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  • G G Franklin

    Paul, Sorry you missed the clues. I was hoping for at least a chuckle if not a LOL ... but not a WTF. Ok. My bad. But I still think there is room for discussion. "And I remember a long time ago, when we threw 0s and 1s at the computer ... we constantly ran out of 1s."

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    Pete OHanlon
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    g.CoderCat wrote:

    I was hoping for at least a chuckle if not a LOL

    Okey dokey - perhaps you should have used the Joke icon then.

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      g.CoderCat wrote:

      I was hoping for at least a chuckle if not a LOL

      Okey dokey - perhaps you should have used the Joke icon then.

      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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      Wow ... do you need icons to tell you when to laugh? The world is going to hell in a laugh-track basket.

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        Wow ... do you need icons to tell you when to laugh? The world is going to hell in a laugh-track basket.

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        Pete OHanlon
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        g.CoderCat wrote:

        do you need icons to tell you when to laugh?

        Only when the "joke" isn't apparent. Just because it makes you fall out of your chair doesn't mean that it will even make me raise the merest part of a chuckle.

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          g.CoderCat wrote:

          do you need icons to tell you when to laugh?

          Only when the "joke" isn't apparent. Just because it makes you fall out of your chair doesn't mean that it will even make me raise the merest part of a chuckle.

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          Pete, If you miss the clues, fine, you need icons. It may be the case that others do not need icons (or laugh tracks) to get some fun or ideas out of it. Why put down something and possibly ruin it for others? Do you speak for everyone? So now this "topic of discussion" is flagged WTF. Nobody would want to even try to discuss the topic, because they too might be branded WTF. And this side thread seals the deal ... noone will ever want to discuss or investigate something I genuinely thought would be fun and interesting to discuss. There will be no more discussion here. The judges have spoken WTF (sound of gong in background). Over and out.

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            Pete, If you miss the clues, fine, you need icons. It may be the case that others do not need icons (or laugh tracks) to get some fun or ideas out of it. Why put down something and possibly ruin it for others? Do you speak for everyone? So now this "topic of discussion" is flagged WTF. Nobody would want to even try to discuss the topic, because they too might be branded WTF. And this side thread seals the deal ... noone will ever want to discuss or investigate something I genuinely thought would be fun and interesting to discuss. There will be no more discussion here. The judges have spoken WTF (sound of gong in background). Over and out.

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            Pete OHanlon
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            g.CoderCat wrote:

            Why put down something and possibly ruin it for others?

            Where did I do this? I merely stated that you the joke icon would have been clearer if you were wanting to use a bit of humour. If you want critique, then fine - the original post is far too long, and far too matey to grab my attention. Forcing me to scroll down so far in a post is a sure way to lose people - and stop them reading it. Now, I didn't vote the post a WTF, but really - step back and view it dispassionately. While the core of your idea was probably sound, could you not have covered it in a smaller post, whereby you would have had more positive feedback.

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              g.CoderCat wrote:

              Why put down something and possibly ruin it for others?

              Where did I do this? I merely stated that you the joke icon would have been clearer if you were wanting to use a bit of humour. If you want critique, then fine - the original post is far too long, and far too matey to grab my attention. Forcing me to scroll down so far in a post is a sure way to lose people - and stop them reading it. Now, I didn't vote the post a WTF, but really - step back and view it dispassionately. While the core of your idea was probably sound, could you not have covered it in a smaller post, whereby you would have had more positive feedback.

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              Pete, Thank you for your feedback. Sorry, did not mean to put you in the WTFer catagory. Yes, it was a long post, kind of blogish. But as such, it had no more words than a small article in a daily newspaper or any one of the CodeProject articles. The example code took up a good part of the post ... probably should have left that out. But: When is it the responsibilty of the writer to spoon-feed the reader? IE: engage the reader, keep it short and simple, place icons appropriately. And when is it the reader's responsibily to pick up and use their own spoon? IE willingness be challanged and to explore the unreviewed and uncatagorized, deciding on their own what they get out of it? That was, in fact, the point of the article. Engage the brain and read the code. Suffer through the blogish like code and articles (guilty). Force yourself to scroll down. It may bring rewards. Is this really ArticlesProject.com?

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                Pete, Thank you for your feedback. Sorry, did not mean to put you in the WTFer catagory. Yes, it was a long post, kind of blogish. But as such, it had no more words than a small article in a daily newspaper or any one of the CodeProject articles. The example code took up a good part of the post ... probably should have left that out. But: When is it the responsibilty of the writer to spoon-feed the reader? IE: engage the reader, keep it short and simple, place icons appropriately. And when is it the reader's responsibily to pick up and use their own spoon? IE willingness be challanged and to explore the unreviewed and uncatagorized, deciding on their own what they get out of it? That was, in fact, the point of the article. Engage the brain and read the code. Suffer through the blogish like code and articles (guilty). Force yourself to scroll down. It may bring rewards. Is this really ArticlesProject.com?

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                g.CoderCat wrote:

                Yes, it was a long post, kind of blogish

                Then it should have been a blog. Don't get me wrong, I did find it an interesting diversion, but the forums aren't really the place for it. They are just formatted all wrong to cope well with this. Instead, why not put it in a blog in it's full format, and then include a summarised version here (with a link to your blog post)?

                g.CoderCat wrote:

                Is this really ArticlesProject.com?

                Well, that's effectively where CP started. There's still a heavy leaning towards this.

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                  g.CoderCat wrote:

                  Yes, it was a long post, kind of blogish

                  Then it should have been a blog. Don't get me wrong, I did find it an interesting diversion, but the forums aren't really the place for it. They are just formatted all wrong to cope well with this. Instead, why not put it in a blog in it's full format, and then include a summarised version here (with a link to your blog post)?

                  g.CoderCat wrote:

                  Is this really ArticlesProject.com?

                  Well, that's effectively where CP started. There's still a heavy leaning towards this.

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                  G Franklin
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                  Thank you ... yes, I am learning.

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                  • G G Franklin

                    Paul, Sorry you missed the clues. I was hoping for at least a chuckle if not a LOL ... but not a WTF. Ok. My bad. But I still think there is room for discussion. "And I remember a long time ago, when we threw 0s and 1s at the computer ... we constantly ran out of 1s."

                    g.CoderCat

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                    Scott Dorman
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                    You probably would have had better luck in the lounge or possibly the soapbox, not here.

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                    • G G Franklin

                      Pete, Thank you for your feedback. Sorry, did not mean to put you in the WTFer catagory. Yes, it was a long post, kind of blogish. But as such, it had no more words than a small article in a daily newspaper or any one of the CodeProject articles. The example code took up a good part of the post ... probably should have left that out. But: When is it the responsibilty of the writer to spoon-feed the reader? IE: engage the reader, keep it short and simple, place icons appropriately. And when is it the reader's responsibily to pick up and use their own spoon? IE willingness be challanged and to explore the unreviewed and uncatagorized, deciding on their own what they get out of it? That was, in fact, the point of the article. Engage the brain and read the code. Suffer through the blogish like code and articles (guilty). Force yourself to scroll down. It may bring rewards. Is this really ArticlesProject.com?

                      g.CoderCat

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                      g.CoderCat wrote:

                      That was, in fact, the point of the article.

                      Yeah I think that's what lost me. This isn't where you post articles, just ideas about articles.

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