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  • K keyboard warrior

    hey i cannot stop others from reply'ing to my posts. i did not "join" anything. i was merely using the same level of sarcasm you seem to enjoy using when someone claims that they know everything. you still have me 1 voted for that compliment - i already said was intentional. this is not justice.

    ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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    Ilion
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    jgasm wrote:

    you still have me 1 voted for that compliment - i already said was intentional. this is not justice.

    Did I really? I certainly didn't mean to.

    jgasm wrote:

    i was merely using the same level of sarcasm you seem to enjoy using when someone claims that they know everything.

    Sarcasm is a dangerous master. And Stan wasn't claiming to know everything; he was addressing sarcasm to the studied ignorance of an individual.

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      jgasm wrote:

      you still have me 1 voted for that compliment - i already said was intentional. this is not justice.

      Did I really? I certainly didn't mean to.

      jgasm wrote:

      i was merely using the same level of sarcasm you seem to enjoy using when someone claims that they know everything.

      Sarcasm is a dangerous master. And Stan wasn't claiming to know everything; he was addressing sarcasm to the studied ignorance of an individual.

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      keyboard warrior
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      Ilíon wrote:

      Sarcasm is a dangerous master.

      i like to live dangerously.

      Ilíon wrote:

      And Stan wasn't claiming to know everything; he was addressing sarcasm to the studied ignorance of an individual.

      not an individual.

      Stan wrote:

      the left has been just as wrong about ... well ... everything.

      there is nothing like a blanket statement to get the firing roaring. so this was it? your proof that i am in the "community" is 1 post, between stan and i... i do not know if that really qualifies your accusations :((

      ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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      • K keyboard warrior

        Ilíon wrote:

        Sarcasm is a dangerous master.

        i like to live dangerously.

        Ilíon wrote:

        And Stan wasn't claiming to know everything; he was addressing sarcasm to the studied ignorance of an individual.

        not an individual.

        Stan wrote:

        the left has been just as wrong about ... well ... everything.

        there is nothing like a blanket statement to get the firing roaring. so this was it? your proof that i am in the "community" is 1 post, between stan and i... i do not know if that really qualifies your accusations :((

        ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

        modified on Monday, July 21, 2008 7:27 PM

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        Ilion
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        jgasm wrote:

        not an individual.

        He was addressing an individual who is a passive-aggressive squish-leftist.

        jgasm wrote:

        Stan: the left has been just as wrong about ... well ... everything. jgasm: there is nothing like a blanket statement to get the firing roaring.

        "Blanket statements" are sometimes true. The irony here is ... ironic. The (stated) basis of your objection to Stan's "blanket statement" is itself just another "blanket statement."

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          jgasm wrote:

          not an individual.

          He was addressing an individual who is a passive-aggressive squish-leftist.

          jgasm wrote:

          Stan: the left has been just as wrong about ... well ... everything. jgasm: there is nothing like a blanket statement to get the firing roaring.

          "Blanket statements" are sometimes true. The irony here is ... ironic. The (stated) basis of your objection to Stan's "blanket statement" is itself just another "blanket statement."

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          keyboard warrior
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          stan claimed leftist (not the original poster) are wrong about everything. thus one would have to know everything in order to back up such a statement. which really is not the point. you accused me of being in the lying bully community and are using my comment to stan as your 1 piece of proof. a conversation that did not even involve you. stan being right or wrong about that does not change the fact that my activities were not bullying, lying etc. i just think you should take back your accusation about my soapbox postings. :(

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          • K keyboard warrior

            Ilíon wrote:

            Sarcasm is a dangerous master.

            i like to live dangerously.

            Ilíon wrote:

            And Stan wasn't claiming to know everything; he was addressing sarcasm to the studied ignorance of an individual.

            not an individual.

            Stan wrote:

            the left has been just as wrong about ... well ... everything.

            there is nothing like a blanket statement to get the firing roaring. so this was it? your proof that i am in the "community" is 1 post, between stan and i... i do not know if that really qualifies your accusations :((

            ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

            modified on Monday, July 21, 2008 7:27 PM

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            jgasm wrote:

            so this was it? your proof that i am in the "community" is 1 post, between stan and i... i do not know if that really qualifies your accusations :((

            :rolleyes:[^]

            jgasm wrote:

            so this was it?

            I'm not going to spend the rest of the evening trolling through old posts looking for other instances. If I have misunderstood you as having you big toe over the line with "the community," it will be clear, soon enough, by your behavior. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to you so far (for you're not that regular here); if my over-all impression of you is incorrect, I can correct it.

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              jgasm wrote:

              so this was it? your proof that i am in the "community" is 1 post, between stan and i... i do not know if that really qualifies your accusations :((

              :rolleyes:[^]

              jgasm wrote:

              so this was it?

              I'm not going to spend the rest of the evening trolling through old posts looking for other instances. If I have misunderstood you as having you big toe over the line with "the community," it will be clear, soon enough, by your behavior. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to you so far (for you're not that regular here); if my over-all impression of you is incorrect, I can correct it.

