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  • M Marc Clifton

    Ah, I think gender on inanimate objects is, frankly, disgusting. I realize that's a harsh word, but I always cringe when someone refers to a computer or a car as "she". Blech. These things, including sailing vessels, are "it"! Marc

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    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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    Exactly.

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    • K keyboard warrior

      do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      In a word, no - ours are all "it".

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      • L leckey 0

        I have a habit of naming electronics and such. All my vehicles have Latino names. I usually call my computer "Piece of Crap" which I believe is gender neutral.

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        Tom Delany
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        leckey wrote:

        All my vehicles have Latino names.

        You're lucky. I bought a green 2007 Toyota Prius. When I drove it home, my son said, "Dad, it looks like a booger." That was all my wife had to hear. From that day on, my new car was known as "Booger" by my wife (and son). :(


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          leckey wrote:

          All my vehicles have Latino names.

          You're lucky. I bought a green 2007 Toyota Prius. When I drove it home, my son said, "Dad, it looks like a booger." That was all my wife had to hear. From that day on, my new car was known as "Booger" by my wife (and son). :(


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          Gary R Wheeler
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          I trust they've never needed to ride in Booger, either.

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          • K keyboard warrior

            do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

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            MarkB777
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            jgasm wrote:

            do women say "she" in reference to their computers?

            If I heard someone, male or female, say that... I would never EVER stop teasing them.

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            • M MarkB777

              jgasm wrote:

              do women say "she" in reference to their computers?

              If I heard someone, male or female, say that... I would never EVER stop teasing them.

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              keyboard warrior
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              really? many men refer to their cars as "her" or in some feminine sense as well as ships. ships have classicaly been referred to as "she".

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              • K keyboard warrior

                do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

                ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                Super Lloyd
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                I believe it is men who created the "she" fashion for "important" items such as country, ship or car. I will bet that women, if let alone, will call it "he" ;)

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                • T Tom Delany

                  leckey wrote:

                  All my vehicles have Latino names.

                  You're lucky. I bought a green 2007 Toyota Prius. When I drove it home, my son said, "Dad, it looks like a booger." That was all my wife had to hear. From that day on, my new car was known as "Booger" by my wife (and son). :(


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                  leckey 0
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                  Yeah, but an EARTH FRIENDLY booger! My Saturn is Lola and my hubby's Taurus is Guillermo. Our old Blazer was Fernando.

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                  • K keyboard warrior

                    do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

                    ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                    El Corazon
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                    jgasm wrote:

                    i know i do.

                    If the machine is nice and well behaved... she's a beauty to behold... always a "she." If the machine is misbehaved, crashes, or otherwise acts up... it's a pain in the arse, always an "it." so you can pretty much tell my opinion of a computer by how I refer to it in pronoun form. :)

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Ah, I think gender on inanimate objects is, frankly, disgusting. I realize that's a harsh word, but I always cringe when someone refers to a computer or a car as "she". Blech. These things, including sailing vessels, are "it"! Marc

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                      Uncle Serge
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                      Completely agree! My PC is always just "computer", my car is just car and so on. And each of those is always "it". It's total nonsense to humanize such things, e.g. to say "my poor comp is tired - he had a hard day". What a rubbish! :)

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                      • K keyboard warrior

                        i remember in high school when in french and german class we had to memorize the gender of the indefinite article. a table was female, a desk was male etc...

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                        Uncle Serge
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                        That's completely different thing. In such langauges it's just "a technical language issue", it's not humanizing things. BTW, "der Tisch" but "die Gänschen" :cool:

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          jgasm wrote:

                          maybe i just need to get out more...

                          Pretty sure you're on to something there... I personally refer to it as "her", it's either "it" or, like leckey does, "this piece of shit". Less sticking of ram and more getting outside in the sun is what I always say.

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                          Roger Wright
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                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          Less sticking of ram and more getting outside

                          Sticking of ewe, I presume...

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                          • K keyboard warrior

                            do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

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                            Roger Wright
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                            jgasm wrote:

                            do women say "she" in reference to their computers?

                            The women I work with do, after a fashion. They usually refer to their computers as "... you bitch!"

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                            • S StevenWalsh

                              I think its a programmer thing that stems from not having much contact with the female race... For me its only on weekends

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                              ChandraRam
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                              StevenWalsh wrote:

                              I think its a programmer thing that stems from not having much contact with the female race... For me its only on weekends

                              Why? You have a policy to not recruit female programmers?? :)

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                              • L leckey 0

                                Yeah, but an EARTH FRIENDLY booger! My Saturn is Lola and my hubby's Taurus is Guillermo. Our old Blazer was Fernando.

