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  • T Thunderbox666

    So over the last few days/nights, I have been talking to a few Americans and some poms. I didnt realise just how different the phrases and sayings we all have are. For instance, one of the people I was talking to had said he had tried to call me but I didnt answer. I told him that "I was on the road at the time" as in I was driving at the time. In the most puzzled voice, he asked me why I was on the road. I thought in this age of world wide communications this would not be as big an issue


    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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    hairy_hats
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    One that bugs me is the US's "I could care less", which makes no sense against the UK's "I couldn't care less". The UK one means that you already care so little that you couldn't care any less, whereas the US one...doesn't (taken literally anyway).

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      It's the differences that make us interesting. I'm amazed we have so much of the language in common anyway. When I talk to people from the north of England there seem to be a lot more differences than someone from the other side of the globe!

      The tragedy of your times is that you may get exactly what you want!

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      websplee
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      That was exactly God's way of putting things. If we could all communicate and understand each other say...using VB, this would have been a terrible world! :laugh:

      With God, all things are possible.

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        Heh, yeah - there's certainly enough of that just going from state to state here... i'll not forget the look of disappointment on my wife's face the first time i told her i was making "barbecues"... and then proceeded to fill rolls with a ground hamburger mixture. :-\ BTW - i haven't encountered the non-fowl "grouse"; what's that then?

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        • C Christian Graus

          There's a huge list of words these yanks don't know. chook ute tip lolly you name it. The other day my business partner was incredulous when I said something was 'just like a bought one'

          Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          Macca
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          That reminds me of when I was traveling through Yellowstone National Park on a photographic expedition and I met a nice older American couple. I was explaining to them that I had to "get up at a sparrows fart" to get the dawn shots that I wanted. All of a sudden their eyes glazed over (as if staring off into the distance), eyebrows furrowed in and a general blankness crept across their face, as if all the colour had been drained. Needless to say it killed the conversation, and when I left a few minutes later they were still standing there trying to figure out if I had said something meaningful, insightful or insulting.

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          • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

            It's is - and I'm from the North East, where we know a thing or two about wacky vernicular. Have ya fixed that kludgie yet?? ;)

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

            Have ya fixed that kludgie yet??

            You must have esp also! The MD and I tried to fix it but all we managed to do was break the cistern lid (or rather he did). I tried to tell him that plumbing was not in my arsenal.

            The tragedy of your times is that you may get exactly what you want!

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            • C Christian Graus

              There's a huge list of words these yanks don't know. chook ute tip lolly you name it. The other day my business partner was incredulous when I said something was 'just like a bought one'

              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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              Kizul Emeraldfire
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              I'd think 'lolly' would be 'lollipop' — other than that, I have no idea what the words you used mean. :p

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              • C Christian Graus

                There's a huge list of words these yanks don't know. chook ute tip lolly you name it. The other day my business partner was incredulous when I said something was 'just like a bought one'

                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                Zhat
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                Hmmm: Well, those "words" in Oz are just different words in other countries, with the same meaning, such as chook; A yard bird Try these: Trill Yay fo' shizzle my nizzle (an oldie but goodie) not just yanks I guess... :-D

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                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                  Have ya fixed that kludgie yet??

                  You must have esp also! The MD and I tried to fix it but all we managed to do was break the cistern lid (or rather he did). I tried to tell him that plumbing was not in my arsenal.

                  The tragedy of your times is that you may get exactly what you want!

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  Member 4604561 wrote:

                  You must have esp also!

                  That'll be the stotty cakes, then. ;P

                  Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                  • T Thunderbox666

                    So over the last few days/nights, I have been talking to a few Americans and some poms. I didnt realise just how different the phrases and sayings we all have are. For instance, one of the people I was talking to had said he had tried to call me but I didnt answer. I told him that "I was on the road at the time" as in I was driving at the time. In the most puzzled voice, he asked me why I was on the road. I thought in this age of world wide communications this would not be as big an issue


                    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                    I part time moderated in a small international chat room. The list of mutually misunderstood or unique words is pretty large. But my favorite is "shag" :laugh: . Particularly since where I lived , it's beach dancing. So asking a lady to shag is not quite the same in the UK. :doh:

