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  • S Sandeep Datta

    I have been a CPian for more than three and a half years now and I am tired of being tagged as a "browser". I think producing an article suitable for code project will prove to be a time consuming affair (I am a bit of a perfectionist). This is one reason why in spite of many article ideas I have desisted from writing one. I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive? My point being I already have a silver rating (thanks for that) and I wont get to gold until I write 15 articles at the very least! Consider the CP member classification rules... 1) By number of articles: 1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5A-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. 2) Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a member has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level until the member hits Silver. IMHO I think the classification should depend on a linear combination of the following factors... 1) Period of membership 2) Number of messages posted 3) Number of articles written For example if you are already silver and then write 5 articles, you qualify as gold! What do you think?

    The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    SDX2000 wrote:

    What do you think?

    To me, these classifications are totally meaningless, and is not worth wasting time discussing about.

    Please leave us our small pleasures, they are small, but they are ours! - Mycroft Holmes ^ .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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    • Z Zoltan Balazs

      I think this was discussed many times before. There are other reasons for publishing an article than some obscure membership level. Also there is a Suggestions/Site bugs forum for these questions.

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      Sandeep Datta
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      Zoltan Balazs wrote:

      There are other reasons for publishing an article than some obscure membership level.

      Agreed but I guess it wont hurt if one gets a membership level promotion!

      Zoltan Balazs wrote:

      Also there is a Suggestions/Site bugs forum for these questions.

      Ok thanks for the info but I think its too late now, cross posting is an offense here unless you can tell me how to move my post from one forum to another! (Simply deleting my post and re-posting it will not work since other posts need to be moved too)

      The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        SDX2000 wrote:

        What do you think?

        To me, these classifications are totally meaningless, and is not worth wasting time discussing about.

        Please leave us our small pleasures, they are small, but they are ours! - Mycroft Holmes ^ .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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        Sandeep Datta
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        Then why have them? Let's get rid of this system.

        The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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        • S Sandeep Datta

          Then why have them? Let's get rid of this system.

          The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          SDX2000 wrote:

          Then why have them? Let's get rid of this system.

          So, that sounds like a suggestion. Go to the suggestions forum. Even then, you would most probably not be entertained, because this (and the voting system) has been discussed over and over, several times. Also, with a post count of 30 odd messages in 3 years, I doubt you would have noticed any of those discussions. IMHO, You must worry more about participating and contributing a little more than worrying about membership level, etc.,

          Please leave us our small pleasures, they are small, but they are ours! - Mycroft Holmes ^ .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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          • S Sandeep Datta

            I have been a CPian for more than three and a half years now and I am tired of being tagged as a "browser". I think producing an article suitable for code project will prove to be a time consuming affair (I am a bit of a perfectionist). This is one reason why in spite of many article ideas I have desisted from writing one. I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive? My point being I already have a silver rating (thanks for that) and I wont get to gold until I write 15 articles at the very least! Consider the CP member classification rules... 1) By number of articles: 1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5A-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. 2) Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a member has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level until the member hits Silver. IMHO I think the classification should depend on a linear combination of the following factors... 1) Period of membership 2) Number of messages posted 3) Number of articles written For example if you are already silver and then write 5 articles, you qualify as gold! What do you think?

            The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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            Christian Graus
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            The idea that some classification on this website should be your sole motivation is the reason so many people try to answer questions they cannot in a vain attempt to gain CPMVP status. Write to learn, and to help, and accept whatever level you end up with.

            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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            • C Christian Graus

              The idea that some classification on this website should be your sole motivation is the reason so many people try to answer questions they cannot in a vain attempt to gain CPMVP status. Write to learn, and to help, and accept whatever level you end up with.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              _Damian S_
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              I notice most of these comments are coming from people with little diamond shaped Bob icons... ;) /sarc

              -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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              • C Christian Graus

                The idea that some classification on this website should be your sole motivation is the reason so many people try to answer questions they cannot in a vain attempt to gain CPMVP status. Write to learn, and to help, and accept whatever level you end up with.

                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                Sandeep Datta
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                The idea that some classification on this website should be your sole motivation is the reason so many people try to answer questions they cannot in a vain attempt to gain CPMVP status.

                Just FYI I have never posted any message to gain CPMVP. Like Rajesh said I have barely posted enough messages to show that I have been an active CPian over the years. Though I can assure you that I have been an active "browser". I am an introvert by nature and don't usually have much to say on most occasions, the 40 odd posts in 3.5 years are a reflection of this.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Write to learn, and to help, and accept whatever level you end up with.

                A noble goal indeed, worthy of pursuit.

