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  • D Dirk Higbee

    I wouldn't know. The last time I used XP I had a 2.9GHZ Celeron D with 512MB RAM and it was slower than this box I'm on now.

    Beauty is only a light switch away.

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    John M Drescher
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    The 512 MB of RAM probably was the problem.

    John

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    • J John M Drescher

      The 512 MB of RAM probably was the problem.

      John

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      Dirk Higbee
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      And the Celeron D. It's a horrible processor and slower than my P4. I swapped it out when I got Vista.

      Beauty is only a light switch away.

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      • D Dirk Higbee

        And the Celeron D. It's a horrible processor and slower than my P4. I swapped it out when I got Vista.

        Beauty is only a light switch away.

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        John M Drescher
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        I did not think it was slower than the 1.8GHz P4 but it was designed to be significantly slower than the Pentium D processors so as to not draw away from the top chip.

        John

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        • M Mohammad Dayyan

          Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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          Perspx
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          It's been fine for me except was a real pain to set up - had to try 5 network cards to find one that was compatible, and remove all of my PCI cards during the install.. But that was a year ago so things mught have changed now :) Regards, --Perspx

          "The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia

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          • D Dirk Higbee

            Christian Graus wrote:

            Your app probably doesn't work on Vista

            After it's done? I'm working on an app and what I have done so far works fine. It's still in production but I debug often and all is well so far. Of course I'm using VB.net so that's probably why. :)

            Beauty is only a light switch away.

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            Christian Graus
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            Anyting that is written on Vista, will work, of course. But I'm saying that a lot of older apps probably would need changing.

            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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            • M Mohammad Dayyan

              oooff. He scared me :|

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              Marc Clifton
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              I'm running Vista on a dual core 2G laptop. It's fine. I still prefer XP though. Simpler, faster, more stable, my older PCIMCIA cards work correctly. Marc

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              • C Colin Angus Mackay

                Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

                it's good to use Windows Vista now ?

                Yes. It was always good if you had a powerful enough PC

                Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

                Why?

                Because it is better than XP. It is faster than XP (it shifts a lot of the graphics processing onto the video card, which XP never did, freeing up the process to do other things). It has better memory management (it caches things more effectivly so that your programs respond quicker). If a hardware driver fails it just keeps on going by restarting the driver, or failing over into a default driver. Wireless networking is much easier. Power management is easier. There are, however, caveats. Read two of my recent blog entries about Visual Studio and SQL Server on Vista. Visual Studio / SQL Server install order[^] and Installing SQL Server 2005 on Windows Vista[^]. Also, from some time ago, Visual Studio 2005 on Vista[^]. Also, I don't know if this was fixed in SP1, but the original Vista installer didn't like multiple monitors being plugged in at installation time.[^].

                Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                Ed Poore
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                Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                • M Mohammad Dayyan

                  Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  My work laptop is XP2 so I switched my personal laptop to Vista so I can be prepared in case the eventual switch ever occurs. I think some of the WPF things are neat, however, when I look at how much juice is draws from the laptop I wonder if companies have looked at the overhead cost of even developing in Vista. If your PC is drawing 200W/hrs to run a simple business app * 200 users that is a lot of power compared to the low draw that can be achieved with SP2 and an LCD. Heck, most of my apps business apps run near idle. But yet, I run Vista, no real reason.

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                  • M Member 96

                    Yes. I've been using it as my main development OS for well over a year, it's faster, more stable, more secure, better looking. Be sure to read up on all the new features and how they work lest you try it, get confused and or frustrated and then start posting here about how much is sucks as other less than dilligent or professional people have in the past.


                    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                    Lost User
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                    It's not faster though, unless you have say 8GB ram? It definitely isn't faster than XP with 4GB ram Unless of course you compare vista on a new comp with xp and an old comp - as is done all too often.. What really bugs me about it is that it pretends it's not my computer anymore unless you ho waaayyy out of your way to fix it

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      I am running Vista perfectly happily with just 2Gb of RAM.

                      Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                      The Cake of Deceit
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                      In fact, I run Vista with 1GB. (not pulling your leg)

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                      • E Ed Poore

                        Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                        Ed.Poore wrote:

                        any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?

                        Sorry, I don't yet have any experience with x64 versions.

                        Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                          Ed.Poore wrote:

                          any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?

                          Sorry, I don't yet have any experience with x64 versions.

                          Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Tip of the Day - SysInternals * Meme My Blog

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                          How did I know that was going to be the answer :rolleyes:

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                            It's not faster though, unless you have say 8GB ram? It definitely isn't faster than XP with 4GB ram Unless of course you compare vista on a new comp with xp and an old comp - as is done all too often.. What really bugs me about it is that it pretends it's not my computer anymore unless you ho waaayyy out of your way to fix it

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                            Lost User
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                            Unless you're using 64 Bit it doesn't use more then 3Gb Ram - so anything over 3Gb is just a waste of cash (as far as Vista goes) "the maximum memory available in 32-bit versions of Windows Vista is typically 3.12 GB." from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[^]

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                              It's not faster though, unless you have say 8GB ram? It definitely isn't faster than XP with 4GB ram Unless of course you compare vista on a new comp with xp and an old comp - as is done all too often.. What really bugs me about it is that it pretends it's not my computer anymore unless you ho waaayyy out of your way to fix it

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                              harold aptroot wrote:

                              It definitely isn't faster than XP with 4GB ram

                              :sigh: Of course it's faster, try profiling it. I profiled all my most commonly used apps before I switched to Vista from XP on an identical computer, Vista can't help but be faster in many critical areas most noticeably running applications.


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                              • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Define "good to use?" SP1, plus other updates since, plus hardware manufactures getting their act together, have fixed many of the initial complaints with Vista. It's up to you whether you like the new UI and whether you have hardware that will support Aero, or if you are happy with Vista basic. It's an OS. At a fundamental level it's more advanced and secure than XP. But whether or not it's right for you is something only you can answer.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                • E Ed Poore

                                  Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                                  I run x64 and don't have any problems with either. I believe I installed SQL Server first.


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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    Anyting that is written on Vista, will work, of course. But I'm saying that a lot of older apps probably would need changing.

                                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                    Haven't come across any app that run in XP but gives problems in Vista, with the exception of driver related issues.


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                                    • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                      Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                      si618
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                                      FWIW, I'm going with Windows Server 2008[^] instead of Vista for my new dev box.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Define "good to use?" SP1, plus other updates since, plus hardware manufactures getting their act together, have fixed many of the initial complaints with Vista. It's up to you whether you like the new UI and whether you have hardware that will support Aero, or if you are happy with Vista basic. It's an OS. At a fundamental level it's more advanced and secure than XP. But whether or not it's right for you is something only you can answer.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        Paul Selormey
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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        At a fundamental level it's more advanced and secure than XP

                                        In which way is it more secured? Is it the continues popup you get - what is even the name of that feature? Vista is a new OS and not yet really field tested, so the least we want to hear is that more secure stuff. Last year I upgraded my internet to broadband, my provider was advertising "more secure" on the TV. I ordered the upgrade just to be sent Mcfee anti-virus CD as the "more secure". To me buying a new PC with Vista might make sense, but to pop it on a current PC, there seems to be no reason. Best regards, Paul.

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                                        • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                          Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                          Paul Conrad
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                                          Mohammad Dayyan wrote:

                                          it's good to use Windows Vista now ?

                                          It's okay once you get it to settle down a bit.

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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