a vote about working efficiency
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Thanks, Lloyd (my dad's name, btw). But I'd always thought that poetry was composed of dreams of how the world should be, and prose of the vision of the way the world really is. I think my description belongs in the prose category - but I'm no expert... :)
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Very good name! I'm not sure the world is just like that, but I always find the curmudgeon attitude quite funny! :cool:
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Last couple of hours before sleeping is most efficient for me I think... not sure if it's the realisation that the day really *is* running out, or that may brain's too tired to accomodate any other thoughts except the job at hand. :doh:
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Depends how I feel in the morning...
-------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!
I agree, and it usually depends on how good the coffee was :)
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I find it better after a couple :beer:s.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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If you define "morning" as "period of the day where most people are still at sleep, or at least out of office"... Yes. On the other hand, it's not unnormal with a slight performance peek in the late friday afternoons :laugh: Cheers /Jonas
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Personally I definitely work better in the morning, but this is for a number of reasons. I work from home so start before the office wakes up so nobody is interrupting me but also my mind is clearer first thing. Depending on the task and my current level of motivation my productivity may fall a bit or a lot as the day goes on. This depends a lot on the number of interruptions - this is easy to realise as if I work after the office is closed my productivity goes back up! One thing I need to do is to pay attention to who said don't check emails in the morning. This can end up taking you off on 50 different tangients from the task(s) you'd planned for the day and when the dust has settled you're brain is full of mush. As I write this I'm just turning off the Outlook new mail pop up, should have done that a long time ago....
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I couldn't disagree more. People's metabolisms vary widely, and it's not something you can change by corporate policy. I function at my peak between 2PM and 9PM, and I always have. My company starts work at 7AM and quits at 4PM. Over the past three years I've learned to wake up in time (5AM) to get to work, but I can't function until about 9 or so. Neither can anyone else. That means I take a lot of work home, because it just isn't physically or mentally possible to do it during working hours. And I'm not the only one. An electrical utility, our company has office staff (me, the accountant, the customer service lady, the meter guy, and the boss), and outside staff (linemen). The linemen start at 5AM in Summer to avoid the peak heat of the day, which can easily exceed 120°F, and quit by 1PM. They arrive on time, but get nothing done until 7AM, and usually want to quit by 11AM. In the office, we arrive at 7AM, but can get nothing done until 9AM because no other company we deal with opens until then. That's just as well, because none of us is in any mood to work until then, anyway. Most of our morning time is spent doing brainless administrative stuff that does little to accomplish our goals. We all tend to arrive with a plan in mind for the day, but until 9 or 10 we can't remember what the plan was. By then the boss shows up, and his priorities have changed overnight, so anything we'd planned on doing is out the window. In summary, any claim that mornings are more productive is corporate bullshit, promulgated by idiots who wake up early because they have nothing better to do with their useless, empty lives.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Someone here is disgruntled about his work and taking it out on others!
Roger Wright wrote:
idiots who wake up early because they have nothing better to do with their useless, empty lives.
And just for the record, I AM a morning guy. I get to the office at 7:00am to 7:30am before most people do. The quiet and lack of interruptions allow me to get much more work done than throughout the rest of the day. Great minds think alike, creative minds think originally.
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Of course there's no right or wrong answer to this but you know that already right? :) People have differing biological clocks which makes them more efficient and productive at differing times of the 24 hour cycle from each other.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
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I like to work in the mornings, too. The best time for me is when it's not so bright yet outside and it's quiet. But unfortunately I tend to start my day with a cup of coffee, mail, news and forums so usually it's already 10AM before I start working. :D I almost never use the computer in the evenings, so morning is the best (and only) time that I can read news and some articles.
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It depends on the kind of work. Grunt work is best done in the morning. Planning is best done in the evening.
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If you define working efficiently as 'getting stuff done', I tend to find I get more done after 4:30-5pm, when the potential interruptions start going home...
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The morning is the worst time for me to get into coding. I am a naturally late-to-bed and late-to-rise type of person and being in office at 8:30 am is one of the most difficult things to do ;P I normally prefer to perform the routine tasks, check overs and maintenance things in the first half of the day. The best time when my coding mode, logics and speed is on peak starts from 4:00pm. My office is off at 6:30 pm but its not rare when I am in full flow, I use to sit in office at least till 8:30 pm. Bottom Line - My coding modes starts in the early evening. Morning is normally dull coding wise... :omg: Khurram.
