Convicted Spammer Kills Self, Wife, and Daughter
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Thinking that way, wouldn't any person who (tries to) commit(s) suicide automatically deserve to die because of his/her stupidity? I see logic there.. but maybe a bit harsh
Calling them stupid may be harsh but if, genetically, a certain segment of humanity is predisposed to suicide then removing that segment would decrease the suicide rate among the general population. If I were a betting man I would suggest that it would be a greater benefit to the populations of humans if they weren't all suicidal. This statement is a reflection of Darwinism and not my individual belief. Like I said, I just like bringing it up because of the inconsistency of human compassion and the insistence that Darwinism is right.
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Now he is eligible for a Darwin Award having removed his ability to reproduce as well as if offspring in a stunning display of human stupidity. Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
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Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
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I don't see how your comment fits into my statement. Perhaps you need an education in English, Theology, and Darwinism. But rather than bait you I will just suggest you read and understand my post rather than react.
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I don't see how your comment fits into my statement.
That's Ok. I said you need scientific education precisely because I don't expect you to understand what you said.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I will just suggest you read and understand my post rather than react.
"we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism" seems pretty straightforward to me. It implies that you have to choose between religion or believing in evolution. Can you please show me another hidden meaning on it? My 2 points: 1) "God" and "Darwinism" are not contradictory (just ask the Pope and Edmund Wilson, both Christians that respect the theory of evolution). 2) "Darwinism" is an incorrect term for evolution. It doesn't exist in biology in the same way that "Turing-ism" doesn't exist in computing science. Evolution is the bedrock of biology in the same way the Turing machine is the bedrock of Computing Science. They are not "isms" or "doctrines" (or "just theories", in the non-scientific meaning of theory). Now, if you're referring to bastard derivations like "social Darwinism" you'd better be clear about it.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I don't see how your comment fits into my statement.
That's Ok. I said you need scientific education precisely because I don't expect you to understand what you said.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I will just suggest you read and understand my post rather than react.
"we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism" seems pretty straightforward to me. It implies that you have to choose between religion or believing in evolution. Can you please show me another hidden meaning on it? My 2 points: 1) "God" and "Darwinism" are not contradictory (just ask the Pope and Edmund Wilson, both Christians that respect the theory of evolution). 2) "Darwinism" is an incorrect term for evolution. It doesn't exist in biology in the same way that "Turing-ism" doesn't exist in computing science. Evolution is the bedrock of biology in the same way the Turing machine is the bedrock of Computing Science. They are not "isms" or "doctrines" (or "just theories", in the non-scientific meaning of theory). Now, if you're referring to bastard derivations like "social Darwinism" you'd better be clear about it.
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Diego Moita wrote:
That's Ok. I said you need scientific education precisely because I don't expect you to understand what you said.
And why is that?
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I don't see how your comment fits into my statement.
That's Ok. I said you need scientific education precisely because I don't expect you to understand what you said.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I will just suggest you read and understand my post rather than react.
"we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism" seems pretty straightforward to me. It implies that you have to choose between religion or believing in evolution. Can you please show me another hidden meaning on it? My 2 points: 1) "God" and "Darwinism" are not contradictory (just ask the Pope and Edmund Wilson, both Christians that respect the theory of evolution). 2) "Darwinism" is an incorrect term for evolution. It doesn't exist in biology in the same way that "Turing-ism" doesn't exist in computing science. Evolution is the bedrock of biology in the same way the Turing machine is the bedrock of Computing Science. They are not "isms" or "doctrines" (or "just theories", in the non-scientific meaning of theory). Now, if you're referring to bastard derivations like "social Darwinism" you'd better be clear about it.
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Shog9 wrote:
We should have work camps for spammers
You feel far more kindly towards them than I do. To my mind this guy did a lot more damage to society and was far more of a threat to public order than the average impulse homicider.
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Oakman wrote:
average impulse homicider
I've never been a big fan of average impulses myself.