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              Ilíon wrote:

              I'm not going to spend the rest of the evening trolling through old posts looking for other instances. If I have misunderstood you as having you big toe over the line with "the community," it will be clear, soon enough, by your behavior. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to you so far (for you're not that regular here); if my over-all impression of you is incorrect, I can correct it.

              so in other words...you accused me of something you are not willing to take the time to look into and find proof of? and you call yourself a defender of honesty and justice... :|

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                Ilíon wrote:

                I'm not going to spend the rest of the evening trolling through old posts looking for other instances. If I have misunderstood you as having you big toe over the line with "the community," it will be clear, soon enough, by your behavior. I haven't paid a great deal of attention to you so far (for you're not that regular here); if my over-all impression of you is incorrect, I can correct it.

                so in other words...you accused me of something you are not willing to take the time to look into and find proof of? and you call yourself a defender of honesty and justice... :|

                ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                Ilion
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                jgasm wrote:

                so in other words...you accused me of something you are not willing to take the time to look into and find proof of?

                :rolleyes: [^] I must say, you are untentativizing me.

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                  jgasm wrote:

                  so in other words...you accused me of something you are not willing to take the time to look into and find proof of?

                  :rolleyes: [^] I must say, you are untentativizing me.

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                  keyboard warrior
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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  untentativizing

                  are you sure that is even a word... i can find about 1000 posts by you saying far worse than i say. after all, you have developed the reputation you have... you sir are a charlatan.

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                    jgasm wrote:

                    i guess i just find that what goes on in this forum is very inconsequential.

                    I, on the other hand, have a very warm place in my heart for bullies (and such is "the community") -- I *loathe* bullies with a white-hot passion. Due to the way they *misunderstood* Christianity when they first became Christians, my parents instructed us to not fight back. And I was a dutiful son. The bullies, of course, quickly figured out that we were "easy pickings." The final straw for me was when I had to lead my younger brother and little sisters into an open sewer to protect them from a gang of four or five boys of about my age (my sisters would have been in 1st grade, my brother in 3rd, I in 5th). Since that day, I have made it a point to be the "savage" my ancestry calls me to be.

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                    Ilíon wrote:

                    The bullies, of course, quickly figured out that we were "easy pickings."

                    That explains a lot - Stockholm Syndrome Squared.

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                    • I Ilion

                      ... the sandass script, I mean. The more of you "family" asses install it, the better. If enough of you go for it, perhaps you'll take enough sand with you that the SoapBox can be dug out of the SandBox. On the other hand, I really don't expect a single one of the "family-guys" to stick with the script.

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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      ... the sandass script, I mean. The more of you "family" asses install it, the better. If enough of you go for it, perhaps you'll take enough sand with you that the SoapBox can be dug out of the SandBox. On the other hand, I really don't expect a single one of the "family-guys" to stick with the script.

                      You're just running your own little one-man Gitmo for metaphors, aren't you?

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                      • K keyboard warrior

                        hey i cannot stop others from reply'ing to my posts. i did not "join" anything. i was merely using the same level of sarcasm you seem to enjoy using when someone claims that they know everything. you still have me 1 voted for that compliment - i already said was intentional. this is not justice.

                        ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                        Ilion
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                        jgasm wrote:

                        you still have me 1 voted for that compliment - i already said was intentional. this is not justice.

                        As it turns out, I had (as I said earlier, not intentionally). I know I had because when I looked at it (after first reading the above), there were 2 votes, with a "score" of 3. So I thought, "OK, I'll just vote it a 5, to balance it out" ... and the number of votes stayed at 2, but the "score" changed to 5. It's funny, really. Here MyBravePet, the Anonymouse, voted your post[^] a 5, not quite able to realize that you had leveled a compliment against me. :laugh:

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                          Ilíon wrote:

                          I don't like being lied about,

                          If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

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                          Fantastic poem that (very difficult standard to meet, of course, but wonderful aspirations).

                          John Carson

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                          • K keyboard warrior

                            Ilíon wrote:

                            untentativizing

                            are you sure that is even a word... i can find about 1000 posts by you saying far worse than i say. after all, you have developed the reputation you have... you sir are a charlatan.

                            ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                            jgasm wrote:

                            Ilíon: untentativizing jgasm: are you sure that is even a word...

                            It is now.

                            jgasm wrote:

                            i can find about 1000 posts by you saying far worse than i say.

                            You're not really paying attention, are you? The point had nothing to do with you making a "mean" comment. It had to do with you making a false accusation[^] ... and with a secondary implied assertion which is illogical and irrational, at that. The false accusation contained within your sneering comment is that Stan is an ignorant-know-nothing know-it-all. The illogical and irrational secondary implied assertion is that the opinion Stan expressed is invalid because it is "merely" an opinion (the quotes are around 'merely' because the idea of "mere opinion" as being in contrast to "fact" is a whole other level of irrationality). There may well be other layers of illogic and irrationality in that one little sneer, but I am trying, even now, to be charitable with you.

