What to make of the vast void of silence
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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So if the article just had "A Model-View-Controller Design" as it's title would that have caught your interest? What difference does it make whether or not it's using the VCF? Haven't you just judged a book by it's cover without ever even glancing at it's content? Isn't that what developers regularly bitch and moan about others doing? I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time. Which is a shame, but that's life.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time. Which is a shame, but that's life.
No it doesn't. It just says you need to let people know why they should use the framework. I've said it before - get a 60 second spiel and sell that message. I've looked at your VCF framework, and I like the look of it. Unfortunately, in this case, I don't have much need for it because I work exclusively in .NET, but if we ever move back to C++ then I would certainly take a more indepth look at it.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time. Which is a shame, but that's life.
No it doesn't. It just says you need to let people know why they should use the framework. I've said it before - get a 60 second spiel and sell that message. I've looked at your VCF framework, and I like the look of it. Unfortunately, in this case, I don't have much need for it because I work exclusively in .NET, but if we ever move back to C++ then I would certainly take a more indepth look at it.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Perhaps drop the cross platform aspect of it, and emphasize the ease of use? That it's (probably) an order of a magnitude easier to write windows apps with the VCF than it is with MFC or WTL, plus, for larger scale applications, you get a large set of built in features that are useful in day to day development that are not present in MFC or WTL, or even, in some cases, .Net.
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Perhaps drop the cross platform aspect of it, and emphasize the ease of use? That it's (probably) an order of a magnitude easier to write windows apps with the VCF than it is with MFC or WTL, plus, for larger scale applications, you get a large set of built in features that are useful in day to day development that are not present in MFC or WTL, or even, in some cases, .Net.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Perhaps drop the cross platform aspect of it
No - that's a plus point.
Jim Crafton wrote:
emphasize the ease of use?
Definitely.
Jim Crafton wrote:
it's (probably) an order of a magnitude easier to write windows apps with the VCF than it is with MFC or WTL, plus, for larger scale applications, you get a large set of built in features that are useful in day to day development that are not present in MFC or WTL, or even, in some cases, .Net.
I'm with you there, but you need to expand on the type of cases where it's better than .NET. The biggest weakness you've got is people are doing a lot more development for the web, so there's marginally less interest in desktop frameworks now.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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So if the article just had "A Model-View-Controller Design" as it's title would that have caught your interest? What difference does it make whether or not it's using the VCF? Haven't you just judged a book by it's cover without ever even glancing at it's content? Isn't that what developers regularly bitch and moan about others doing? I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time. Which is a shame, but that's life.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
So if the article just had "A Model-View-Controller Design" as it's title would that have caught your interest?
Yup.
Jim Crafton wrote:
What difference does it make whether or not it's using the VCF?
Because it implies the article will require that I know and/or use a framework. Whether that's true or not is irrelevent - that's the feeling the title gives.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Haven't you just judged a book by it's cover
Yes! In fact, that's exactly what dust jackets on books are for - attracting attention (the book covers themselves are pretty boring). The article list works the same way. It lets people ignore the articles that don't interest them. Make your title one that hooks people's interest and you'll get a lot more people reading your articles.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Isn't that what developers regularly bitch and moan about others doing?
Maybe, but that's reality. Your title markets your article, like it or not.
Jim Crafton wrote:
I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time.
Not at all. What it means is that your expectations could be too high. You're preaching to the world and expecting the same response as though you're preaching to the choir. If you're interested in getting more readers I suggest lowering the significance of the VCF in your articles. Remove it from the title and show how you can use the MVC pattern, for instance, in general and then how you could use it with the VCF. Even then, though, the MVC topic has been done a lot lately so I wouldn't expect a huge response. Sexier topics that include VCF and MVC as secondary features are going to get a lot more bites. Cheers, Drew.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
So if the article just had "A Model-View-Controller Design" as it's title would that have caught your interest?
Yup.
Jim Crafton wrote:
What difference does it make whether or not it's using the VCF?
Because it implies the article will require that I know and/or use a framework. Whether that's true or not is irrelevent - that's the feeling the title gives.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Haven't you just judged a book by it's cover
Yes! In fact, that's exactly what dust jackets on books are for - attracting attention (the book covers themselves are pretty boring). The article list works the same way. It lets people ignore the articles that don't interest them. Make your title one that hooks people's interest and you'll get a lot more people reading your articles.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Isn't that what developers regularly bitch and moan about others doing?
Maybe, but that's reality. Your title markets your article, like it or not.
Jim Crafton wrote:
I suppose what this really tells me is that, other than myself and my own usage, the VCF is a total waste of time.
Not at all. What it means is that your expectations could be too high. You're preaching to the world and expecting the same response as though you're preaching to the choir. If you're interested in getting more readers I suggest lowering the significance of the VCF in your articles. Remove it from the title and show how you can use the MVC pattern, for instance, in general and then how you could use it with the VCF. Even then, though, the MVC topic has been done a lot lately so I wouldn't expect a huge response. Sexier topics that include VCF and MVC as secondary features are going to get a lot more bites. Cheers, Drew.
Drew Stainton wrote:
Sexier topics that include VCF and MVC as secondary features are going to get a lot more bites.
It's going to be tricky writing a WPF article that doesn't use WPF.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Drew Stainton wrote:
Sexier topics that include VCF and MVC as secondary features are going to get a lot more bites.
It's going to be tricky writing a WPF article that doesn't use WPF.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
why I'm even bothering.
Heh, I've lost count of how many times I've asked myself that, what with univoters and unappreciative comments. In the end, I always come back to the same thing: I'm doing it to repay CP for what I've gotten here, but I'm also doing it for myself. Writing articles has been reward in itself, because of what I learn in writing them, and what I learn in other, less direct ways. I hope you will reconsider.
Best wishes, Hans
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
If you're writing articles for praise and reviews, you're doing it for the wrong reason. You should write articles because you like to write and enjoy knowing that you're helping someone. If you get a comment - great - but don't expect a pat on the back. While the internet is great for getting immediate feedback, the feedback is often negative, irrelevant, or completely absent (despite lots of page views). Ratings are similar - some readers don't understand your article for whatever reason and give it a low rating - others just don't rate or make it a point to rate low. Keep writing and build your online persona/voice. It's cool to see other people citing your work (after it has been around for a while) or hitting your article from Google when you're actually looking for something else. If you plan to write a book, the articles you publish here are good material for publishers to assess your style and, often more importantly, you perseverance. Writing, like life, is what you make of it - enjoy it just because you can do it :)
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Really though, no one except you uses VCF here. If your articles, say were about MFC, a lot more people would like it because MFC is dominant here.
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