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I second that! But way only the spammers, what about spyware authors? They steals your credit card number, killing your computer performance, encrypt all your data with random RSA keys and blackmail you for the money or for buying there “AV software”, causing loses for millions and millions of dollars and a lot of nerves. And when eventually they are cached the only penalty is one year in “holiday camp prison”, or even just a fine. Just for comparison, some poor stupid bastard, committed a gas station robbery with plastic gun and taking $78 from the cash will receive how mach? 20 years in a max security prison? I’m not justify the guy with the plastic gun, I simply want the equal penalties for the morons causing loses for millions.
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Now he is eligible for a Darwin Award having removed his ability to reproduce as well as if offspring in a stunning display of human stupidity. Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
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You have to separate my paragraph into two thoughts: 1) I would like to care about the fact that he shot his child but it is hard for me in the context of the fact that if the theory of evolution is such a mighty and all important idea that any disagreement of such is met with irrational attacks from Darwinism supporters (notice the attack on me as a troll one post up) then I find myself unable to have sympathy for some idiot taking his genetics out of the Gene pool. I am constantly amazed at the logical disconnect people have between the two issues of Darwinism and Faith. If God doesn't exist and Darwinism is supreme then this idiot did us all a favor. If God trumps Darwinism then it is sad that a young life had to die for some plan we can't understand. You can have one sentiment or the other but not both. Yet constantly, the dumb masses choose both and I find it annoying. 2) Killing yourself and murdering your family is pretty stupid and far from an intelligent decision.
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If God doesn't exist and Darwinism is supreme
False Dichotomy! Where is that damn 'flag' emoticon? ;P
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Thinking that way, wouldn't any person who (tries to) commit(s) suicide automatically deserve to die because of his/her stupidity? I see logic there.. but maybe a bit harsh
No, some people may just want to die, not deserve to die. We may feel they deserve forgiveness, or compassion, but maybe their life is just not worth living in there terms.
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Simon Capewell wrote:
Not really. He shot himself on purpose rather than by accident.
He should have used C! ;P
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Now he is eligible for a Darwin Award having removed his ability to reproduce as well as if offspring in a stunning display of human stupidity. Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
You're anger is a bit misplaced. Clearly the culprit in this case isn't Darwinism, but rather Newtonism. His actions go directly against the interests of passing on his genes, but they clearly follow from the replacement of God with the Newtonian principles of motion. Such unholy worship of physical law not only lead him to shoot his child, but it also daily leads thousands of children to push other children out of windows in accordance with the atheistic theory of gravity.
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Calling them stupid may be harsh but if, genetically, a certain segment of humanity is predisposed to suicide then removing that segment would decrease the suicide rate among the general population. If I were a betting man I would suggest that it would be a greater benefit to the populations of humans if they weren't all suicidal. This statement is a reflection of Darwinism and not my individual belief. Like I said, I just like bringing it up because of the inconsistency of human compassion and the insistence that Darwinism is right.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Like I said, I just like bringing it up because of the inconsistency of human compassion and the insistence that Darwinism is right.
:omg: Evolution and human compassion only seem inconsistent if you don't understand them. This is a "Straw Man" argument commonly used by Evolution Deniers. Next you'll be telling us that the Theory of Evolution is responsible for the Holocaust. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Personally, I hate to read about children dying but as a country (US Specific rant begin) we have taken God out and replaced it with the theory of Darwinism. If that is the national consensus I do not see the problem with allowing the practice of the same.
You're anger is a bit misplaced. Clearly the culprit in this case isn't Darwinism, but rather Newtonism. His actions go directly against the interests of passing on his genes, but they clearly follow from the replacement of God with the Newtonian principles of motion. Such unholy worship of physical law not only lead him to shoot his child, but it also daily leads thousands of children to push other children out of windows in accordance with the atheistic theory of gravity.
How did this conversation devolve into defenestration? BTW, I have no anger over the subject I was just stating my opinion.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Like I said, I just like bringing it up because of the inconsistency of human compassion and the insistence that Darwinism is right.
:omg: Evolution and human compassion only seem inconsistent if you don't understand them. This is a "Straw Man" argument commonly used by Evolution Deniers. Next you'll be telling us that the Theory of Evolution is responsible for the Holocaust. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Godwin's law applies to everything!
