Another Reason To Despise Vista
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer
That is the one thing that really pisses me of with Vista. I use robocopy and it just gets going and does what it is supposed to. You should look at it, if you haven't already.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
I've really liked Ubuntu from what I've seen of it. I'll probably by changing my daughter's computer to a dual-boot at some point in the near future.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
Definitely considering installing it, at this point. Most of my work is in the "Enterprise" right now, but time's they are a changin...
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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I know it's anecdotal so totally irrelevant but... oh well... I have XP Pro SP2 at work. The IT department finally pushes out SP3 on Monday and my computer hacks up a furr-ball. Installation fails and the ever-so lovely event log states "Cannot access specified file" but gives no indication of what file it can't access. The "click here for more help" produces the always helpful "Sorry, Nothing more here" BS. Hopefully our IT folks can sort it out or I get to reboot every morning and wait 7+ minutes while Outlook connects to Exchange. Grrrrrrrrr....... I get home and Ubuntu tells me it has a bunch of updates including a kernel update. I click once, type in a password once, wait approx 90 seconds and click once more to reboot (due to the kernel update). 60 seconds later I'm logged in and surfing the CP lounge. Life is good.
Ahh yes, I just typed in "apt-get update" and switched to Calc to do some work. Everything updated and no need to reboot. I started playing around with Linux ( Red Hat and Ubuntu ) this last December. I am now using Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server Exclusively. Earlier this year I bought a new Laptop with 4Gig System Ram, 512MB Video Ram 1680x1050 video resolution, dual core 2.8Ghz, and Vista Ultimate. I could not believe how much I simply could not do reasonably well even with the new system. That was the last straw, I got serious about Linux. I've been learning everything possible about Linux. It is absolutely unbelievable just how much I can do with Linux and just how much power I have over the system (as compared to Windows) I've got Compiz running and the desktop effects blow Vista right out of the water (same machine). With Vista my system barely ran. With my current setup, even with all desktop effects on full throttle and 12+ apps open, the system rarely uses 20% of the RAM and this thing freakin' smokes. Networking is beautiful. I am actually going to start in on learning what I can about programming for Linux, ( C/C++ and Assembler have always been my thing ). I'm planning on putting my skills to use for some good.
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system. They want to change their networking protocols so that in the future any non-Microsoft system will not be compatible with theirs. They want to disable non-Microsoft systems from sharing info with Micirsoft systems, on a network. They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock with this. Yeah, they think that SMB, TCP/IP, and the whole world sharing info in a standardized way is bad. These guys are not playing on a field to help mankind, they just want to milk whatever money they can from those unfortunate enough to not understand what they are doing. On a side note, If asked, I don't even mention any Microsoft Certifications anymore just CCNA and LPIC, et al. With the marketing techniques that they are trying to push I am actually ashamed that I once wrote code using VS. Hey, Did anyone know that Microsoft tried to get a patent for a new email protocol. They basically wanted IEEE to lock out anyone not using a future Microsoft product from being able to send emails. Seriously, If you are a programmer, you should learn what is going on and make a moral and ethical choice to move to FOSS software.
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So there I am, after the revirginification of my system wanting to transfer a crapload of files (over 30,000) from a (gigabit LAN) network share back to my box. I drag/drop the files and the go on about my business. This was at 3:30. I eventually notice that the file transfer is at a total standstill. Not wanting to cancel it, I click on the window, and the transfer starts back up again. Click away to another window, and it stops - completely. Now, instead of taking 30 minutes to calculate the time needed for the transfer, it starts the transfer immediately, but when you click away to another window, the transfer is evidently set to the lowest thread priority. WTF is MS thinking? THIS is one of the (new) reasons I hate the Explorer in Vista.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I think the last time this was brought up here, some people recommended XXCopy: http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm[^]
Best wishes, Hans
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Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system. They want to change their networking protocols so that in the future any non-Microsoft system will not be compatible with theirs. They want to disable non-Microsoft systems from sharing info with Micirsoft systems, on a network. They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock with this. Yeah, they think that SMB, TCP/IP, and the whole world sharing info in a standardized way is bad. These guys are not playing on a field to help mankind, they just want to milk whatever money they can from those unfortunate enough to not understand what they are doing. On a side note, If asked, I don't even mention any Microsoft Certifications anymore just CCNA and LPIC, et al. With the marketing techniques that they are trying to push I am actually ashamed that I once wrote code using VS. Hey, Did anyone know that Microsoft tried to get a patent for a new email protocol. They basically wanted IEEE to lock out anyone not using a future Microsoft product from being able to send emails. Seriously, If you are a programmer, you should learn what is going on and make a moral and ethical choice to move to FOSS software.