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                • S Sandeep Datta

                  I have been a CPian for more than three and a half years now and I am tired of being tagged as a "browser". I think producing an article suitable for code project will prove to be a time consuming affair (I am a bit of a perfectionist). This is one reason why in spite of many article ideas I have desisted from writing one. I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive? My point being I already have a silver rating (thanks for that) and I wont get to gold until I write 15 articles at the very least! Consider the CP member classification rules... 1) By number of articles: 1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5A-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. 2) Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a member has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level until the member hits Silver. IMHO I think the classification should depend on a linear combination of the following factors... 1) Period of membership 2) Number of messages posted 3) Number of articles written For example if you are already silver and then write 5 articles, you qualify as gold! What do you think?

                  The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  SDX2000 wrote:

                  I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive?

                  You can use the articles to show prospective employers that you know your stuff. Or to show to your existing employer that you are valuable (and hopefully get a raise)

                  Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog

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                  • S Sandeep Datta

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    The idea that some classification on this website should be your sole motivation is the reason so many people try to answer questions they cannot in a vain attempt to gain CPMVP status.

                    Just FYI I have never posted any message to gain CPMVP. Like Rajesh said I have barely posted enough messages to show that I have been an active CPian over the years. Though I can assure you that I have been an active "browser". I am an introvert by nature and don't usually have much to say on most occasions, the 40 odd posts in 3.5 years are a reflection of this.

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Write to learn, and to help, and accept whatever level you end up with.

                    A noble goal indeed, worthy of pursuit.

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    SDX2000 wrote:

                    I am an introvert by nature and don't usually have much to say on most occasions

                    Most developers are. That's why most developers that want to express themselves write article rather than get up in front of an audience.

                    Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      SDX2000 wrote:

                      I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive?

                      You can use the articles to show prospective employers that you know your stuff. Or to show to your existing employer that you are valuable (and hopefully get a raise)

                      Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog

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                      Sandeep Datta
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                      w00t! We now have at least three good reasons for writing for CP... 1. Its a good learning experience! 2. Earn goodwill by helping others. 3. Its a good way of showcasing your talents.

                      The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                        SDX2000 wrote:

                        I am an introvert by nature and don't usually have much to say on most occasions

                        Most developers are. That's why most developers that want to express themselves write article rather than get up in front of an audience.

                        Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog

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                        I think the nature is changing though as developers now have to make more presentations in front of people. Developers need to be more outgoing and confident in front of audiences.

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                        • E eyeseetee

                          I think the nature is changing though as developers now have to make more presentations in front of people. Developers need to be more outgoing and confident in front of audiences.

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          Maybe - But I've worked with developers that were painfully shy and quiet, but absolutely brilliant at writing software. If the team is diverse enough the shy one can build a relationship with a more out going developer and have the out going developer do the talking in a business situation.

                          Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog

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                          • S Sandeep Datta

                            I have been a CPian for more than three and a half years now and I am tired of being tagged as a "browser". I think producing an article suitable for code project will prove to be a time consuming affair (I am a bit of a perfectionist). This is one reason why in spite of many article ideas I have desisted from writing one. I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive? My point being I already have a silver rating (thanks for that) and I wont get to gold until I write 15 articles at the very least! Consider the CP member classification rules... 1) By number of articles: 1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5A-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. 2) Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a member has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level until the member hits Silver. IMHO I think the classification should depend on a linear combination of the following factors... 1) Period of membership 2) Number of messages posted 3) Number of articles written For example if you are already silver and then write 5 articles, you qualify as gold! What do you think?

                            The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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                            The idea is to get people to EARN the higher levels instead of making them automatic. Truth be told, I think you should have to work even harder, meaning you MUST post 5 articles to make silver, and you MUST post 15 articles to make Gold. There's no such thing as a free ride.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              The idea is to get people to EARN the higher levels instead of making them automatic. Truth be told, I think you should have to work even harder, meaning you MUST post 5 articles to make silver, and you MUST post 15 articles to make Gold. There's no such thing as a free ride.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              The idea is to get people to EARN the higher levels instead of making them automatic

                              I agree - and I think that each year the qualification should get harder; why not insist on 250 messages or 5 articles each year or you get downgraded?

                              "If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone." Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War. .

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                              • S Sandeep Datta

                                I have been a CPian for more than three and a half years now and I am tired of being tagged as a "browser". I think producing an article suitable for code project will prove to be a time consuming affair (I am a bit of a perfectionist). This is one reason why in spite of many article ideas I have desisted from writing one. I think its high time now that I wrote a few articles but where's the incentive? My point being I already have a silver rating (thanks for that) and I wont get to gold until I write 15 articles at the very least! Consider the CP member classification rules... 1) By number of articles: 1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5A-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. 2) Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a member has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level until the member hits Silver. IMHO I think the classification should depend on a linear combination of the following factors... 1) Period of membership 2) Number of messages posted 3) Number of articles written For example if you are already silver and then write 5 articles, you qualify as gold! What do you think?

                                The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is at 9.8m/sec-sec - Marcus Dolengo

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                                "You haven't truly mastered a subject until you've taught it." -- (Haven't found attribution)

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