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  • O Oakman

    Can't we all get along? :confused:

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Now where would be the fun in that?

    me, me, me

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      digital man wrote:

      Oh come now: if that had been about muslims you'd have laughed.

      Could be, I won't claim I am perfect. But my objection to it is the substitution of insults for humor. You can see, by my tongue-lashing thread which isn't hard to find, that it's not a matter of my not finding some Christians and their short-sightedness very funny. In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious - and that includes (but is not limited to) atheists, christians, mormons, muslims, jeffersonians ;) , and hindus.

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      Oakman wrote:

      Could be, I won't claim I am perfect.

      What?!? :-)

      Oakman wrote:

      But my objection to it is the substitution of insults for humor.

      Isn't much humour predicated on some sort of twisted insult?

      Oakman wrote:

      In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious

      I demand that you retract that insult...

      me, me, me

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      • O Oakman

        digital man wrote:

        Oh come now: if that had been about muslims you'd have laughed.

        Could be, I won't claim I am perfect. But my objection to it is the substitution of insults for humor. You can see, by my tongue-lashing thread which isn't hard to find, that it's not a matter of my not finding some Christians and their short-sightedness very funny. In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious - and that includes (but is not limited to) atheists, christians, mormons, muslims, jeffersonians ;) , and hindus.

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        Oakman wrote:

        In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious - and that includes (but is not limited to) atheists, christians, mormons, muslims, jeffersonians [Wink] , and hindus.

        well said. 5.

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          10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 9 - You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the 'atrocities' attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus' and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in 'Joshua' including women, children, and trees! 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most 'tolerant' and 'loving.' 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in 'tongues' may be all the evidence you need to 'prove' Christianity. 2 - You define 0.01% as a 'high success rate' when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

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          Let me be the first to shriek, "Atheist trolling!" :~

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Oakman wrote:

            Could be, I won't claim I am perfect.

            What?!? :-)

            Oakman wrote:

            But my objection to it is the substitution of insults for humor.

            Isn't much humour predicated on some sort of twisted insult?

            Oakman wrote:

            In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious

            I demand that you retract that insult...

            me, me, me

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            My idea of humor (true): A t-shirt on a biker at the HOG (Harley Owners Group) convention in Sydney (no - the other one, in Canada) read: If you can read this, the bitch fell off.

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            • O Oakman

              digital man wrote:

              will want to crucify you for your terrible blasphemy. I say, however, that is their cross to bear.

              No, that's funny. btw: there's a midground between calling it blasphemy and finding it hilarious.

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              It is not hilarious, I admit that. But it funny because it points out the absurdity of being a fundamentalist or taking your religion too seriously. Most people, especially programmers who are good at logical thinking, know that God (if she exists) granted us the ability to reason but didn't give us the tools to know the answers to the big questions. We'll never know exactly how we got here or why were here. You can search your whole life but you'll never find the answer. That is what being human is all about. If someone really believed 100% that they were going to spend eternity in heaven then all this bullshit would go away and they would just be sitting around smoking dope all day praying to die so that they could be in heaven...

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                Oakman wrote:

                In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious - and that includes (but is not limited to) atheists, christians, mormons, muslims, jeffersonians [Wink] , and hindus.

                well said. 5.

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                THIS is the way and the truth: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster[^] Everything else is patently nonsense.

                me, me, me

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  Let me be the first to shriek, "Atheist trolling!" :~

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                  Nope. I got the list in an email and I just posted it. I'm not atheist or christian or anything else. I don't know, I won't know, and I leave it at that.

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                    It is not hilarious but it is funny. Fundamentalists of all religions are fools and they are funny and sometimes scary. It is no different if you are a crazy Muslim killing people so you can be with 40 virgins or if you are a crazy Christian convinced everyone else is going to spend eternity in hell for not being exactly like you. I didn't write the list, I just got it in an email.

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                    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                    I didn't write the list, I just got it in an email.

                    Oh, well, that certainly leaves you with no responsibility at all. Why didn't you say so in the first place?

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                    • O Oakman

                      My idea of humor (true): A t-shirt on a biker at the HOG (Harley Owners Group) convention in Sydney (no - the other one, in Canada) read: If you can read this, the bitch fell off.

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                      Lost User
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                      Oakman wrote:

                      If you can read this, the bitch fell off.

