Another Reason To Despise Vista
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Agreed. The file copy/move functions in Explorer are horrific. They are slow, and they almost always crash when dealing with more than a few files.
“Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Code, follow, or get out of the way.
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At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Steve Echols wrote:
Let me copy my own files damnit!
On a related note, I have an old, unused installation of Vista. But my current Vista won't allow me to delete the hibernation file or the page file from the old install because only the system is allowed to do that!
“Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support
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At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
To overcome that just execute
takeown /f <folder path>from cmd.exe :) Regards, --Perspx"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia Introduction to Object-Oriented JavaScript
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To overcome that just execute
takeown /f <folder path>from cmd.exe :) Regards, --Perspx"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia Introduction to Object-Oriented JavaScript
Well that's intuitive - bravo microsoft! :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
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Well that's intuitive - bravo microsoft! :)
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties. But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.
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You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties. But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.
xtravagan wrote:
You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties.
I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains.
xtravagan wrote:
But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.
I put the file there, so I am the owner. Not trying to delete, just copy, but I should be able to delete them too. It's not like I'm the pentagon or something. This shouldn't be that hard, i.e. I shouldn't have to google it. If I have google it, then their design=fail. At least the error message should tell me possible ways to fix the problem. End rant.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Steve Echols wrote:
At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
Steve, did you copy the files to the network from your current installation of Vista? Is it stored on a computer running XP, Vista, Server 2003 or Linux? I ran into the same problem while copying files to my new Linux server last night. I jumped through all types of SAMBA hoops before something dawned on me. I had recently reinstalled my machine from scrach with XP Pro (not Vista). I have a separate HDD (D: Data) that I store all my data on and another (C: System) for the OS. Now I had the userid and password on the last installation as to the new but obviously a different SID for the OS and (G)UID(?) for the userid. I had to use the Security tab and take ownrship and then give myself permissions before I could do anything with it. This was all without me having that option to make all my files private XP sometimes asks. I'm definitely going to take note of perspx's command line version of the command for future use.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
With SP1 installed?
Maybe not, my Toshiba Tecra A6 still doesn't have it since a driver (Touchpad I believe) is still not SP1 compatible. It's a 2007 model, so it's not like it's ancient or snythig like that.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I thought...
Yeah, I thought you would have created "Despise Vista" forum (preferable next to soapbox) here at CP to help those you love adventure. :~ Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Steve Echols wrote:
At least you can copy files from your network. I'm getting the dreaded "Destination Folder Access Denied". Some stupid security thing about taking ownership. It's my home network for F's sake! Let me copy my own files damnit!
Steve, did you copy the files to the network from your current installation of Vista? Is it stored on a computer running XP, Vista, Server 2003 or Linux? I ran into the same problem while copying files to my new Linux server last night. I jumped through all types of SAMBA hoops before something dawned on me. I had recently reinstalled my machine from scrach with XP Pro (not Vista). I have a separate HDD (D: Data) that I store all my data on and another (C: System) for the OS. Now I had the userid and password on the last installation as to the new but obviously a different SID for the OS and (G)UID(?) for the userid. I had to use the Security tab and take ownrship and then give myself permissions before I could do anything with it. This was all without me having that option to make all my files private XP sometimes asks. I'm definitely going to take note of perspx's command line version of the command for future use.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
The files I'm trying to copy are on an XP Pro box, and I'm copying them to Vista Home laptop, from Vista. So far, it seems to be only files that have potential to have viruses, like .exe, .zip, etc. Only been using Vista for a couple of days, well hours when it comes down to it, so I'm not super fluent with it yet. Guess it's just a learning curve, but it's fun to go off on a rant every once in awhile :-D
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer
That is the one thing that really pisses me of with Vista. I use robocopy and it just gets going and does what it is supposed to. You should look at it, if you haven't already.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
I've really liked Ubuntu from what I've seen of it. I'll probably by changing my daughter's computer to a dual-boot at some point in the near future.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
Definitely considering installing it, at this point. Most of my work is in the "Enterprise" right now, but time's they are a changin...
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
Ahh yes, I just typed in "apt-get update" and switched to Calc to do some work. Everything updated and no need to reboot. I started playing around with Linux ( Red Hat and Ubuntu ) this last December. I am now using Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server Exclusively. Earlier this year I bought a new Laptop with 4Gig System Ram, 512MB Video Ram 1680x1050 video resolution, dual core 2.8Ghz, and Vista Ultimate. I could not believe how much I simply could not do reasonably well even with the new system. That was the last straw, I got serious about Linux. I've been learning everything possible about Linux. It is absolutely unbelievable just how much I can do with Linux and just how much power I have over the system (as compared to Windows) I've got Compiz running and the desktop effects blow Vista right out of the water (same machine). With Vista my system barely ran. With my current setup, even with all desktop effects on full throttle and 12+ apps open, the system rarely uses 20% of the RAM and this thing freakin' smokes. Networking is beautiful. I am actually going to start in on learning what I can about programming for Linux, ( C/C++ and Assembler have always been my thing ). I'm planning on putting my skills to use for some good.
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system. They want to change their networking protocols so that in the future any non-Microsoft system will not be compatible with theirs. They want to disable non-Microsoft systems from sharing info with Micirsoft systems, on a network. They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock with this. Yeah, they think that SMB, TCP/IP, and the whole world sharing info in a standardized way is bad. These guys are not playing on a field to help mankind, they just want to milk whatever money they can from those unfortunate enough to not understand what they are doing. On a side note, If asked, I don't even mention any Microsoft Certifications anymore just CCNA and LPIC, et al. With the marketing techniques that they are trying to push I am actually ashamed that I once wrote code using VS. Hey, Did anyone know that Microsoft tried to get a patent for a new email protocol. They basically wanted IEEE to lock out anyone not using a future Microsoft product from being able to send emails. Seriously, If you are a programmer, you should learn what is going on and make a moral and ethical choice to move to FOSS software.
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I think the last time this was brought up here, some people recommended XXCopy: http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm[^]
Best wishes, Hans
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