Source control and roaming the glens...
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
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Iain Clarke wrote:
would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence?
you lock the file... SVN can do that AFAIK
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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HarveySaayman wrote:
you lock the file
:omg: and prevent everybody to check in their changes while you are away ?? No, leppie is right, Make your changes locally annd merge when you are back.
keyword in the original message is PREVENT, and locking the file will do exactly that :) i never said its the best solution for the problem but it does meet the presented requirements :rolleyes:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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keyword in the original message is PREVENT, and locking the file will do exactly that :) i never said its the best solution for the problem but it does meet the presented requirements :rolleyes:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
you.suck = (you.passion != Programming)HarveySaayman wrote:
keyword in the original message is PREVENT,
Well, I read it as : will it prevent colleagues from working, e.g. is this a _bad_ idea ? In which case your proposition does the exact opposite thing to the only requirement he was demanding ;P :)
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HarveySaayman wrote:
keyword in the original message is PREVENT,
Well, I read it as : will it prevent colleagues from working, e.g. is this a _bad_ idea ? In which case your proposition does the exact opposite thing to the only requirement he was demanding ;P :)
Yes, you read it correctly. I had to double check though - I wouldn't put it past me to make dumb mistakes... Iain.
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Use something like bzr or SVN locally, then merge changes when you get back.
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IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)Not heard of bzr - will have to do a little diggin'. Iain.
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HarveySaayman wrote:
keyword in the original message is PREVENT,
Well, I read it as : will it prevent colleagues from working, e.g. is this a _bad_ idea ? In which case your proposition does the exact opposite thing to the only requirement he was demanding ;P :)
oops :) my bad damn my speed reading :-O
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
We use ClearCase, and each developer working on new features uses a different branch for development. This won't block others from checking out the file while you're gone, even though you have it checked out (but on a different branch). When you get back, it's a simple matter to merge things back to the mainline code after it's been tested and ready for the wild.
Karl - WK5M PP-ASEL-IA (N43CS) PGP Key: 0xDB02E193 PGP Key Fingerprint: 8F06 5A2E 2735 892B 821C 871A 0411 94EA DB02 E193
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We use ClearCase, and each developer working on new features uses a different branch for development. This won't block others from checking out the file while you're gone, even though you have it checked out (but on a different branch). When you get back, it's a simple matter to merge things back to the mainline code after it's been tested and ready for the wild.
Karl - WK5M PP-ASEL-IA (N43CS) PGP Key: 0xDB02E193 PGP Key Fingerprint: 8F06 5A2E 2735 892B 821C 871A 0411 94EA DB02 E193
So, maybe I'm just being overworried, and it's a non-issue... Wouldn't be the first time. Like dipping your toe in a cold pool. Iain.
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We use ClearCase, and each developer working on new features uses a different branch for development. This won't block others from checking out the file while you're gone, even though you have it checked out (but on a different branch). When you get back, it's a simple matter to merge things back to the mainline code after it's been tested and ready for the wild.
Karl - WK5M PP-ASEL-IA (N43CS) PGP Key: 0xDB02E193 PGP Key Fingerprint: 8F06 5A2E 2735 892B 821C 871A 0411 94EA DB02 E193
krmed wrote:
it's a simple matter to merge things back to the mainline code
That statement can only be true for the most degenerate cases, where the components that the separate users are working on are completely separate and have static, well-defined interfaces to other components.
Software Zen:
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
Use the source controls branching feature then merge when you get back.
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
In our case, the developer took a copy of the working code with him on the laptop and made his changes locally. After he got back, he carefully merged his changes in with the rest of the code. He was lost in the outback of southern France for a while :rolleyes:.
Software Zen:
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
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In our case, the developer took a copy of the working code with him on the laptop and made his changes locally. After he got back, he carefully merged his changes in with the rest of the code. He was lost in the outback of southern France for a while :rolleyes:.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
He was lost in the outback of southern France for a while
I can think of worse places to be stuck. You sure he was having lots of difficulties that required him to stay on site? And weren't you suspicious when he didn't get phone reception...? Iain. Bonnie Tyler: Lost in France. I was lost in France In the fields the birds were singing I was lost in France And the day was just beginning As I stood there in the morning rain I had a feeling I can't explain I was lost in France in love I was lost in France In the street a band was playing And the crowd all danced Didn't catch what they were saying When I looked up he was standing there And I knew I shouldn't but I didn't care I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing I was lost in France And the vines were over-flowing I was lost in France And a million stars were glowing And I looked round for a telephone To say 'baby I won't be home' I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing And I looked round for a telephone To say 'baby I won't be home' I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing...
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
He was lost in the outback of southern France for a while
I can think of worse places to be stuck. You sure he was having lots of difficulties that required him to stay on site? And weren't you suspicious when he didn't get phone reception...? Iain. Bonnie Tyler: Lost in France. I was lost in France In the fields the birds were singing I was lost in France And the day was just beginning As I stood there in the morning rain I had a feeling I can't explain I was lost in France in love I was lost in France In the street a band was playing And the crowd all danced Didn't catch what they were saying When I looked up he was standing there And I knew I shouldn't but I didn't care I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing I was lost in France And the vines were over-flowing I was lost in France And a million stars were glowing And I looked round for a telephone To say 'baby I won't be home' I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing And I looked round for a telephone To say 'baby I won't be home' I was lost in France in love Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing Ooh la la la Ooh la la la dance Ooh la la la dancing...
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
He does keep mumbling something about Marseille, beaches, and pastis...
Software Zen:
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
Iain Clarke wrote:
If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence?
SVN doesn't lock files on checkout by default, which is a good thing. Your colleagues can do all the simultaneous edits they want. It comes down to when people commit back to the repo, SVN will then check for differences between your working copy and the repo. In your situation, as Trollslayer and others said, branch. Then merge when you get back. BTW you can also contribute patches over email to SVN repos.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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A question came up at work recently, though I've thought about before. You have a nice shiny source control system, and many happy developers at code headquarters. But you need to take your laptop and go to a customers site in the deep arctic, and internet access there is limited at best, and you can only borrow a pc to check your email. You'll be there for a few weeks, and for nothing better to do, will be writing a feature or two in the software, or may need to tweak it to match immediate customer demands. How would that work with source control? If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence? Your's knowing-source-control-is-a-Good-Thing-but-has-some-conceptual-hurdles, Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
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OK, that means absolutely nothing to me (not in this context anyways). This thread is showing more and more of my ignorance. Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
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Iain Clarke wrote:
If you checked out the code, would that prevent colleagues from working on it in your absence?
SVN doesn't lock files on checkout by default, which is a good thing. Your colleagues can do all the simultaneous edits they want. It comes down to when people commit back to the repo, SVN will then check for differences between your working copy and the repo. In your situation, as Trollslayer and others said, branch. Then merge when you get back. BTW you can also contribute patches over email to SVN repos.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Another point of ignorance exposed. If I can just do a chunky checkout, then merge on return without stepping on too many toes, the problem goes away. I had understood checkout to be more of a locking activity than it apparently is! And emailling back changes could be a handy trick. Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.
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OK, that means absolutely nothing to me (not in this context anyways). This thread is showing more and more of my ignorance. Iain.
Plz sir... CPallini CPallini abuz drugz, plz plz help urgent.