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    Vagif Abilov
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    Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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      Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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      Since spam just grows and grows it must be lucrative. Do people actually buy stuff they get trough spam? ..who are those people? ..what is wrong with them?? :~ /Magnus


      - A dog who attends a flea circus most likely will steal the whole show

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        Since spam just grows and grows it must be lucrative. Do people actually buy stuff they get trough spam? ..who are those people? ..what is wrong with them?? :~ /Magnus


        - A dog who attends a flea circus most likely will steal the whole show

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        Vagif Abilov
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        Do people actually buy stuff they get trough spam? ..who are those people? Some of them are teenagers (I know my 13-years old daughter believes every spam letter she gets. Kids believe in Santa Claus). Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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        • V Vagif Abilov

          Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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          ColinDavies
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          OMG: Yes, thats real mean. Sell crud and abuse someones good name at the same time. I guess the only reason that spammers exist is because idiots use there products. Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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            Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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            Pavel Klocek
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            Similar to e-mail viruses which sends themselves with the sender set to a randomly selected e-mail from the address book of the infected. I've already got complaints about infected e-mails received from me, which I positively haven't sended. Sonork 100.15206;PavelK

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            • V Vagif Abilov

              Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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              John Burton
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              Does anyone actually believe the from address in spam anyway? Look at the received headers in the email, it's the only reliable way to determine where the mail really is from, and even then you may only be able to trace it to an open relay being abused by the spammer. www.spamcop.net lets you paste in the headers from a spam and determines who best to complain to about it, and will automatically send appropriate complaints if you like. I'd encourage everyone to complain about every spam to the ISP of the sender, or their upstream provider. The more complaints people receive the more likely they are to take the problem seriously.

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                Now this gets really annoying: http://www.angrycoder.com/article.aspx?cid=1&y=2002&m=7&d=22[^] So it's a new generation of spammers. They don't want to receive flame mail, so they put return email address of other (innocent people). What can we do about it? Not much :confused: Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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                Londo
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                It's happening to me. I've been getting email denied messages lately. When I investigated it turned out that some arseholes are using my email address as the origin for their porn and make money in two days bullshit. :mad::mad::mad: The only bright spot is that it is my old email address. I've recently gone up to broadband and changed my address of 5 years. That old dialup account will die when the hours run out. I have no love for these barstads. I'd love to see em strung up by the genitals and spun around!

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                  Does anyone actually believe the from address in spam anyway? Look at the received headers in the email, it's the only reliable way to determine where the mail really is from, and even then you may only be able to trace it to an open relay being abused by the spammer. www.spamcop.net lets you paste in the headers from a spam and determines who best to complain to about it, and will automatically send appropriate complaints if you like. I'd encourage everyone to complain about every spam to the ISP of the sender, or their upstream provider. The more complaints people receive the more likely they are to take the problem seriously.

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                  ColinDavies
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                  I agree, this one of the few things worth whining and complaining about. Regardz Colin J Davies

                  Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                    Does anyone actually believe the from address in spam anyway? Look at the received headers in the email, it's the only reliable way to determine where the mail really is from, and even then you may only be able to trace it to an open relay being abused by the spammer. www.spamcop.net lets you paste in the headers from a spam and determines who best to complain to about it, and will automatically send appropriate complaints if you like. I'd encourage everyone to complain about every spam to the ISP of the sender, or their upstream provider. The more complaints people receive the more likely they are to take the problem seriously.

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                    Blade DMS
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                    John Burton wrote: Look at the received headers in the email Any ideas how you do this in Outlook 2000 (or XP)...:confused: You don't even seem able to save the original e-mail to a text file any more...:mad: Blade[DMS]

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                      John Burton wrote: Look at the received headers in the email Any ideas how you do this in Outlook 2000 (or XP)...:confused: You don't even seem able to save the original e-mail to a text file any more...:mad: Blade[DMS]

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                      John Burton
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                      They don't make this easy to find. Double click the message to get it displayed in its own window. Then choose View/Options from the menu of that window and in the dialog you will find the "internet headers". At least that's what works on the version of outlook I have here.

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                        John Burton wrote: Look at the received headers in the email Any ideas how you do this in Outlook 2000 (or XP)...:confused: You don't even seem able to save the original e-mail to a text file any more...:mad: Blade[DMS]

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                        Daniel Turini
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                        Blade[DMS] wrote: Any ideas how you do this in Outlook 2000 (or XP)... Right-button click/Options Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.

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                          Does anyone actually believe the from address in spam anyway? Look at the received headers in the email, it's the only reliable way to determine where the mail really is from, and even then you may only be able to trace it to an open relay being abused by the spammer. www.spamcop.net lets you paste in the headers from a spam and determines who best to complain to about it, and will automatically send appropriate complaints if you like. I'd encourage everyone to complain about every spam to the ISP of the sender, or their upstream provider. The more complaints people receive the more likely they are to take the problem seriously.

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                          Colin Leitner
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                          John Burton wrote: I'd encourage everyone to complain about every spam to the ISP of the sender You must be kidding! This could only be done by automatic upload.

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                            Since spam just grows and grows it must be lucrative. Do people actually buy stuff they get trough spam? ..who are those people? ..what is wrong with them?? :~ /Magnus


                            - A dog who attends a flea circus most likely will steal the whole show

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                            Part of the problem is the economics of the situation. Spammers can send email to thousands of people at virtually no cost. If anyone at all buys something, they make a profit. And even if no one buys their product, they're not very much in the red and high hopes keep them sending the email. If spammers were required to pay 10 cents per spam email, you'd see a big decline in the number of spammers because they'd have to sell a lot more products just to break even. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips

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