RandyBeck wrote:
Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system.
Do you have any links? I'd like to find out more about this.
RandyBeck wrote:
They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock
Yeah, that's an oldie from Microsoft's playbook. Too bad they don't put as much effort into their QA as they do in their scheming. I'm sure you realize that most of the people here have no choice about what OS to use - it's what their employers want, end of discussion. I personally view Microsoft as god's gift to contractors.
Best wishes, Hans
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Steve Echols wrote:
Let me copy my own files damnit!
On a related note, I have an old, unused installation of Vista. But my current Vista won't allow me to delete the hibernation file or the page file from the old install because only the system is allowed to do that!
“Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
the hibernation file ... from the old install
How can you have two hibernation files?
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xtravagan wrote:
You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties.
I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains.
xtravagan wrote:
But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.
I put the file there, so I am the owner. Not trying to delete, just copy, but I should be able to delete them too. It's not like I'm the pentagon or something. This shouldn't be that hard, i.e. I shouldn't have to google it. If I have google it, then their design=fail. At least the error message should tell me possible ways to fix the problem. End rant.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
"I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains." It won't give you access until you grant permissions for Microsoft or the NSA...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Chineese Proverb] Jonathan C Dickinson (C# Software Engineer)
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xtravagan wrote:
You can easily accomplish the same thing in the security tab, found in the file properties.
I can't. I've granted full control to everyone and their dogs, and it still complains.
xtravagan wrote:
But if it wasn't intuitive that you weren't the owner and that was the problem, then well it wasn't really unless you know a few good reasons as to why you cannot delete files in NFTS/Windows.
I put the file there, so I am the owner. Not trying to delete, just copy, but I should be able to delete them too. It's not like I'm the pentagon or something. This shouldn't be that hard, i.e. I shouldn't have to google it. If I have google it, then their design=fail. At least the error message should tell me possible ways to fix the problem. End rant.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
You didn't really put it there, the system did, it is just trying to protect itself from people yanking the file out when they shouldn't. Normally you delete these files by disabling paging and disabling hibernate. Deleting the hibernate file can be extremely hazardous as it might contain data you actually want. Not sure how the security tab looks like in all versions of Vista, but in Ultimate you have an advanced button, when you open that you will have an "Owner" tab, where you can take ownership.
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With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
With SP1 installed? I thought they had fixed a bunch of file copy stupidities...
they did, however there are a lot of misconceptions about where the problems are. Sometimes the problem requires some software dropped on your non-Vista box to make it work right with Vista. Most people just see the copy problem, assume it was the one advertised well, and hate vista without ever checking how to fix it.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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RandyBeck wrote:
Because Microsoft added some "new" technology to their networking sub-system.
Do you have any links? I'd like to find out more about this.
RandyBeck wrote:
They are hoping to somehow solidify a future Vendor lock
Yeah, that's an oldie from Microsoft's playbook. Too bad they don't put as much effort into their QA as they do in their scheming. I'm sure you realize that most of the people here have no choice about what OS to use - it's what their employers want, end of discussion. I personally view Microsoft as god's gift to contractors.
Best wishes, Hans
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OMG, Links... I read this is Linux Journal or an online article associated with the Free Software Foundation. Great... the squirrels have been scurrying over my stack of magazines. I am now on a mission to find this and will post. I will be able to use this sucker as ammo later on. Though first, I've got to fly out for my sister-in-laws wedding I use a Win XP 64-bit workstation at work, for the sole purpose of running Pro/E Wildfire 4.0 w/Structural and Thermal Simulation and FEA. However, I am talking to the Pro/E Vendors and gathering information, for I will be wiping it out and installing the software on Linux. And yes, for some reason (many little ones), I do miss Visual Studio. However, morally and ethically I am able to sleep quite well for I will not be seeking absolution for any future computing deeds. ... well, I'm off to take part in a wedding and hopefully survive the onslaught of the females and their emotional roller coasters.
