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  • M Mohammad Dayyan

    Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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    John M Drescher
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    It depends. Does it have 4 GB of memory or more and is it at least a dual core machine? If either of these answers are no than stick with XP.

    John

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    • C Colin Angus Mackay

      Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

      it's good to use Windows Vista now ?

      Yes. It was always good if you had a powerful enough PC

      Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

      Why?

      Because it is better than XP. It is faster than XP (it shifts a lot of the graphics processing onto the video card, which XP never did, freeing up the process to do other things). It has better memory management (it caches things more effectivly so that your programs respond quicker). If a hardware driver fails it just keeps on going by restarting the driver, or failing over into a default driver. Wireless networking is much easier. Power management is easier. There are, however, caveats. Read two of my recent blog entries about Visual Studio and SQL Server on Vista. Visual Studio / SQL Server install order[^] and Installing SQL Server 2005 on Windows Vista[^]. Also, from some time ago, Visual Studio 2005 on Vista[^]. Also, I don't know if this was fixed in SP1, but the original Vista installer didn't like multiple monitors being plugged in at installation time.[^].

      Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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      Mohammad Dayyan
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      Nice reply. Thank you very much.

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      • J John M Drescher

        It depends. Does it have 4 GB of memory or more and is it at least a dual core machine? If either of these answers are no than stick with XP.

        John

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        Mohammad Dayyan
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        Wow :wtf:

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        • M Mohammad Dayyan

          Wow :wtf:

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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          I am running Vista perfectly happily with just 2Gb of RAM.

          Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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            I am running Vista perfectly happily with just 2Gb of RAM.

            Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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            Mohammad Dayyan
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            oooff. He scared me :|

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            • M Mohammad Dayyan

              Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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              Christian Graus
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              Yes. Because everyone else is and you'll be stuck with it eventually. But, do a LOT of reading first, Vista does a lot of stuff that was never properly explained by Microsoft, especially to developers, which is the other reason you need it. Your app probably doesn't work on Vista, and you need to come to grips with why, if you have users who use Vista.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                I am running Vista perfectly happily with just 2Gb of RAM.

                Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                Dirk Higbee
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                I have a P4 1.8GHz with 1GB RAM and mine works just fine.

                Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                • D Dirk Higbee

                  I have a P4 1.8GHz with 1GB RAM and mine works just fine.

                  Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                  John M Drescher
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                  Just a lot slower than XP with the same hardware.

                  John

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                  • M Mohammad Dayyan

                    oooff. He scared me :|

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                    John M Drescher
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                    4GB of memory (2 x 2GB PC6400 DDR2) can be had in the US for less than $85 so I did not think this was too bad but I guess it is more expensive in other parts of the world.

                    John

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Yes. Because everyone else is and you'll be stuck with it eventually. But, do a LOT of reading first, Vista does a lot of stuff that was never properly explained by Microsoft, especially to developers, which is the other reason you need it. Your app probably doesn't work on Vista, and you need to come to grips with why, if you have users who use Vista.

                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                      Mohammad Dayyan
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                      OK. Thank you

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Yes. Because everyone else is and you'll be stuck with it eventually. But, do a LOT of reading first, Vista does a lot of stuff that was never properly explained by Microsoft, especially to developers, which is the other reason you need it. Your app probably doesn't work on Vista, and you need to come to grips with why, if you have users who use Vista.

                        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                        Dirk Higbee
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Your app probably doesn't work on Vista

                        After it's done? I'm working on an app and what I have done so far works fine. It's still in production but I debug often and all is well so far. Of course I'm using VB.net so that's probably why. :)

                        Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          Just a lot slower than XP with the same hardware.

                          John

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                          Dirk Higbee
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                          I wouldn't know. The last time I used XP I had a 2.9GHZ Celeron D with 512MB RAM and it was slower than this box I'm on now.

                          Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                            I wouldn't know. The last time I used XP I had a 2.9GHZ Celeron D with 512MB RAM and it was slower than this box I'm on now.

                            Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                            John M Drescher
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                            The 512 MB of RAM probably was the problem.

                            John

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                            • J John M Drescher

                              The 512 MB of RAM probably was the problem.

                              John

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                              Dirk Higbee
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                              And the Celeron D. It's a horrible processor and slower than my P4. I swapped it out when I got Vista.

                              Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                                And the Celeron D. It's a horrible processor and slower than my P4. I swapped it out when I got Vista.

                                Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                                John M Drescher
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                                I did not think it was slower than the 1.8GHz P4 but it was designed to be significantly slower than the Pentium D processors so as to not draw away from the top chip.

                                John

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                                • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                  Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                  Perspx
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                                  It's been fine for me except was a real pain to set up - had to try 5 network cards to find one that was compatible, and remove all of my PCI cards during the install.. But that was a year ago so things mught have changed now :) Regards, --Perspx

                                  "The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia

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                                  • D Dirk Higbee

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Your app probably doesn't work on Vista

                                    After it's done? I'm working on an app and what I have done so far works fine. It's still in production but I debug often and all is well so far. Of course I'm using VB.net so that's probably why. :)

                                    Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Anyting that is written on Vista, will work, of course. But I'm saying that a lot of older apps probably would need changing.

                                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                      oooff. He scared me :|

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      I'm running Vista on a dual core 2G laptop. It's fine. I still prefer XP though. Simpler, faster, more stable, my older PCIMCIA cards work correctly. Marc

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                                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                        Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

                                        it's good to use Windows Vista now ?

                                        Yes. It was always good if you had a powerful enough PC

                                        Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

                                        Why?

                                        Because it is better than XP. It is faster than XP (it shifts a lot of the graphics processing onto the video card, which XP never did, freeing up the process to do other things). It has better memory management (it caches things more effectivly so that your programs respond quicker). If a hardware driver fails it just keeps on going by restarting the driver, or failing over into a default driver. Wireless networking is much easier. Power management is easier. There are, however, caveats. Read two of my recent blog entries about Visual Studio and SQL Server on Vista. Visual Studio / SQL Server install order[^] and Installing SQL Server 2005 on Windows Vista[^]. Also, from some time ago, Visual Studio 2005 on Vista[^]. Also, I don't know if this was fixed in SP1, but the original Vista installer didn't like multiple monitors being plugged in at installation time.[^].

                                        Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                                        Ed Poore
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                                        Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                                        • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                          Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                          My work laptop is XP2 so I switched my personal laptop to Vista so I can be prepared in case the eventual switch ever occurs. I think some of the WPF things are neat, however, when I look at how much juice is draws from the laptop I wonder if companies have looked at the overhead cost of even developing in Vista. If your PC is drawing 200W/hrs to run a simple business app * 200 users that is a lot of power compared to the low draw that can be achieved with SP2 and an LCD. Heck, most of my apps business apps run near idle. But yet, I run Vista, no real reason.

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