AVCHD
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So you take your video and then come home and plug the camera into your PC with Firewire. It then transfers between the two. Is it 1:1 or speeded up? (e.g. does 60 minutes of footage take 60 minutes to transfer?)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Thats the right process and it's 1:1 but I don't mind, it gives me one more view of the footage before I start editing.
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I'm still trying to hock a kidney to afford a Canon HF100 (how annoying is it that a camera costing US$1000 costs €1000.) One concern is this blasted AVCHD format. Apparently it is a dog to edit. Not many apps support it and those that do often seem to involve converting to lesser resolutions and CRAY super computers for 5 minute clips. Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support. God knows how long 60 minutes of my unborn son giggling is going to take to edit. Probably even longer than what it feels like for family and friends to watch ;) Anyone worked with AVCHD? Most of the time I'll be archiving to external HDs and putting up 5 minute clips to Vimeo for my folks back home to see. Occasionally I'll want to watch it on my Sony HDTV. And hey, if George Lucas can get Jar Jar Binks onto a gazillion cinema screens I have a pretty good chance. I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated? (It's tough having my problems. :rolleyes: )
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Isn't this AVC aka MPEG-4?
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it is an extension to the standard MPEG-4 [^]
Steve
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I'm still trying to hock a kidney to afford a Canon HF100 (how annoying is it that a camera costing US$1000 costs €1000.) One concern is this blasted AVCHD format. Apparently it is a dog to edit. Not many apps support it and those that do often seem to involve converting to lesser resolutions and CRAY super computers for 5 minute clips. Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support. God knows how long 60 minutes of my unborn son giggling is going to take to edit. Probably even longer than what it feels like for family and friends to watch ;) Anyone worked with AVCHD? Most of the time I'll be archiving to external HDs and putting up 5 minute clips to Vimeo for my folks back home to see. Occasionally I'll want to watch it on my Sony HDTV. And hey, if George Lucas can get Jar Jar Binks onto a gazillion cinema screens I have a pretty good chance. I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated? (It's tough having my problems. :rolleyes: )
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
US$1000, try US$640: (amazon - 'Click here to see the price')[^] Wrt AVCHD: i don't think i'd sweat it, editing is only going to get better as more adopt it (which seems to be a done deal). You may also want to look at the Samsung SC-HMX20C [^] Blurb ..[^] Review ...[^] I still think the hf100 is better overall, but the sammy has some nice features. It would be a contender if it had better low-light performance.
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
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I'm still trying to hock a kidney to afford a Canon HF100 (how annoying is it that a camera costing US$1000 costs €1000.) One concern is this blasted AVCHD format. Apparently it is a dog to edit. Not many apps support it and those that do often seem to involve converting to lesser resolutions and CRAY super computers for 5 minute clips. Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support. God knows how long 60 minutes of my unborn son giggling is going to take to edit. Probably even longer than what it feels like for family and friends to watch ;) Anyone worked with AVCHD? Most of the time I'll be archiving to external HDs and putting up 5 minute clips to Vimeo for my folks back home to see. Occasionally I'll want to watch it on my Sony HDTV. And hey, if George Lucas can get Jar Jar Binks onto a gazillion cinema screens I have a pretty good chance. I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated? (It's tough having my problems. :rolleyes: )
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support.