                      Wouldn't that be insulting to the "bitch" and thus insult your delicate humor sensibilities? ;)

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                        Nope. I got the list in an email and I just posted it. I'm not atheist or christian or anything else. I don't know, I won't know, and I leave it at that.

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                        That was a little joke. :)

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                          THIS is the way and the truth: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster[^] Everything else is patently nonsense.

                          me, me, me

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                          Now that is funny. An excellent parody.

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                            THIS is the way and the truth: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster[^] Everything else is patently nonsense.

                            me, me, me

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                            digital man wrote:

                            THIS is the way and the truth:

                            No, The Church of All Worlds is: "Come in and sit a spell, and get to know each other in this sacred space. We cast the circle here to give us the chance to practice one of the core values in CAW - growing closer; the development of an intimate spiritual family - what we call the Tribe of CAW, or the grok flock. So gather round the fire, take a sip of cool, clear, life giving water when the chalice passes your way, and share your life, your loves, your joys and sorrows, knowing that you are surrounded by Water Kin." (When they talk about sharing your loves, they mean exactly that!)

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                              That was a little joke. :)

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                              Brady Kelly wrote:

                              That was a little joke

                              Did you get it in an email?

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                              • O Oakman

                                My idea of humor (true): A t-shirt on a biker at the HOG (Harley Owners Group) convention in Sydney (no - the other one, in Canada) read: If you can read this, the bitch fell off.

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                                Paul Conrad
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                                :laugh::laugh::laugh: That's a good one. I'll have to keep an eye out for that since we get a lot of biker's cruising by here during the summer.

                                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                • B Brady Kelly

                                  That was a little joke. :)

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                                  ToddHileHoffer
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                                  Often so true in the soapbox.

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    If you can read this, the bitch fell off.

                                    Wouldn't that be insulting to the "bitch" and thus insult your delicate humor sensibilities? ;)

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                                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                    Wouldn't that be insulting to the "bitch" and thus insult your delicate humor sensibilities

                                    Not if it were worn by a woman. ;) I must admit I am much more likely to peruse t-shirts worn by women. :-O

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                                      It is not hilarious, I admit that. But it funny because it points out the absurdity of being a fundamentalist or taking your religion too seriously. Most people, especially programmers who are good at logical thinking, know that God (if she exists) granted us the ability to reason but didn't give us the tools to know the answers to the big questions. We'll never know exactly how we got here or why were here. You can search your whole life but you'll never find the answer. That is what being human is all about. If someone really believed 100% that they were going to spend eternity in heaven then all this bullshit would go away and they would just be sitting around smoking dope all day praying to die so that they could be in heaven...

                                      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                      Oakman
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                                      ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                      Most people, especially programmers who are good at logical thinking,

                                      Logic always depends on a priori postulates. If you start off by postulating that the moon is made of green cheese you can create a very logical train of thought which involves giant mice living on the dark side of the moon. Rational thought is what is needed, and in my experience, programmers are more likely to be irrational that many other professions. Except for me, of course.

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                                        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                        Most people, especially programmers who are good at logical thinking,

                                        Logic always depends on a priori postulates. If you start off by postulating that the moon is made of green cheese you can create a very logical train of thought which involves giant mice living on the dark side of the moon. Rational thought is what is needed, and in my experience, programmers are more likely to be irrational that many other professions. Except for me, of course.

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                                        Matthew Faithfull
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                                        Rational thought of course also depends on a priori postulates, the usefulness of rationality being one of the more common and less controversial. What is needed is thought based on a conciously acknowledged set of genuinely fundamental beliefs that are consistent with reality and time invariant. Thank God he has provided everything necessary for just such a system of beliefs.

                                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                        • O Oakman

                                          digital man wrote:

                                          Oh come now: if that had been about muslims you'd have laughed.

                                          Could be, I won't claim I am perfect. But my objection to it is the substitution of insults for humor. You can see, by my tongue-lashing thread which isn't hard to find, that it's not a matter of my not finding some Christians and their short-sightedness very funny. In the long run, I find most true believers hilarious - and that includes (but is not limited to) atheists, christians, mormons, muslims, jeffersonians ;) , and hindus.

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                                          Scorch
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                                          Even the Jeffersonians!? ;P

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