                            jgasm wrote:

                            after all, you have developed the reputation you have...

                            Let's see here: certain dishonest people continuously make false and/or dishonest assertions about me ... and *I've* developed a reputation? Amazing! The only truth in that "reputation" is that I am not nice. But, I never even once claimed to be nice, nor do I wish to be nice. I emphatically am not nice. And, after all, you have just excused yourself for not being nice. I trust you can excuse me too.

                            jgasm wrote:

                            you sir are a charlatan.

                            And you, sir, are a montebank (*) and a carpet-bagger[^]! (*) OK, I'm going to go through this with you one more time:

                            jgasm wrote[^]:

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              ... the sandass script, I mean. The more of you "family" asses install it, the better. If enough of you go for it, perhaps you'll take enough sand with you that the SoapBox can be dug out of the SandBox. On the other hand, I really don't expect a single one of the "family-guys" to stick with the script.

                              You're just running your own little one-man Gitmo for metaphors, aren't you?

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                              So sue me, Sister Sludge.

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                                ... the sandass script, I mean. The more of you "family" asses install it, the better. If enough of you go for it, perhaps you'll take enough sand with you that the SoapBox can be dug out of the SandBox. On the other hand, I really don't expect a single one of the "family-guys" to stick with the script.

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                                Oh dear, are you feeling left out? Is it like your childhood again? Well, I do hope you can endure more of these mental hardships, it is a trying time and you've been doing so well. You are still using group terminology to refer to everyone else though. 'They' are all after me... the 'family' is trying to get me... It's brave Ilion against the world. So near but so far.

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                                  jgasm wrote:

                                  Ilíon: untentativizing jgasm: are you sure that is even a word...

                                  It is now.

                                  jgasm wrote:

                                  i can find about 1000 posts by you saying far worse than i say.

                                  You're not really paying attention, are you? The point had nothing to do with you making a "mean" comment. It had to do with you making a false accusation[^] ... and with a secondary implied assertion which is illogical and irrational, at that. The false accusation contained within your sneering comment is that Stan is an ignorant-know-nothing know-it-all. The illogical and irrational secondary implied assertion is that the opinion Stan expressed is invalid because it is "merely" an opinion (the quotes are around 'merely' because the idea of "mere opinion" as being in contrast to "fact" is a whole other level of irrationality). There may well be other layers of illogic and irrationality in that one little sneer, but I am trying, even now, to be charitable with you.

                                  jgasm wrote:

                                  after all, you have developed the reputation you have...

                                  Let's see here: certain dishonest people continuously make false and/or dishonest assertions about me ... and *I've* developed a reputation? Amazing! The only truth in that "reputation" is that I am not nice. But, I never even once claimed to be nice, nor do I wish to be nice. I emphatically am not nice. And, after all, you have just excused yourself for not being nice. I trust you can excuse me too.

                                  jgasm wrote:

                                  you sir are a charlatan.

                                  And you, sir, are a montebank (*) and a carpet-bagger[^]! (*) OK, I'm going to go through this with you one more time:

                                  jgasm wrote[^]:

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                                  that is quite the post. sorry i did not get to it sooner, I went to mexican and got conned into going to the Dark Knight. that is a long movie. not too bad though.

                                  Ilíon wrote:

                                  but I am trying, even now, to be charitable with you.

                                  im flattered.

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                                    that is quite the post. sorry i did not get to it sooner, I went to mexican and got conned into going to the Dark Knight. that is a long movie. not too bad though.

                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    but I am trying, even now, to be charitable with you.

                                    im flattered.

                                    ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                                    jgasm wrote:

                                    im flattered.

                                    Flattery warms one's heart for a moment. Better would be to realize that you had misunderstood (even though I kept pointing you back[^]) Hmmm. I see that someone gave that a 5. That means that MyBravePet, the Anonymouse, will be giving it a 1 soon. So, I've given it another 5.

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                                      Ilíon wrote:

                                      I don't like being lied about,

                                      If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

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                                      Sorry! Had a blonde moment and clicked the wrong end of the scale - have a 5 to make up for it (know it's not gonna count, but hey ho!)

                                      C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                        Sorry! Had a blonde moment and clicked the wrong end of the scale - have a 5 to make up for it (know it's not gonna count, but hey ho!)

                                        C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                        You can revote these days.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                          jgasm wrote:

                                          im flattered.

                                          Flattery warms one's heart for a moment. Better would be to realize that you had misunderstood (even though I kept pointing you back[^]) Hmmm. I see that someone gave that a 5. That means that MyBravePet, the Anonymouse, will be giving it a 1 soon. So, I've given it another 5.

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                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          misunderstood

                                          no, i really do not think this is the case.

                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          So, I've given it another 5.

                                          you are too good to me <3

                                          ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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