On AVS Forum, reply to: 'Be careful when using FCE4 to read your movies onto your Apple, I hear they convert the AVCHD into Apple's intermediate format, which can produce losses' #1135[^]
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
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I'm still trying to hock a kidney to afford a Canon HF100 (how annoying is it that a camera costing US$1000 costs €1000.) One concern is this blasted AVCHD format. Apparently it is a dog to edit. Not many apps support it and those that do often seem to involve converting to lesser resolutions and CRAY super computers for 5 minute clips. Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support. God knows how long 60 minutes of my unborn son giggling is going to take to edit. Probably even longer than what it feels like for family and friends to watch ;) Anyone worked with AVCHD? Most of the time I'll be archiving to external HDs and putting up 5 minute clips to Vimeo for my folks back home to see. Occasionally I'll want to watch it on my Sony HDTV. And hey, if George Lucas can get Jar Jar Binks onto a gazillion cinema screens I have a pretty good chance. I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated? (It's tough having my problems. :rolleyes: )
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Canon HF100
I made the step and bought a CANON HF10 (not 100), so the one with integrated Flash, because: - I find recording on DVD simply not handy. - HDs is nothing for me (due to shocks and knowing my wife not being very careful and so) - Flash is simply too easy. - Reviews say it is the best Camcorder on the market. I bought it in the UK (Internet) for 700€, including shipping. LTIC you were not so far from there :-) . It records in NTSC format (so not european PAL/SECAM), but I do not think that matters anymore (unless you want to burn DVDs in PAL for PAL DVD readers). AFAIK, AVCHD cannot be viewed anywhere but on a PC for the moment, so forget the HDTV (or maybe with quality loss). And I confirm that it is a PITA to edit. But for the moment, I do not care. And I am waiting for the technology to evolve to be able to cope with that later.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb -
Paul Watson wrote:
Canon HF100
I made the step and bought a CANON HF10 (not 100), so the one with integrated Flash, because: - I find recording on DVD simply not handy. - HDs is nothing for me (due to shocks and knowing my wife not being very careful and so) - Flash is simply too easy. - Reviews say it is the best Camcorder on the market. I bought it in the UK (Internet) for 700€, including shipping. LTIC you were not so far from there :-) . It records in NTSC format (so not european PAL/SECAM), but I do not think that matters anymore (unless you want to burn DVDs in PAL for PAL DVD readers). AFAIK, AVCHD cannot be viewed anywhere but on a PC for the moment, so forget the HDTV (or maybe with quality loss). And I confirm that it is a PITA to edit. But for the moment, I do not care. And I am waiting for the technology to evolve to be able to cope with that later.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverbGot any negative points on the HF10? Image quality what you expected? What is the battery life like in real use? What are you doing with your video files now, transferring to PC and... ?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support.
On AVS Forum, reply to: 'Be careful when using FCE4 to read your movies onto your Apple, I hear they convert the AVCHD into Apple's intermediate format, which can produce losses' #1135[^]
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
This is so confusing. Another forum I read said that yes, it transfers to AIC but that no information is lost.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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US$1000, try US$640: (amazon - 'Click here to see the price')[^] Wrt AVCHD: i don't think i'd sweat it, editing is only going to get better as more adopt it (which seems to be a done deal). You may also want to look at the Samsung SC-HMX20C [^] Blurb ..[^] Review ...[^] I still think the hf100 is better overall, but the sammy has some nice features. It would be a contender if it had better low-light performance.
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
cmk wrote:
Wrt AVCHD: i don't think i'd sweat it, editing is only going to get better as more adopt it (which seems to be a done deal).
Yeah but AVCHD has been around since mid 2006 and we are now in 2008 still with spotty, bad support. Weird. Makes me wonder if it is a format that will last.
cmk wrote:
You may also want to look at the Samsung SC-HMX20C [^]
That is a very cool looking body. Thanks.
cmk wrote:
US$1000, try US$640: (amazon - 'Click here to see the price')[^]
Be nice if I could order from Amazon US but they won't deliver that to Ireland :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Got any negative points on the HF10? Image quality what you expected? What is the battery life like in real use? What are you doing with your video files now, transferring to PC and... ?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
ot any negative points on the HF10
Not for the moment. But I've been owing it for a week or so.
Paul Watson wrote:
Image quality what you expected?
Yes, awesome.
Paul Watson wrote:
What is the battery life like in real use
About 50 minutes. It states 80 when it is loaded, but you see it decrease quicker than 1 min every min. But 50 minutes are more than I need. I will probably buy another battery though, just in case.
