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    Paul Watson
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    new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

    I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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      new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

      I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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      // 10.25.2008 - this next piece of code takes text and makes it into a variable
      // 10.28.2008 - added a variable...oh and i just bought new shoes.

      String article = "sweeping generalizations"

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        // 10.25.2008 - this next piece of code takes text and makes it into a variable
        // 10.28.2008 - added a variable...oh and i just bought new shoes.

        String article = "sweeping generalizations"

        ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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        //10.29.2008 The shoes didn't fit well so i had to return them. But it like totally worked out //because now they had the green ones in stock.. they are sooo amazing //oh and added a check for null

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          new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

          I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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          Single Step Debugger
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          What is that “comments” stuff? I’m hearing some mates mention this time to time through the last decade, so I’m become curious. Some new technology or just a abbreviation of COM driving ME NuTS? :confused:

          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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            new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

            I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

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            [Quote]In an effort to make Ingres’s computer code more user-friendly and gender-neutral, McGrattan helped institute new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code. The rules apply to both Ingres employees and members of the open-source community who contribute code to Ingres’s products.[/Quote] Yup - I've used Ingres' database - it's one of the nastiest pieces of database technology that it's ever been my misfortune to touch. While other database manufacturers actually went about making their databases more powerful and useful, Ingres is better commented. :rolleyes:

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              new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

              I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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              Having it in source control is all fine and dandy, but when you've retrieved code from source control and you're scanning through it in the IDE, it's really nice to have those coding standards in place. That's the way I like to comment my code - especially when you're in a team of programmers.

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                Having it in source control is all fine and dandy, but when you've retrieved code from source control and you're scanning through it in the IDE, it's really nice to have those coding standards in place. That's the way I like to comment my code - especially when you're in a team of programmers.

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                Paul Watson
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                You do change history in comments?

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                  You do change history in comments?

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                  I do, when working on shared code, but quite informally.  I also like the easy availability in the IDE.

                  Anyone wanting my sympathy need not ask.

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                    //10.29.2008 The shoes didn't fit well so i had to return them. But it like totally worked out //because now they had the green ones in stock.. they are sooo amazing //oh and added a check for null

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                    keyboard warrior
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                    i was really nice in my joke...because after watching sex and the city the movie im really worried about what kind of content these "comments" would carry...

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                      I do, when working on shared code, but quite informally.  I also like the easy availability in the IDE.

                      Anyone wanting my sympathy need not ask.

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                      Judah Gabriel Himango
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                      Ditto. We do it informally with a <revision> tag in the the XML documention. Not for every little change, only significant changes: things like bug fixes, new functionality, new logic, etc. Renaming a variable or introduciing a new local isn't worthy of a revision notice.

                      Life, family, faith: Give me a visit. From my latest post: "How differently the psalmist saw it! How blessed -- how truly happy with real joy! -- is the man who delights in the Law of the Lord." Judah Himango

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                        new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

                        I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        ... I can do better[^] :)

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                          ... I can do better[^] :)

                          ***The collected future Mrs. Martin Hughes***

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Girls are also the solution to poverty, AIDS, hunger, war and such.[^]

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                            Girls are also the solution to poverty, AIDS, hunger, war and such.[^]

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Let's not diss them too much though. They're just so much nicer to errm, cuddle.... (I'll let you replace the word with the physical action of your choice). Let's face it, for all their naive statements about comments and the like, they are a better choice than the alternative.

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                              Girls are also the solution to poverty, AIDS, hunger, war and such.[^]

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                              "The world is a complete mess. Agree or disagree." Disagree. "Really? 600 Million girls would disagree with you." Good for them! Closes browser window.

                              ***The collected future Mrs. Martin Hughes***

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                                "The world is a complete mess. Agree or disagree." Disagree. "Really? 600 Million girls would disagree with you." Good for them! Closes browser window.

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                                I pretty much agree. In Africa especially. Women solve a lot more problems than the men but they get a lot less support.

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  I pretty much agree. In Africa especially. Women solve a lot more problems than the men but they get a lot less support.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Women solve a lot more problems than the men but they get a lot less support.

                                  Yeah, well they'd be advised not knocking on my door for it either. There's one women who gets my support and that's my duty done as far as I'm concerned :)

                                  ***The collected future Mrs. Martin Hughes***

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                                    new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

                                    I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    I find that anyone who assigns an ethnicity, or gender classification to subject matter that are totally unrelated, suspect, anything they write I therefore discounted. examples of stupidity; Hey you are black, you can dance... All white women are molleys[^]... All Jews are good at accounting... ... I bet you can't fool ole Rebecca Buckman, when she walks into a room, I bet she immediately knows if you are black, white, man, are a women and she's got you all figured out and what your capabilities are. [modified added link to what a molley is /]

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                                      I find that anyone who assigns an ethnicity, or gender classification to subject matter that are totally unrelated, suspect, anything they write I therefore discounted. examples of stupidity; Hey you are black, you can dance... All white women are molleys[^]... All Jews are good at accounting... ... I bet you can't fool ole Rebecca Buckman, when she walks into a room, I bet she immediately knows if you are black, white, man, are a women and she's got you all figured out and what your capabilities are. [modified added link to what a molley is /]

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                                      MrPlankton wrote:

                                      examples of stupidity; Hey you are black, you can dance... All white women are Molleys... All Jews are good at accounting... ...

                                      All Geordie's are heavy drinkers. Damn - she nailed that one. How about, "All men think about sex"? Damn. No, she got that one right as well.

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                                        new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code.

                                        I am going to pretty much validate what this article says[^] but that is one horrible coding standard, in my humble opinion. The "change history" bit is particularly nasty. We have source control and commit comments for that.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                        McGrattan boasts that 70% to 80% of the time, she can look at a chunk of computer code and tell if it was written by a man or a woman.

                                        Considering that maybe more than 80% of programmers are men, anybody can boast that with 70% to 80% accuracy.

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                                          [Quote]In an effort to make Ingres’s computer code more user-friendly and gender-neutral, McGrattan helped institute new coding standards at the company. They require programmers to include a detailed set of comments before each block of code explaining what the piece of code does and why; developers also must supply a detailed history of any changes they have made to the code. The rules apply to both Ingres employees and members of the open-source community who contribute code to Ingres’s products.[/Quote] Yup - I've used Ingres' database - it's one of the nastiest pieces of database technology that it's ever been my misfortune to touch. While other database manufacturers actually went about making their databases more powerful and useful, Ingres is better commented. :rolleyes:

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                          one of the nastiest pieces of database technology

                                          Indeed. Fortunately last fall we replaced the third-party product that uses it. Unfortunately the new third-party product uses Caché, which may be even worse. Developer of the new product: "But it's Faaasssst!" X|

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