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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
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I've also had that problem in VS2005 as well, its frustrating as h*ll! Mike
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At one point last year, I decided to switch from my own designer (based on an article here on CP) to the .NET 2.0 designer. Sure, that gave me some benefits, like the automatic alignment stuff that I actually like, but other things broke. For example, I still haven't figured out how to tell the designer to select a tab page in a tab control. There are some things that are very clearly lacking in the .NET designer, which must have required the MS programmers to implement some really annoying workarounds to get the designer in VS to actually be usable. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
For example, I still haven't figured out how to tell the designer to select a tab page in a tab control.
I just click on an empty area of the tab page, and it works for me. You can also use the combo list at the top of the properties window :)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
For example, I still haven't figured out how to tell the designer to select a tab page in a tab control.
I just click on an empty area of the tab page, and it works for me. You can also use the combo list at the top of the properties window :)
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Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:
I just click on an empty area of the tab page, and it works for me.
Well, what I mean is, it works fine in the VS IDE, but when I host the form designer in my own app, it doesn't. Marc
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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
?! I can't say I've ever stumbled upon that, especially as others in this thread say they've seen this all the way back in VS 2003. What are the exact steps? I've just tried this: - create a new form - add two buttons - select one of them - change a property (eg, its caption) - click on the other button on the form At this point the Properties window shows the properties for the second control, and I'm not seeing any click event handler...
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?! I can't say I've ever stumbled upon that, especially as others in this thread say they've seen this all the way back in VS 2003. What are the exact steps? I've just tried this: - create a new form - add two buttons - select one of them - change a property (eg, its caption) - click on the other button on the form At this point the Properties window shows the properties for the second control, and I'm not seeing any click event handler...
Try pinning the properties window and repeat. Also, I've noticed that after you've altered the property and pressed enter then clicked on the control then this problem won't happen.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:
I just click on an empty area of the tab page, and it works for me.
Well, what I mean is, it works fine in the VS IDE, but when I host the form designer in my own app, it doesn't. Marc
Have you considered the possibility that, once again, Microsoft is not "eating their own dog food"?
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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
The resource editors have been buggy pieces of sh!t since Visual Studio 2002. If you change focus in some way that they don't expect, they alter the resource in a random way. Setting the tab order in a dialog in VS2003 clears the dialog caption. Single clicks in the wrong place add unwanted event handlers. I've even had opening a resource file crash the IDE, when that same file opened successfully before. The only time I use the resource editor anymore is when I'm creating or editting a dialog. If I'm adding bitmap/icon resources, STRINGTABLEs, or setting the tab order in a dialog, I edit the resource script manually.
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Have you considered the possibility that, once again, Microsoft is not "eating their own dog food"?
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Have you considered the possibility that, once again, Microsoft is not "eating their own dog food"?
Always. :) Marc
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The resource editors have been buggy pieces of sh!t since Visual Studio 2002. If you change focus in some way that they don't expect, they alter the resource in a random way. Setting the tab order in a dialog in VS2003 clears the dialog caption. Single clicks in the wrong place add unwanted event handlers. I've even had opening a resource file crash the IDE, when that same file opened successfully before. The only time I use the resource editor anymore is when I'm creating or editting a dialog. If I'm adding bitmap/icon resources, STRINGTABLEs, or setting the tab order in a dialog, I edit the resource script manually.
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Fold With Us![^]You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do. If yes, then I have no idea what to say.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do. If yes, then I have no idea what to say.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
I suspect it's very much as case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Sad, but not really surprising.
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You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do. If yes, then I have no idea what to say.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
There are significant groups inside Microsoft that have a long and rather public history of using customized toolsets and/or libraries. The device driver group and the Office group are two that immediately come to mind. One can only imagine how many others, less public, there are. I find it hard to believe that other development groups inside Microsoft would tolerate the shoddy craftsmanship in Visual Studio if they were forced to use it day in and day out. I wonder what tools they do use.
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There are significant groups inside Microsoft that have a long and rather public history of using customized toolsets and/or libraries. The device driver group and the Office group are two that immediately come to mind. One can only imagine how many others, less public, there are. I find it hard to believe that other development groups inside Microsoft would tolerate the shoddy craftsmanship in Visual Studio if they were forced to use it day in and day out. I wonder what tools they do use.
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"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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Try pinning the properties window and repeat. Also, I've noticed that after you've altered the property and pressed enter then clicked on the control then this problem won't happen.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
pinning the properties window
Never, not enough real estate for that. Besides when I am using VS I spend most of my time writing code. :-D However, I just tried it and didn't have a problem.
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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
Yes, that is very annoying. Like John said, it happens in VS2005 for me as well, and you'd think MS would have fixed it, unless it is some lame feature they wanted to incorporate :suss:
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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
For the basics make sure you click speed is up to snuff ,mind how you click on a property. I find , that left clicking of focus may do the job. Just another mental reflex to learn.
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You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do. If yes, then I have no idea what to say.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do.
I seem to remember hearing that the Visual Studio group uses Visual Studio. Perhaps that explains something... :~
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Why is it that when you're editing the properties of one control on a VS 2008 form and you click on another control who's properties that you happen to want to change as well, it instantly acts as if you double clicked the thing and creates a click event handler for it? Why? Why can't simple things be done right?
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
oh crap. so vs2008 does that too? I noticed that back in vs2005, and figured that if MS developers use VS for their work, they'd fix it..but alas. oh well.
"impossible" is just an opinion.
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oh crap. so vs2008 does that too? I noticed that back in vs2005, and figured that if MS developers use VS for their work, they'd fix it..but alas. oh well.
"impossible" is just an opinion.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
pinning the properties window
Never, not enough real estate for that. Besides when I am using VS I spend most of my time writing code. :-D However, I just tried it and didn't have a problem.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Never, not enough real estate for that. Besides when I am using VS I spend most of my time writing code.
Very true on both accounts, and like you most of the time I'm doing hardcore coding, but when I get to form design, its easier for me to simply pin the properties menu. This is because almost all the stuff I do (forms wise) is bi-lingual.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
However, I just tried it and didn't have a problem.
You are exceptionally lucky and I envy you :sigh:
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
You know what I wonder about? Whether the MS people actually do use their own products and actually go through the same issues that we do.
I seem to remember hearing that the Visual Studio group uses Visual Studio. Perhaps that explains something... :~
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When I was a young and fresh graduate that had a gleam in his eye every time he heard the name Microsoft and while I was an intern and during my stint working at MS we used VS6 (which in my opinion just ROCKS the pants off of anything I've seen from them since). But I don't know if they still use VS or like Gary said their own custom tools. But yeah, it would explain something if they do use it and its still as is...
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
