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  • B blakey404

    Have you eliminated this guy or have you opened/freed up a resource (ie him) to be used elsewhere?

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    Richard Jones
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    That's it. He's not being downsized, he's been opportunitied.

    "Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit..." "There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain..."

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    • B blakey404

      Have you eliminated this guy or have you opened/freed up a resource (ie him) to be used elsewhere?

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      Eurosid
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      blakey404 wrote:

      Have you eliminated this guy or have you opened/freed up a resource (ie him) to be used elsewhere?

      We have been told to expect 15% headcount reduction in the next 60 days. He's gone.

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      • E Eurosid

        I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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        Simon P Stevens
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        Much of the work I do will reduce the workload on certain teams to the point that some people will not be required. However none of them will be fired or anything like that, rather their tasks will be adjusted to fit in with new processes. Will the guy you're referring too be given the chance to find himself a place within the new structure?

        Simon

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        • E Eurosid

          blakey404 wrote:

          Have you eliminated this guy or have you opened/freed up a resource (ie him) to be used elsewhere?

          We have been told to expect 15% headcount reduction in the next 60 days. He's gone.

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          blakey404
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          that sucks. poor guy.

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          • E Eurosid

            I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            A computer programmers job is to reduce manpower required to perform tasks. (This is true in 99.9% of cases) I have eliminated a lot of people in my career. I suppose it could get to me but if I don't do it then I wouldn't have a job.

            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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            • E Eurosid

              blakey404 wrote:

              Have you eliminated this guy or have you opened/freed up a resource (ie him) to be used elsewhere?

              We have been told to expect 15% headcount reduction in the next 60 days. He's gone.

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              Simon P Stevens
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              Harsh. If it was me I'd be thinking about looking for a new job myself. Even if your not one of the ones who will be let go, the company is clearly struggling so you might be in the next round of redundancies, or worse, the company might just disappear one day and stop paying you!

              Simon

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                A computer programmers job is to reduce manpower required to perform tasks. (This is true in 99.9% of cases) I have eliminated a lot of people in my career. I suppose it could get to me but if I don't do it then I wouldn't have a job.

                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                I have eliminated a lot of people in my career.

                I hope you mean you eliminated their jobs :~

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                • E Eurosid

                  I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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                  Bert delaVega
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                  It sucks but that's how it is. Without outright telling him, you can start him thinking that he should be prepared. If staff reductions are happening soon, just some casual "what if" conversation may get him at least thinking about it, if he's not already. Just don't overstep and tell him. That could compromise your standing and cause all types of turmoil.

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                    I have eliminated a lot of people in my career.

                    I hope you mean you eliminated their jobs :~

                    Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    Potato, potato. (Doesn't work as well in writing)

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                    • E Eurosid

                      I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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                      Yusuf
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                      that sucks. while this the case, I would look over my shoulder how this will affect you too.:~

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                      • E Eurosid

                        I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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                        Diego Moita
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                        Eurosid wrote:

                        he will be gone.

                        He's not the only one. Once all tasks are automated and your work is no longer necessary you'll be gone too. That's the price of fast technological changes: no one is safe, only the paranoid survive, etc, etc,... So, are you also ready to look for a new job?


                        Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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                        • B Bert delaVega

                          It sucks but that's how it is. Without outright telling him, you can start him thinking that he should be prepared. If staff reductions are happening soon, just some casual "what if" conversation may get him at least thinking about it, if he's not already. Just don't overstep and tell him. That could compromise your standing and cause all types of turmoil.

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                          leppie
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                          Damn it feels good to be a gangster ;P

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            Potato, potato. (Doesn't work as well in writing)

                            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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                            Dan Neely
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                            What does it say about me that I read mentally it as 'Poe-tay-toe, Pah-tah-toe'?

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                              What does it say about me that I read mentally it as 'Poe-tay-toe, Pah-tah-toe'?

                              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              And to think, many of the people who understand that still think the American Civil War was about slavery and that the confederate battle flag is racist. Of course that is an argument better left unhad on CP.

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                              • E Eurosid

                                I've been working to automate some tasks at my job. Now I realize my assignments will eliminate one guy's entire job. I know we will be eliminating a lot of jobs in next 2 months, he will be gone. I am supposed to keep this quiet, but I see this guy every day. :(

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                                MrPlankton
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                                Don't sweat it. There's a babe in HR who just discovered rent-a-coder, and the value of foriegn national interns so your on your way out. Someone in office of management has just discovered that they can out source the HR babe to Keen administrative services. Someone on the board has decided your CEO is not meeting stock holder expectations and he will soon be replaced. It all evens out in the end. We were talking about your company right?:confused: Or was it mine? :)

                                MrPlankton

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  Potato, potato. (Doesn't work as well in writing)

                                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                  Potato, potato. (Doesn't work as well in writing)

                                  :laugh: LOL, no, it looks very sad and funny. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                                  • B Bert delaVega

                                    It sucks but that's how it is. Without outright telling him, you can start him thinking that he should be prepared. If staff reductions are happening soon, just some casual "what if" conversation may get him at least thinking about it, if he's not already. Just don't overstep and tell him. That could compromise your standing and cause all types of turmoil.

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    Bert delaVega wrote:

                                    some casual "what if" conversation may get him at least thinking about it

                                    Just hope he doesn't start crying on your shoulder. :sigh:

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                                    • D Diego Moita

                                      Eurosid wrote:

                                      he will be gone.

                                      He's not the only one. Once all tasks are automated and your work is no longer necessary you'll be gone too. That's the price of fast technological changes: no one is safe, only the paranoid survive, etc, etc,... So, are you also ready to look for a new job?


                                      Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      My supervisor in my first programming gig always maintained that in IT, it is our goal to do ourselves out of a job.

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                                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                        A computer programmers job is to reduce manpower required to perform tasks. (This is true in 99.9% of cases) I have eliminated a lot of people in my career. I suppose it could get to me but if I don't do it then I wouldn't have a job.

                                        Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                        Xiangyang Liu
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                                        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                        I have eliminated a lot of people in my career.

                                        The CP Serial Killer finally confessed. :)

                                        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                        if I don't do it then I wouldn't have a job.

                                        With motives, too. :)

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          Bert delaVega wrote:

                                          some casual "what if" conversation may get him at least thinking about it

                                          Just hope he doesn't start crying on your shoulder. :sigh:

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                                          Bert delaVega
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                                          I had to fire a guy once who's wife didn't work, had 2 little kids and they had just relocated for the position a few months earlier. That was tough. And I knew about it for two weeks beforehand. He lied about his qualifications and experience. I felt bad for two weeks and after firing him and giving him a big speech on why you shouldn't oversell youself and not meet expectation, the bastard BS'd his way into a better job somewhere else! :laugh:

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