It's Vista. stupid.
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
digital man wrote:
Vista ain't so bad.
nope, its worse!
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
beyond driver (un)availability I haven's seen stability issues in Vista yet, also performance on a machine with decent vr000m isn't bad. The worst that can be said abotu Vista is that it opened another round in the "Who owns what" on your computer, and the OS tries to take control of things that were mine.
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blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistmodified on Monday, September 1, 2008 5:52 AM
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beyond driver (un)availability I haven's seen stability issues in Vista yet, also performance on a machine with decent vr000m isn't bad. The worst that can be said abotu Vista is that it opened another round in the "Who owns what" on your computer, and the OS tries to take control of things that were mine.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistmodified on Monday, September 1, 2008 5:52 AM
haven't been using vista much (just for testing purposes) but I find that it eat's resources (ofcourse if you have a machine with decent vr000m (as you say ;P ) that's not a big issue), according to what I'v seen twice as much as xp. Also the whole virtualizing that takes place when a user (or programme) does something wich it doesn't have the rights to is not my favorite (the programme isn't even aware of it), and I can see cenarios where people will lose data because of it. But I can understand the reasoning behind the security model of vista and on some parts even agree with it. Beyond that I guess the biggest problem is the drivers (like you said), and the little things (like name of 'Software' that changed (never can find it anymore)) O and one thing I also noticed is that installs take alot longer (and with alot I mean alot, takes about 5 times as long on the vista machine as on the xp machine (both same specs))
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
Microsoft have had a good shot at it, but to be honest I can't see it being any better than XP. Sure it's got fancy effects and the UI generally looks better, but there are still lots of annoyances and bugs; the Vista explorer is still a pain to use, and the file permissions and security seems to me just ridiculous, such as ownership and other permissions - there's an easy solution: get a firewall. Regards, --Perspx
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
The major problem with most computers running Windows Vista (or any other version of Windows) is the OEM - they install all sorts of crap on there by default, most of which is unnecessary and some is harmful. Repave by default - demand real installation discs (not recovery discs) and reinstall the OS as soon as you receive the machine, then carefully select drivers. Some OEMs install drivers for all devices that could possibly be on any of their machines, and some of the ancillary components load even if the device isn't present; they then proceed to continually poll for the hardware that isn't in fact there, and waste CPU time and memory to do so. I run Windows Vista x64 Business on my home laptop, a 2.5 year old Dell Latitude D820 with 2GHz Core 2 Duo processor (T7200), 2GB RAM and a 7200rpm 100GB SATA hard disk. It's fine and has been fine ever since I installed it. The product as Microsoft delivers it is pretty good; it is ruined by poor third-party code. You should ensure that your BIOS is up-to-date if installing on an old computer - some implementations have had problems with Vista. Early video drivers were poor, as were sound drivers (I checked for an update recently which completely fixed the problem with seamless play in Windows Media Player) and there were bugs fixed by many online updates before SP1 (which rolled them all up).
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.
digital man wrote:
after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine
I am oft reminded of one of our programmers at work who blames hardware every time there is a problem. Null pointer error, hardware.... first determine the problem, don't just affix blame. getting Vista working is A) Vista B) 3rd party drivers C) hardware D) settings designed for your hardware. If you connect to another machine: E) software for that machine.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I must be even more stupid that everyone already thinks because, after having moaned at how poor Vista appeared to be on my machine, (it was the machine, not Vista, btw) I reinstalled XP and all was well in my little world until last week when I was tempted to install Vista Ultimate. So, taking my machine's life in my hands, I inserted the disc and got to work and, after a few evenings of reinstalling all my favourite bits and bobs, all is well. In fact, it is wonderful. Vista is fair zipping along and I love it. Okay, I did have the mysterious and random shutdowns but that was cured when I switched back to balanced power (it's a laptop) and took some time to weed out and stop many services that were surplus to a human beings requirements. I can't say which bit of all of the tips and tricks I applied did the most good but the combination worked and I'm happy with it. (Trawled Google and applied whatever seemed sensible) This is on a 3.5 year old Dell D810 with 2gig ram, 80 gig hard disk and 2.3 pentium doo-dad. I have Aero on but no sidebar: other than that it seems fine: even Outlook 2007 starts quickly. Moral of this tale: Vista ain't so bad.