Paul Watson wrote:
What are you doing with your video files now, transferring to PC and... ?
... keep them on one of my 500G hard drive. My computer is quite old now, and I will need to update before being able to edit. I have to say that it is my first camcorder ever, so I cannot compare with other ones.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb -
Paul Watson wrote:
ot any negative points on the HF10
Not for the moment. But I've been owing it for a week or so.
Paul Watson wrote:
Image quality what you expected?
Yes, awesome.
Paul Watson wrote:
What is the battery life like in real use
About 50 minutes. It states 80 when it is loaded, but you see it decrease quicker than 1 min every min. But 50 minutes are more than I need. I will probably buy another battery though, just in case.
Paul Watson wrote:
What are you doing with your video files now, transferring to PC and... ?
... keep them on one of my 500G hard drive. My computer is quite old now, and I will need to update before being able to edit. I have to say that it is my first camcorder ever, so I cannot compare with other ones.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverbThanks Rage. I think I'll get one :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I'm still trying to hock a kidney to afford a Canon HF100 (how annoying is it that a camera costing US$1000 costs €1000.) One concern is this blasted AVCHD format. Apparently it is a dog to edit. Not many apps support it and those that do often seem to involve converting to lesser resolutions and CRAY super computers for 5 minute clips. Best solution so far, for Mac OS X, seems to be Final Cut Express 4.0 which has AVCHD support. God knows how long 60 minutes of my unborn son giggling is going to take to edit. Probably even longer than what it feels like for family and friends to watch ;) Anyone worked with AVCHD? Most of the time I'll be archiving to external HDs and putting up 5 minute clips to Vimeo for my folks back home to see. Occasionally I'll want to watch it on my Sony HDTV. And hey, if George Lucas can get Jar Jar Binks onto a gazillion cinema screens I have a pretty good chance. I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated? (It's tough having my problems. :rolleyes: )
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated?
Because you have a very small group of people all with different needs pulling formats in directions that the average consumer doesn't need either. for instance one of our groups makes sure that the Motion Picture standards also included capabilities of remote distribution of air-to-ground wireless imagery for unmanned air-craft. :) hey, keeps hollywood occupied with wondering what we are up to. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Paul Watson wrote:
I must say, video formats are generally a PITA. Why did they make them so complicated?
Because you have a very small group of people all with different needs pulling formats in directions that the average consumer doesn't need either. for instance one of our groups makes sure that the Motion Picture standards also included capabilities of remote distribution of air-to-ground wireless imagery for unmanned air-craft. :) hey, keeps hollywood occupied with wondering what we are up to. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
El Corazon wrote:
for instance one of our groups makes sure that the Motion Picture standards also included capabilities of remote distribution of air-to-ground wireless imagery for unmanned air-craft. [Smile] hey, keeps hollywood occupied with wondering what we are up to.
Cool, I love that guy. I want to mount my Canon HF100 to a kite...
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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El Corazon wrote:
for instance one of our groups makes sure that the Motion Picture standards also included capabilities of remote distribution of air-to-ground wireless imagery for unmanned air-craft. [Smile] hey, keeps hollywood occupied with wondering what we are up to.
Cool, I love that guy. I want to mount my Canon HF100 to a kite...
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
I want to mount my Canon HF100 to a kite...
piece of cake... precision GPS monitoring of position, high precision tilt meter for orientation and telemetry downlink will run you more than your camera though. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Paul Watson wrote:
I want to mount my Canon HF100 to a kite...
piece of cake... precision GPS monitoring of position, high precision tilt meter for orientation and telemetry downlink will run you more than your camera though. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
El Corazon wrote:
precision GPS monitoring of position, high precision tilt meter for orientation and telemetry downlink will run you more than your camera though.
I was thinking a length of string, some wood and a bin liner... :-D (Actually a co-worker and I are thinking of building a WiFi hot-spot blimp which self-positions via GPS. Just for a bit of fun...)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.