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                    • T Thunderbox666

                      So over the last few days/nights, I have been talking to a few Americans and some poms. I didnt realise just how different the phrases and sayings we all have are. For instance, one of the people I was talking to had said he had tried to call me but I didnt answer. I told him that "I was on the road at the time" as in I was driving at the time. In the most puzzled voice, he asked me why I was on the road. I thought in this age of world wide communications this would not be as big an issue


                      "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                      I part time moderated in a small international chat room. The list of mutually misunderstood or unique words is pretty large. But my favorite is "shag" :laugh: . Particularly since where I lived , it's beach dancing. So asking a lady to shag is not quite the same in the UK. :doh: ........

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        leckey wrote:

                        they were trying to call my cat with "PUSS PUSS PUSS PUSS!"

                        Why is that strange? We say that in South Africa. Pussy cat, pussy, puss. My friends cat was named Puss Puss.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        leckey 0
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                        "Pussy" has two negative meanings in the US. One is slang about the lower part of the female anatomy. You hear in in US pornos a lot. The second is calling a man a "pussy" means he's basically a girl or a weakling. If you used the term in school you would get sent to the front office.

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                          "Pussy" has two negative meanings in the US. One is slang about the lower part of the female anatomy. You hear in in US pornos a lot. The second is calling a man a "pussy" means he's basically a girl or a weakling. If you used the term in school you would get sent to the front office.

                          Holidays! (June 13th) http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Ah sure, that has crossed over to Europe but when you are using it to talk about a cat most mature people don't have a problem. Kids snigger of course :)

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                          • S Shog9 0

                            Heh, yeah - there's certainly enough of that just going from state to state here... i'll not forget the look of disappointment on my wife's face the first time i told her i was making "barbecues"... and then proceeded to fill rolls with a ground hamburger mixture. :-\ BTW - i haven't encountered the non-fowl "grouse"; what's that then?

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                            That is NOT barbecue ... geez Did you slap some ketchup on it and call that sauce ;-) :-D I thought it was interesting when I first traveled north (in the US) and in the restaurant's the first thing all the waitresses ask was "You-all-set" (as if it was one word) ... I thought to myself all set for what? Now with the "normalization" of America (everything, everywhere is beginning to look the same) you have to ask for "sweet tea" in restaurant's in the south ... it use to be all you had to ask for was tea and people had sense enough to bring you a glass of tea flavored sugar syrup over ice. Now you have to ask for "sweet tea" and still sometimes a waitron will say "we have sugar on the table" (they just don't get that whole super saturation thing). Well tuck em in if they are hanging out and keep your head down and your tail up and never ask an American if he's packing a fag because it won't end well.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              There's a huge list of words these yanks don't know. chook ute tip lolly you name it. The other day my business partner was incredulous when I said something was 'just like a bought one'

                              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                              Bud Simpson
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                              Ha! Chook... wasn't he the guy in Muriel's wedding that got, er, uh, nevermind.

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                              • M Macca

                                That reminds me of when I was traveling through Yellowstone National Park on a photographic expedition and I met a nice older American couple. I was explaining to them that I had to "get up at a sparrows fart" to get the dawn shots that I wanted. All of a sudden their eyes glazed over (as if staring off into the distance), eyebrows furrowed in and a general blankness crept across their face, as if all the colour had been drained. Needless to say it killed the conversation, and when I left a few minutes later they were still standing there trying to figure out if I had said something meaningful, insightful or insulting.

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                                Kent K
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                                :laugh: Hadn't heard that one before, I think I'll use it the next opportunity I get.

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                                  "Pussy" has two negative meanings in the US. One is slang about the lower part of the female anatomy. You hear in in US pornos a lot. The second is calling a man a "pussy" means he's basically a girl or a weakling. If you used the term in school you would get sent to the front office.

                                  Holidays! (June 13th) http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                  Kent K
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                                  I agree. Except, regarding the subject of the first use as an alternative meaning I wouldn't characterize it as "negative" :-O (I know, I know though, it could be to some people I guess. . .).

