. Over to the petrol price melodrama: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/fuel-prices-hiked-petrol-up-by-rs-5-diesel-by-rs-3/66581-3.html[^] And, in a shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes for the next upcoming elections, the Prime Minister wants to address the nation tonight. :mad:

                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                      Tech Gossips
                      All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                      Lost User
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                      Just whan India is fgoing to get a car they can afford, they cant afford the fuel. Sorry guys, looks like the western lifestyle just keeps slipping out of reach... :)

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                        It is an Indian news, I admit. But just trying to share it since the Government of India has taken a decision to serve as a wrong role-model for other nations' governments. I believe, the Government of India is turning truly impotent and useless in making decisions, succumbing to votebank politics. Over to the petrol price melodrama: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/fuel-prices-hiked-petrol-up-by-rs-5-diesel-by-rs-3/66581-3.html[^] And, in a shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes for the next upcoming elections, the Prime Minister wants to address the nation tonight. :mad:

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                        Tech Gossips
                        All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        I am not sure what you are ranting about here. I think it is unfortunate that in India petrol proces are in control of the government a opposed to the free market. That to me will be the real rant rather than the price increase.

                        This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE

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                          Just whan India is fgoing to get a car they can afford, they cant afford the fuel. Sorry guys, looks like the western lifestyle just keeps slipping out of reach... :)

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                          The purchase of car is an one-time investment. The number of times we purchase fuel and its ratio against the original investment seems to have gone through a really horrible sea-change and the current manifestation of it being a terrifying price model of the non-renewable resource. :)

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                            I am not sure what you are ranting about here. I think it is unfortunate that in India petrol proces are in control of the government a opposed to the free market. That to me will be the real rant rather than the price increase.

                            This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE

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                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                            The bureocratic processes are actively interfering the free flow of fuel. Isn't it?

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                            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                              The bureocratic processes are actively interfering the free flow of fuel. Isn't it?

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                              All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Sadly yes. The politicians - they must be shot. All of them. :|

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                              • C ChandraRam

                                Kannan.Coder wrote:

                                The main advantage is that it wouldn’t make air, sound pollution.

                                Are you sure? Think about how we will charge the electric bikes - how it is produced...

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                                Ilion
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                                ChandraRam wrote:

                                Kannan.Coder: The main advantage is that it wouldn’t make air, sound pollution. ChandraRam: Are you sure? Think about how we will charge the electric bikes - how it is produced...

                                Exactly! If we (as individuals, as societies) are going to make these sorts of decisions with "the environment" being the decisive factor, then we have to look at the whole picture.

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                                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                  Sadly yes. The politicians - they must be shot. All of them. :|

                                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                  The politicians - they must be shot. All of them.

                                  Shoot the lawyers. Most politicians are lawyers, so thinning that herd will be doubly beneficial.

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                                    I think that petrol should be completely unregulated. Diesel should be available on subsidy only to public utilities and freight carriers. No subsidies for airline fuel. Subsidized LPG for cooking should be available only for families below poverty line. If there is real concern about taxes, government sponsored welfare activities have to be revamped. I am sure every Indian will agree that far more can be done for far less money, if the bureaucracy is trimmed down and simpler distribution schemes for welfare is implemented. In Kerala, the government has about 3 lakhs employees. There are only less than 2000 panchayats (town in US terms). The government effectively employs 150 people per panchayat. Nothing much happens in these panchayats anyway. They can't even maintain infrastructure or provide effective waste disposal. Proper computerization with simplified administrative procedures is required. (the current ones were made when there was no telephone or motor vehicles; files are being manually send by post everyday). I know that it will not happen; firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                    I was going to reply to VDK, but you've said pretty much everything I wanted to.

                                    Thomas George wrote:

                                    firing 90% government employees will be a welcome step though

                                    Not as welcome as firing at them. ;P

                                    Cheers, Vikram.


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                                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                      It is an Indian news, I admit. But just trying to share it since the Government of India has taken a decision to serve as a wrong role-model for other nations' governments. I believe, the Government of India is turning truly impotent and useless in making decisions, succumbing to votebank politics. Over to the petrol price melodrama: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/fuel-prices-hiked-petrol-up-by-rs-5-diesel-by-rs-3/66581-3.html[^] And, in a shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes for the next upcoming elections, the Prime Minister wants to address the nation tonight. :mad:

                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
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                                      All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      How the hell is raising the prices a 'stunt'? Besides, the cost of procurement is rising; given that the arseholes in Govt will not reduce taxes/duties, how will the oil companies survive?

                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                      shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes

                                      I'm not sure what the right emoticon here is. I, for one, would kill a politician if they tried to lick my privates.

                                      Cheers, Vikram.


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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                        The politicians - they must be shot. All of them.

                                        Shoot the lawyers. Most politicians are lawyers, so thinning that herd will be doubly beneficial.

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        I'll be more than happy thinning the herd; but sadly it ain't gonna happen. :sigh:

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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          How the hell is raising the prices a 'stunt'? Besides, the cost of procurement is rising; given that the arseholes in Govt will not reduce taxes/duties, how will the oil companies survive?

                                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                          shameless gesture to lick the people's dick in getting sympathy votes

                                          I'm not sure what the right emoticon here is. I, for one, would kill a politician if they tried to lick my privates.

                                          Cheers, Vikram.


                                          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          Besides, the cost of procurement is rising; given that the arseholes in Govt will not reduce taxes/duties, how will the oil companies survive?

                                          Which oil companies are you talking about? Oil isn't distributed by any private agency in India. It is all government-run in our country and that monopoly is what is causing this misery.

                                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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