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                                John Oxley
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                                A Toyota Prius is not an environmentally friendly booger. Making the batteries involves nickel mining in Canada, a filthy business. Then the nickel is shipped to Europe to be refined, then China to be made into batteries, then to Japan to be put into your ugly, cheaply made, under powered car. In the long run its friendlier to run a Range Rover than it is to run a Prius. Aha, but at least they're fuel efficient. A friend of mine has one. He drives it normally, not insanely fast or putters around slowly, just normally. He gets 44 mpg. If you want economic, buy a Golf Diesel. My boss's gets 48 - 52 mpg. And its not like the prius is a well made, solid car either. I'd rather get a wheel barrow, put a lawn mower engine on the back and cover it in tin foil. It'll be cheaper, perform better, safer and more economical. This is me continuing to hate on the Toyota Prius.

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                                  I believe it is men who created the "she" fashion for "important" items such as country, ship or car. I will bet that women, if let alone, will call it "he" ;)

                                  A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                  laurhino
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                                  I'm female, and all my computers have male names (Daedalus, Synergy, Kakos, Copernicus, Prometheus, and Asimov). They all have to have unique identifiers to be on the network anyway, so they might as well have actual names rather than being called main-desktop, main-laptop, etc. Having names for them also makes referring to them in conversation much easier, as I don't have to rattle off their purposes and specifications instead. Besides, people always named their ships, swords, etc -- all tools necessary to do their jobs. And that's basically what a computer is. In my experience, men that name their computers usually consider them to be female, and women that name their computers usually consider them to be male (though I have met a few exceptions to this). To me, names are always associated with a gender, so it's only natural that I consider my computers to have a gender as well.

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                                    I'm female, and all my computers have male names (Daedalus, Synergy, Kakos, Copernicus, Prometheus, and Asimov). They all have to have unique identifiers to be on the network anyway, so they might as well have actual names rather than being called main-desktop, main-laptop, etc. Having names for them also makes referring to them in conversation much easier, as I don't have to rattle off their purposes and specifications instead. Besides, people always named their ships, swords, etc -- all tools necessary to do their jobs. And that's basically what a computer is. In my experience, men that name their computers usually consider them to be female, and women that name their computers usually consider them to be male (though I have met a few exceptions to this). To me, names are always associated with a gender, so it's only natural that I consider my computers to have a gender as well.

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                                    Super Lloyd
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                                    I knew it! :-D Although sometimes people give gender neutral name, such as planets, animal specie, and such as well...

                                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                    • L leckey 0

                                      I have a habit of naming electronics and such. All my vehicles have Latino names. I usually call my computer "Piece of Crap" which I believe is gender neutral.

                                      Blog. http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                                      JDL EPM
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                                      leckey wrote:

                                      I usually call my computer "Piece of Crap" which I believe is gender neutral.

                                      Funny, I call mine a "Piece of she-it". which I believe is two-thirds gender neutral. :)

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                                      • K keyboard warrior

                                        do women say "she" in reference to their computers? i know i do. "oh she's had a rough day...got dropped in my messenger bag" "isn't she beautiful with the blue finish" "i stuck some new ram in her and she's a powerhouse now" maybe i just need to get out more...:~

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                                        SevenCPA
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                                        I believe it makes no sense to give a gender to computers, in English. However, they have gender in several other languages: German: Rechner (masculin); French: ordinateur (masculin); Portuguese: computador (masculin); Spanish: ordenador (masculin), or computadora (feminin).

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                                        • J John Oxley

                                          A Toyota Prius is not an environmentally friendly booger. Making the batteries involves nickel mining in Canada, a filthy business. Then the nickel is shipped to Europe to be refined, then China to be made into batteries, then to Japan to be put into your ugly, cheaply made, under powered car. In the long run its friendlier to run a Range Rover than it is to run a Prius. Aha, but at least they're fuel efficient. A friend of mine has one. He drives it normally, not insanely fast or putters around slowly, just normally. He gets 44 mpg. If you want economic, buy a Golf Diesel. My boss's gets 48 - 52 mpg. And its not like the prius is a well made, solid car either. I'd rather get a wheel barrow, put a lawn mower engine on the back and cover it in tin foil. It'll be cheaper, perform better, safer and more economical. This is me continuing to hate on the Toyota Prius.

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                                          Rich Leyshon
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                                          Careful, room 101 awaits for those heretics who choose to work with mere factual information and not obediently think the "correct" thing. Rich

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