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  • R realJSOP

    There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    Christian Graus
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    In the US, does an unlisted number show 'unlisted', or is that not allowed ? At home, they are unlisted, from call centres.

    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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    • R realJSOP

      There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      phannon86
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      Altering the number? Definitely, but completely obscuring it, some people like the privacy. In the UK anyone off any mobile/landline can prevent the person they're calling from seeing their number by simply dialling 141 before the number.

      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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        Altering the number? Definitely, but completely obscuring it, some people like the privacy. In the UK anyone off any mobile/landline can prevent the person they're calling from seeing their number by simply dialling 141 before the number.

        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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        Dirk Higbee
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        Here in the US the person receiving calls can block calls that won't show the number but it doesn't work very well. Businesses can still call in ,the id shows 'no data'. To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

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        • R realJSOP

          There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          We have ours blocked; I don't know why everybody doesn't. :confused: When the home number calls my cell it shows as "Restricted", some other numbers show as "Not available".

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          • R realJSOP

            There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Paul Watson
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            I've stopped picking up calls that have no number. They have never been anyone important or for anything I wanted.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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            • C Christian Graus

              In the US, does an unlisted number show 'unlisted', or is that not allowed ? At home, they are unlisted, from call centres.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              Chris Losinger
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              yes, sometimes they're "unlisted". but often they're just an out-of-state number with no identifying name attached. (though i suppose they're in-state for some people)

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              • D Dirk Higbee

                Here in the US the person receiving calls can block calls that won't show the number but it doesn't work very well. Businesses can still call in ,the id shows 'no data'. To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

                Don't take any wooden nickels.

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                Chris Losinger
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                Dirk Higbee wrote:

                To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

                especially since it exempts charities, politicians and businesses who claim they already have a relationship with you.

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                • P Paul Watson

                  I've stopped picking up calls that have no number. They have never been anyone important or for anything I wanted.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                  mincefish
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                  Totally - if it's important, they'll leave a message.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    QuiJohn
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                    Hrm, both my wife and my cell phones have been getting these "automotive warranty" calls, something about how they're about to expire and we need to act now. We thought it was funny because we don't have any cars with warranties on them. The thing that bugged us was that they had both of our cell numbers, which we didn't understand. They must just call every phone number on the planet.


                    Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency!            -Emily Dickinson

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                      Totally - if it's important, they'll leave a message.

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                      Paul Watson
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                      My voice-mail message says something like "I don't check voicemail so SMS me on this number or email me on..." If they really, really want to sell me income protection insurance for my dog then they can email me and GMail can send it straight to the spam folder. Even SMS is preferable (though SMS messages without a proper number are annoying too.) I wish I could tailor my voice-mail message based on caller-ID though. When my mom phones she always tells me my voice-mail message is a bit abrasive...

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        Dirk Higbee wrote:

                        To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

                        especially since it exempts charities, politicians and businesses who claim they already have a relationship with you.

                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        politicians...who claim they already have a relationship with you.

                        Am I going to read about that in the paper sometime? ;)

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        • R realJSOP

                          There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Rob Graham
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                          The House passed such a bill last year Truth in Caller ID Act of 2007 [^]. It remains stalled in Senate committee, thanks mostly to the influence of the Telemarketing Lobby. Write your favorite Senator(s).

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                            We have ours blocked; I don't know why everybody doesn't. :confused: When the home number calls my cell it shows as "Restricted", some other numbers show as "Not available".

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                            John M Drescher
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                            Some people have call blocking for those who do not release the number. I just ignore all calls that I do not know the number or do not give their number. They can talk to my voice mail instead...

                            John

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                            • R realJSOP

                              There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Ed Poore
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                              You should practice what my sister did years ago when she was about 6.  We were at the table eating dinner and the phone rang, so Dad said that it was rude to phone while we were at the table (he was in one of his moods) so he told her to pick it up and put it straight back down.  She did.  To this day we don't know who or what that phone call was.

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                                Hrm, both my wife and my cell phones have been getting these "automotive warranty" calls, something about how they're about to expire and we need to act now. We thought it was funny because we don't have any cars with warranties on them. The thing that bugged us was that they had both of our cell numbers, which we didn't understand. They must just call every phone number on the planet.


                                Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency!            -Emily Dickinson

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                                Big Daddy Farang
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                                We get the same calls on our home number. I wish I knew which car they're calling about since we've got cars from model years 2000, 1992, and 1970. Which warranty is about to expire...? :~

                                BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                                • E Ed Poore

                                  You should practice what my sister did years ago when she was about 6.  We were at the table eating dinner and the phone rang, so Dad said that it was rude to phone while we were at the table (he was in one of his moods) so he told her to pick it up and put it straight back down.  She did.  To this day we don't know who or what that phone call was.

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Ed.Poore wrote:

                                  so Dad said that it was rude to phone while we were at the table

                                  Amazing how things have changed. It has only been a few short years since I was a kid but back then everyone knew when dinner was and everyone had it at the same time. Between half 6 and half 7 you didn't call, you didn't knock on doors, you didn't swing by for a visit unless invited, sports had finished, playtime was over, movies were on later and broadcasters never scheduled anything important at that time. These days dinner is whenever you can get something in the microwave between the demands of the TiVo/web/email/mobile/sports/movies/work... a shame.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    My voice-mail message says something like "I don't check voicemail so SMS me on this number or email me on..." If they really, really want to sell me income protection insurance for my dog then they can email me and GMail can send it straight to the spam folder. Even SMS is preferable (though SMS messages without a proper number are annoying too.) I wish I could tailor my voice-mail message based on caller-ID though. When my mom phones she always tells me my voice-mail message is a bit abrasive...

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    Hi, this is Whizzo-Tech-Bang calling with a fantaaaastic new product. Our all new SensiIntelliRoboVox(tm) VoiceMail system will play the message you want your callers to hear, sweet for Mum, hatefull for Telemarketers(*), threatening for the College buddy who wants to borrow your car yet again. Just type in the number and choose from any of 16 custom(**) and 8 prerecorded messages! (*) SensiIntelliRoboVox(tm) VoiceMail will prioritize calls from Whizzo-Tech-Bang, deleting any others necessary to make room. (**) Proprietary Whizzo-Tech-Bang SuperDuper Microphone sold seperately


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                                    • E Ed Poore

                                      You should practice what my sister did years ago when she was about 6.  We were at the table eating dinner and the phone rang, so Dad said that it was rude to phone while we were at the table (he was in one of his moods) so he told her to pick it up and put it straight back down.  She did.  To this day we don't know who or what that phone call was.

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                                      Ah, I have my very talkative 5 year old son pick up the phone and chat with the nice salespeople. Usually it ends with him making some type of gaseous noise and laughing uncontrollably. For some reason I find it just as funny as he does. The wife however, just doesn't get the (three stooges-like) humorous quality of it though. :-D :sigh:

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                                        Ah, I have my very talkative 5 year old son pick up the phone and chat with the nice salespeople. Usually it ends with him making some type of gaseous noise and laughing uncontrollably. For some reason I find it just as funny as he does. The wife however, just doesn't get the (three stooges-like) humorous quality of it though. :-D :sigh:

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        Let her handle the calls until she sees the wisdom of your 5 year olds ways...

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                          There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Someone tried that in the UK. It shut down within a week rather than face prosecution :cool:

                                          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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