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    Chris Maunder
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    Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      leppie
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

      Hackers take things apart with no intention of reassembly. Crackers take things apart with the intention to put it together differently (illegally).

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        Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Graham Bradshaw
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        I would say they are hackers (in this sense[^]. Esp. point 7: One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

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          Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          phannon86
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          This was never going to take long, but for the time being, I'm more than happy using my iPhone without any unlocks or jailbroken.

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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            Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            peterchen
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            A hacker makes your computer assplode, and a cracker is what you feed to Polly?

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              This was never going to take long, but for the time being, I'm more than happy using my iPhone without any unlocks or jailbroken.

              He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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              Dan Neely
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              And I'm happy only paying $40/mo for my phone not $100 :laugh:

              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                And I'm happy only paying $40/mo for my phone not $100 :laugh:

                Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                phannon86
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                I'm not paying 100$, but £35 (~$70). A fairly typical monthly rate for new contracts with high end phones in the UK.

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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

                  Hackers take things apart with no intention of reassembly. Crackers take things apart with the intention to put it together differently (illegally).

                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                  James R Twine
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                  I always use the term Hacker in the sense of 2600, or what is called "grey hat" hacking.  We hack to understand and/or improve.  In fact, IME, in order to have a successful hack, the item being hacked still needs to work afterwards!  :)  Homebrew hackers are good examples -- they hack in order to try to get their own software to run on a system.  In order to do that, they need to understand pretty much everything about that system, and they cannot brickify it in the process.    Crackers mess with things like protection systems in order to get around them, usually for nefarious purposes.  Take software crackers for example -- they do not hack to understand the complete internal workings of your product, just the copy protection parts and how to disable them.    Peace!

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                    A hacker makes your computer assplode, and a cracker is what you feed to Polly?

                    We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                    blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                    Oakman
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                    Those who eat crackers in bed, wake up with crumbs.

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                      Those who eat crackers in bed, wake up with crumbs.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      peterchen
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                      Hm. I assume in your corner of the world "Polly" is NOT the canonical name for a parrot? Or do you bed with your parrot?

                      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                      blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Hm. I assume in your corner of the world "Polly" is NOT the canonical name for a parrot? Or do you bed with your parrot?

                        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                        blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Oakman
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                        peterchen wrote:

                        I assume in your corner of the world "Polly" is NOT the canonical name for a parrot

                        Y'know I have never seen nor heard of a parrot actually named Polly, but yes, I did recognize the reference.

                        peterchen wrote:

                        Or do you bed with your parrot?

                        Rough rule of thumb, never take an animate object outfitted with razor sharp edges into your bed. :-D But the operative word in this thread is cracker, right?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          Crackers are white people, are hackers lumberjacks?

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Hackers open core of Apple's iPhone[^] I just wish that one day the media would finally understand the difference between a hacker and a cracker.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Steve Mayfield
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                            Hacker: Someone that jogs wearing a hockey mask and carrying a running chain saw... :rolleyes: Cracker: Something you give to your Parrot when its hungry... :-O

                            Steve

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                              I would say they are hackers (in this sense[^]. Esp. point 7: One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

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                              Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                              One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

                              ... in ways that are often poorly documented, not maintainable, highly coupled, unportable, and error-prone. :~

                              ~Nitron.


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