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I couldn't disagree more. People's metabolisms vary widely, and it's not something you can change by corporate policy. I function at my peak between 2PM and 9PM, and I always have. My company starts work at 7AM and quits at 4PM. Over the past three years I've learned to wake up in time (5AM) to get to work, but I can't function until about 9 or so. Neither can anyone else. That means I take a lot of work home, because it just isn't physically or mentally possible to do it during working hours. And I'm not the only one. An electrical utility, our company has office staff (me, the accountant, the customer service lady, the meter guy, and the boss), and outside staff (linemen). The linemen start at 5AM in Summer to avoid the peak heat of the day, which can easily exceed 120°F, and quit by 1PM. They arrive on time, but get nothing done until 7AM, and usually want to quit by 11AM. In the office, we arrive at 7AM, but can get nothing done until 9AM because no other company we deal with opens until then. That's just as well, because none of us is in any mood to work until then, anyway. Most of our morning time is spent doing brainless administrative stuff that does little to accomplish our goals. We all tend to arrive with a plan in mind for the day, but until 9 or 10 we can't remember what the plan was. By then the boss shows up, and his priorities have changed overnight, so anything we'd planned on doing is out the window. In summary, any claim that mornings are more productive is corporate bullshit, promulgated by idiots who wake up early because they have nothing better to do with their useless, empty lives.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
In summary, any claim that mornings are more productive is corporate bullsh*t, promulgated by idiots who wake up early because they have nothing better to do with their useless, empty lives.
Haha, nicely spoken Sir! I kinda agree :)
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my best work is done after 5PM...
Steve
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I get in to the office about half hour before I need to (8:30) and start reading through my emails, then read through the choice picks in the CP daily newsletter, and end up starting at about half 9. Somedays I don't start thinking about coding until 10. Once I've started I normally have to browse the net to look for help, where I generally get sidetracked for up to an hour. I start heavy coding from 4 til 5 then go home. I would much rather work in the evening, and definitely from home.
You don't have to be mad to live here [UK], but it helps.
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I work best in the morning, by which I mean between the 8:30 or so I get to work and about 11am-12pm. I tend to do my most creative work then, reserving the more 'handle turning' jobs for the late afternoon (4-5pm) when I start to fade. By handle turning I mean anything that can just be done without requiring too much deep thought, like fixing overnight builds and warnings. Writing reports definitely falls into the creative category - if I do write one late in the day then I will almost always review it first thing the following morning. Everyone is different though, I have worked with several 11am to 7pm coders and I think people should be fairly free to choose what hours they like. You do need a few hours of overlap for meetings though.
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Generally at the moment its get in to work about 9:00-9:30, and productivity doesn't start going up till mid morning when the cuppa kicks in. The early time is spent on boring tasks which do not require thought, and also spent on CP and any reading of online articles and the like. from mid morning the productivity goes up steadily, and by about 4:30 i'm usually running at peak with the development work, and have been known to stick at a task till after most people have gone just to finish up tidily. I guess I don't like loose ends! In a previous job when I was working from home my peak productivity would be mid evening till around 10, much to the annoyance of the wife! I Guess its down to individuals and the environment you're working in...not as simple as you think. Note these rules are thrown out of the window on a friday! :laugh:
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I couldn't disagree more. People's metabolisms vary widely, and it's not something you can change by corporate policy. I function at my peak between 2PM and 9PM, and I always have. My company starts work at 7AM and quits at 4PM. Over the past three years I've learned to wake up in time (5AM) to get to work, but I can't function until about 9 or so. Neither can anyone else. That means I take a lot of work home, because it just isn't physically or mentally possible to do it during working hours. And I'm not the only one. An electrical utility, our company has office staff (me, the accountant, the customer service lady, the meter guy, and the boss), and outside staff (linemen). The linemen start at 5AM in Summer to avoid the peak heat of the day, which can easily exceed 120°F, and quit by 1PM. They arrive on time, but get nothing done until 7AM, and usually want to quit by 11AM. In the office, we arrive at 7AM, but can get nothing done until 9AM because no other company we deal with opens until then. That's just as well, because none of us is in any mood to work until then, anyway. Most of our morning time is spent doing brainless administrative stuff that does little to accomplish our goals. We all tend to arrive with a plan in mind for the day, but until 9 or 10 we can't remember what the plan was. By then the boss shows up, and his priorities have changed overnight, so anything we'd planned on doing is out the window. In summary, any claim that mornings are more productive is corporate bullshit, promulgated by idiots who wake up early because they have nothing better to do with their useless, empty lives.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
I agree with Roger Wright. I've just got in to work and know I wont be at my peak until after 12pm (and after several coffees.) What should it matter. A company should only care that you are at you peak sometime while your working for them. Regards, Chris. PS. Sorry for any mistakes, it's 10:30am and I'm not at my peak yet. :)
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That definitely depends on the person. Everyone's wired differently. Besides that I find that my most efficient time period fluctuates. Some days I am all set at 4am (I was working 2am to 11am to accommodate an off shore out-sourcing company) to turn burn through several projects at once, other days I'm worthless until 8pm and then I'm good for several hours. I used to come in as early as 10pm (when I wasn't required to be in until 2am) just because I had the energy to dig in. If you want to know when a person is most productive, you'll have to ask them, and they may not even be able to give a straight answer.