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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    Is it a public building? :confused:

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      Is it a public building? :confused:

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      Yes, but we occupy an entire floor. The cops are actually in the elevator lobby on our floor.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        You mean that you go around with a gun?

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        Several of us have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License), and we are almost always packing heat of some kind. Now that we can't bring it into the office, we just leave our firearms in our cars. Did I mention we're in Texas? Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

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            I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

            modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:27 PM

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            Unusual and unnecessary 99.9% of the time, but I wouldn't say it's ridiculous.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Several of us have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License), and we are almost always packing heat of some kind. Now that we can't bring it into the office, we just leave our firearms in our cars. Did I mention we're in Texas? Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Brady Kelly
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              we just leave our firearms in our cars.

              Isn't that a bit risky? My last employer that had a gun free policy had a check-in gun safe downstairs.

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                I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

                modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:27 PM

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                Chad W wrote:

                I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

                i work on a campus. this topic comes up a lot. it would sure be nice to be able to defend myself from the insane guy packing heat on campus.

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  we just leave our firearms in our cars.

                  Isn't that a bit risky? My last employer that had a gun free policy had a check-in gun safe downstairs.

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                  Brady Kelly wrote:

                  My last employer that had a gun free policy

                  good thing these work against people that are going to shoot up the building....

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    El Corazon
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                    Never had the ability. Government facilities have long since banned firearms of any kind. I got in trouble for my lock-back knife at one point. Nothing longer than 4" blade - mine was a mear 5.5" (good thing they never saw the last one my grandfather made)... and that was pre-9-11, now they'd probably confiscate toe nail clippers. There are no concealed permits for the martial arts weapons I am trained in, amazing you can get a concealed carry permit for a gun, but not for a sai, escrima, or even tonfun, but especially not throwing blades, throwing spikes, stars and the like -- all of those are illegal to carry most places. You can carry to and from the dojo, and your home, but not even keep in your car in most places. :)

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      DaTxomin
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                      Wild guess here... you live in the USA. I just saw "The gods must be crazy" again after many many years. Strange coincidence.

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                        Unusual and unnecessary 99.9% of the time, but I wouldn't say it's ridiculous.

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                        Unnecessary here.

                        Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                        • K keyboard warrior

                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                          My last employer that had a gun free policy

                          good thing these work against people that are going to shoot up the building....

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                          Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords. It was a home loan division of a bank.

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                            Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords. It was a home loan division of a bank.

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                            Brady Kelly wrote:

                            Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords.

                            nah...this just takes a clever call to the helpdesk generally :-D

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                Several of us have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License), and we are almost always packing heat of some kind. Now that we can't bring it into the office, we just leave our firearms in our cars. Did I mention we're in Texas? Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                in Texas... Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

                                Yes. That is so true!

                                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                  Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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                                  El Corazon
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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                  Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

                                  now THAT is the understatement of the year! :-D

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    NRA belt buckle

                                    Must get one, myself :-D

                                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                      Brady Kelly wrote:

                                      Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords.

                                      nah...this just takes a clever call to the helpdesk generally :-D

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      No, they were very tight. In the rare occasions we were allowed to make production changes, they would log on for us and watch while we made the changes, then log off again.

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Chris Meech
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                                        Tomorrow, show up to work wearing only your NRA belt and buckle and explain that you are carrying a concealed weapon. Then see whether they want to search you. :)

                                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                                          Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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                                          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                          However, almost every company has a "We reserve the right to terminate you for any reason..." mumbo jumbo in thier company handbook. Refusing to obey company policy is certainly a valid reason to fire you. Unless of course, you live in one of those states where it is almost impossible to fire anyone for any reason.

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