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How did this conversation devolve into defenestration? BTW, I have no anger over the subject I was just stating my opinion.
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How did this conversation devolve into defenestration? BTW, I have no anger over the subject I was just stating my opinion.
Evasion noted.
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Godwin's law applies to everything!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
How did this conversation devolve into defenestration? BTW, I have no anger over the subject I was just stating my opinion.
Evasion noted.
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You have to separate my paragraph into two thoughts: 1) I would like to care about the fact that he shot his child but it is hard for me in the context of the fact that if the theory of evolution is such a mighty and all important idea that any disagreement of such is met with irrational attacks from Darwinism supporters (notice the attack on me as a troll one post up) then I find myself unable to have sympathy for some idiot taking his genetics out of the Gene pool. I am constantly amazed at the logical disconnect people have between the two issues of Darwinism and Faith. If God doesn't exist and Darwinism is supreme then this idiot did us all a favor. If God trumps Darwinism then it is sad that a young life had to die for some plan we can't understand. You can have one sentiment or the other but not both. Yet constantly, the dumb masses choose both and I find it annoying. 2) Killing yourself and murdering your family is pretty stupid and far from an intelligent decision.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would like to care about the fact that he shot his child but it is hard for me in the context of the fact that if the theory of evolution is such a mighty and all important idea that any disagreement of such is met with irrational attacks from Darwinism supporters (notice the attack on me as a troll one post up) then I find myself unable to have sympathy for some idiot taking his genetics out of the Gene pool.
I see, so you're a hard core Darwinist...
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
If God doesn't exist and Darwinism is supreme then this idiot did us all a favor.
Where did you learn that criminal behavior is passed down through the genes? Is it possible the kid could have turned out just like any other law-abiding citizen (or better)?
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
If God trumps Darwinism then it is sad that a young life had to die for some plan we can't understand.
Really? But it's God's plan. So it must be good. In fact, it's perfect! Being sad tells God that you don't like his plan. And you don't want to piss off God, believe me! :rolleyes:
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Yet constantly, the dumb masses choose both and I find it annoying.
I think the "dumb masses" simply feel what's natural in cases like this: an innocent life was extinguished by a bastard. It's very sad. That's it. No need for God or Darwin to get involved.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would like to care about the fact that he shot his child but it is hard for me in the context of the fact that if the theory of evolution is such a mighty and all important idea that any disagreement of such is met with irrational attacks from Darwinism supporters (notice the attack on me as a troll one post up) then I find myself unable to have sympathy for some idiot taking his genetics out of the Gene pool.
I see, so you're a hard core Darwinist...
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
If God doesn't exist and Darwinism is supreme then this idiot did us all a favor.
Where did you learn that criminal behavior is passed down through the genes? Is it possible the kid could have turned out just like any other law-abiding citizen (or better)?
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
If God trumps Darwinism then it is sad that a young life had to die for some plan we can't understand.
Really? But it's God's plan. So it must be good. In fact, it's perfect! Being sad tells God that you don't like his plan. And you don't want to piss off God, believe me! :rolleyes:
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Yet constantly, the dumb masses choose both and I find it annoying.
I think the "dumb masses" simply feel what's natural in cases like this: an innocent life was extinguished by a bastard. It's very sad. That's it. No need for God or Darwin to get involved.
My latest C# extension method: public static bool In<T>(this T value, params T[] values) { return values.Any(v => v.Equals(value)); } Example: bool valid = answer.In("Yes", "No", "Dunno");
My command of the English language is often not sufficient enough to complete my thoughts succinctly or with any great sufficiency that allows others to understand my thought process I use. I see no need to try to continue to explain or defend my opinion because it is that, my opinion and in the long run if I spent the time necessary to bring in all of the relevant details, facts, and logic and present a compelling, thought-provoking post that any person of reasonable intelligence would be able to grasp and convert to my side of the fence I will have only accomplished two things: 1) Wasted a bunch of my time and 2) Lost an argument on the Internet because as we all know the only person that can win an argument on the Internet are those that choose not to participate. I probably would have never responded to any of the sub replies in this thread except I was baited by a personal attack.
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