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  • P Paul Conrad

    That's cool. A client of mine has been picking up, and the college starting up again right around the corner. My class is filling up quickly, too :)

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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    Christian Graus
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    Great - it seems to me like a bad time to be relying on contract work, although probably only in general.

    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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    • C Christian Graus

      So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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      macu
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      I work about 7-8 months from home and about 4-5 months from the office, this usually means I get shaken out of my loner routine before it sets in too deeply. I also get to talk to people in the day which I enjoy alot more than I did when I was in the office full time....

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      • C Christian Graus

        So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        BlaiseBraye
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        yeah, like this, it sounds great but what about social life? about contact? about making difference between real and virtual life? I don't think we are ready to miss it. For sure, I am not. I love to spend time on computer but I love people too.

        Let's make code sharing our goal... Blaise Braye

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        • C Christian Graus

          IT flat out rocks. I get more done, I enjoy it more, and I don't waste time and money on commuting and eating.

          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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          Lost User
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          But you still have to go out to buy food. :(

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          • B BlaiseBraye

            yeah, like this, it sounds great but what about social life? about contact? about making difference between real and virtual life? I don't think we are ready to miss it. For sure, I am not. I love to spend time on computer but I love people too.

            Let's make code sharing our goal... Blaise Braye

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            Lost User
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            That's a nice thing to say. :)

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            • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

              :laugh: You know you're in trouble when the soap has cracks in it.


              - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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              hairy_hats
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              Steve Echols wrote:

              You know you're in trouble when the soap has cracks in it.

              Errr......eh? :confused:

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              • H hairy_hats

                Steve Echols wrote:

                You know you're in trouble when the soap has cracks in it.

                Errr......eh? :confused:

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                Michael Schubert
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                You probably use shower gel. In this case - You know you're in trouble when your shower gel has turned into a ropy paste.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  The depth of my envy knows no bounds though my illustrious masters recently bought me a decent chair for my back. Nice one. :-)

                  me, me, me

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                    vurso786
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                    I now have the best of both worlds.. kind of. Now work for a small/medium sized company in the downstairs office however we have enough room between us to drive a car thorugh the gaps. Open windows, doors that lead out to a garden and hop over the fence and your in woodlands where you can go off for a stroll. Very relaxed atmosphere i.e. we will often put music on or stick on the iPod to hum away in our own heads. I miss working from home but equally I like the break away from all the chaos at home that inevitebly ensues when the kids run riot around the house.

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                    • L Lost User

                      But you still have to go out to buy food. :(

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                      WalshFX
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                      sk8er_boy287 wrote:

                      But you still have to go out to buy food. :(

                      Not necessarily! Just one solution.[^]

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                      • V vurso786

                        I now have the best of both worlds.. kind of. Now work for a small/medium sized company in the downstairs office however we have enough room between us to drive a car thorugh the gaps. Open windows, doors that lead out to a garden and hop over the fence and your in woodlands where you can go off for a stroll. Very relaxed atmosphere i.e. we will often put music on or stick on the iPod to hum away in our own heads. I miss working from home but equally I like the break away from all the chaos at home that inevitebly ensues when the kids run riot around the house.

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                        gscheek
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                        Sounds great, how can I make a good argument to my boss, that I should work at home. The few times I did work at home, it was awesome, got a whole lot more work done. None of those constant interruptions.

                        GSC

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                          Dan Neely
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                          You're at least half wrong. My employer will install hydraulic desks for people with back problems. However I'm not aware of anyone who fought the bean counters to a premium chair (instead of the $500 bogochair - comfort ~ $75ish models in a boxmart) instead of buying it themselves.

                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          • P Paul Conrad

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again

                            Been some time for me, and I do enjoy the home office :)

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                            Geoff Gariepy
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                            I've been doing it exclusively for HP since 2004. Wouldn't trade it for a desk anywhere! :)

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                              developedtester
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                              I've been on and off the bandwagon for years. I've read tons of articles and done a little work from home here and there. In summary.... it's great for some, terrible for others... it usually means you get more work done at home (when you really have all the network, office, and things set up effecient and effectively...and really work), but folks that depend on you for things at the office suffer at times... some folks communicate terribly over the phone.... some things really should be done "in person"... etc. etc. I could go on for hours. I think the best in most situations is to do both, but have the option to do neither.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                Lilith C
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                                I understand that soon we're going to be allowed to make the choice to work at home or not. I'd rather have the choice of coming to the office when I want but the plan is that if I work from home I'll have to give over the office to someone else. Then I won't have a machine to remote to. I think I'd prefer having an office physically near the servers.

                                Windows is a pane.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  There aren't large numbers of pretty girls in my home. Case closed.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                    werD
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                                    Ive been working from home for a large company for around 2 years. At times, I feel a bit reclusive, but i do get a ridiculous amount of work done(when I want to). The amount of time I save not dealing with questions unrelated to my job/role is immense. Of course, I'm not in the office to bitch about raises and such, but as long as you can show how your work has helped the business's bottom dollar come review time...

                                    DrewG, MCSD .Net

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                      SimonRigby
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                                      Here here. I could never work in an office again (or for that matter work for someone again). Working from home for myself is the best move I ever made. It's not for everyone, but it works for me. The best bit for me is being able to do the little things like reschedule my time so I can take my daughter to swimming lessons for example. Can't beat it in my book. (Note to self .. buy chickens) :)

                                      The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Great - it seems to me like a bad time to be relying on contract work, although probably only in general.

                                        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                        Paul Conrad
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                                        Yeah, seems a little tough around here right now.

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          So, I am at my desk. Standing, because I have a hydraulic desk that lifts, which helps with my back ( I also have a Bambach chair, together that's $2500 no employer would have spent on me ). I went to the kitchen to cook lunch, and while it cooked, I grabbed my guitar and played a couple of songs ( I learned Helloweens 'I want more' earlier in the week and am perfecting the solo to Skid Row's 'youth gone wild' ). When I take a few moments from the keyboard ( which I need to do at least once an hour, again for my back ), I will plant a few lettuce, or feed the chickens and collect the eggs. It just occured to me as I sang along to 'Blow my fuse' ( Kix ) while working on a sufficiently straightforward task to excuse the distraction, that I'd sure hate to have to work in an office again.

                                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                          I know exactly what you mean! Beth and I went for a long run along the seafront (the grockles are starting to land for the bank holiday, but they're not swarming yet) this afternoon while we were waiting for a build. Great fun - and having a complete change of pace for a couple of hours in the middle of the day does us a world of good. :-\ Compared to that I've never visited an office I'd care to spend any time in, really. Tolerate, yes...enjoy, No!

                                          Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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