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                                  • H hairy_hats

                                    One that bugs me is the US's "I could care less", which makes no sense against the UK's "I couldn't care less". The UK one means that you already care so little that you couldn't care any less, whereas the US one...doesn't (taken literally anyway).

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                                    Wow, I never realized that (living in the US and have definitely said that)!! It doesn't fit the meaning at all for sure, the US way of saying it.

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                                      That is NOT barbecue ... geez Did you slap some ketchup on it and call that sauce ;-) :-D I thought it was interesting when I first traveled north (in the US) and in the restaurant's the first thing all the waitresses ask was "You-all-set" (as if it was one word) ... I thought to myself all set for what? Now with the "normalization" of America (everything, everywhere is beginning to look the same) you have to ask for "sweet tea" in restaurant's in the south ... it use to be all you had to ask for was tea and people had sense enough to bring you a glass of tea flavored sugar syrup over ice. Now you have to ask for "sweet tea" and still sometimes a waitron will say "we have sugar on the table" (they just don't get that whole super saturation thing). Well tuck em in if they are hanging out and keep your head down and your tail up and never ask an American if he's packing a fag because it won't end well.

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                                      Speaking of Sauce. In California where I grew up and worked the first part of my twenties, I could go to any fast food place (or dennys style restaurant like place) and order a burger (or chicken sandwich) with no sauce and the employees of said establishment would know that meant no ketchup, mustard, mayo, tartar sauce or anything like that. Now, I live in Arizona and nearly every time I ask for no sauce, I get a puzzled look and a typical reply of "um, so, no tomato?" or "so, plain?". I almost always have to explain exactly what it is I mean by no sauce. Another reply is "we don't put sauce on it, only mustard and ketchup". Then, my reply to their reply would be "so, what do you consider sauce" and their reply would be another puzzled look. It's been a frustrating transition. If I do get someone who seems to understand what I mean by no sauce, then my sandwich usually comes completely plain (no lettuce, tomato, pickles or anything else).

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                                        That is NOT barbecue ... geez Did you slap some ketchup on it and call that sauce ;-) :-D I thought it was interesting when I first traveled north (in the US) and in the restaurant's the first thing all the waitresses ask was "You-all-set" (as if it was one word) ... I thought to myself all set for what? Now with the "normalization" of America (everything, everywhere is beginning to look the same) you have to ask for "sweet tea" in restaurant's in the south ... it use to be all you had to ask for was tea and people had sense enough to bring you a glass of tea flavored sugar syrup over ice. Now you have to ask for "sweet tea" and still sometimes a waitron will say "we have sugar on the table" (they just don't get that whole super saturation thing). Well tuck em in if they are hanging out and keep your head down and your tail up and never ask an American if he's packing a fag because it won't end well.

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                                        Trevortni
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                                        grgran wrote:

                                        Well tuck em in if they are hanging out and keep your head down and your tail up and never ask an American if he's packing a fag because it won't end well.

                                        DON'T SMOKE AROUND ME! ZOMFG!! A SMOKER!! A SMOKER!! DON'T YOU KNOW HOW BAD SMOKING IS ON EVERYONE AROUND - What? You're just looking for gay guys? Oh, no problem, let's go. Just don't ask them for a fag.

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                                        • J jim norcal

                                          Speaking of Sauce. In California where I grew up and worked the first part of my twenties, I could go to any fast food place (or dennys style restaurant like place) and order a burger (or chicken sandwich) with no sauce and the employees of said establishment would know that meant no ketchup, mustard, mayo, tartar sauce or anything like that. Now, I live in Arizona and nearly every time I ask for no sauce, I get a puzzled look and a typical reply of "um, so, no tomato?" or "so, plain?". I almost always have to explain exactly what it is I mean by no sauce. Another reply is "we don't put sauce on it, only mustard and ketchup". Then, my reply to their reply would be "so, what do you consider sauce" and their reply would be another puzzled look. It's been a frustrating transition. If I do get someone who seems to understand what I mean by no sauce, then my sandwich usually comes completely plain (no lettuce, tomato, pickles or anything else).

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                                          Trevortni
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                                          I find it generally works best to just start with "plain" and then add the stuff I do want from there.

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