Democrats Release Sarah Palin's Social Security Number
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John Carson wrote:
Obama reaches 50% support for the first time in Tuesday's national opinion polls.
I hate to burst your bubble but you're looking at the predictible convention bump for Barry.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
I hate to burst your bubble but you're looking at the predictible convention bump for Barry.
We'll know in a week. Let's see what bump McCain can get. Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one. I think McCain will do well if he can have as good a convention as Obama did.
John Carson
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Do you think she filled in the ASAP Applicant Online Application that you were talking about yesterday? ;P Regards, --Perspx
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In a ss# funk. You see FAA, how can they get away with that... read the gov appoligists responces in the lounge, then every other google search I make has some search term with ss# term in it. Then news breaks at about 1900 EST about government abusing it's information acccess obligations on very similiar subject. It's an outrage.
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modified on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 8:55 AM
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I hate to burst your bubble but you're looking at the predictible convention bump for Barry.
We'll know in a week. Let's see what bump McCain can get. Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one. I think McCain will do well if he can have as good a convention as Obama did.
John Carson
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I hate to burst your bubble but you're looking at the predictible convention bump for Barry.
We'll know in a week. Let's see what bump McCain can get. Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one. I think McCain will do well if he can have as good a convention as Obama did.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one
She (my opinion) is crucial, her nomination has pulled conservatives back into the fold. My sense up to the point of her selection is that hard core conservatives were going to sit this one out. While it doesn't show in polling numbers it is very evident in the level of donations. McCain had a one, maybe two day total of $4M - a record for McCain. Her speech tonight is as important to McCain as was the entire Democratic convention for Barack. She doesn't have to soar, just not crash. As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack. It'll be an interesting evening.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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John Carson wrote:
Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one
She (my opinion) is crucial, her nomination has pulled conservatives back into the fold. My sense up to the point of her selection is that hard core conservatives were going to sit this one out. While it doesn't show in polling numbers it is very evident in the level of donations. McCain had a one, maybe two day total of $4M - a record for McCain. Her speech tonight is as important to McCain as was the entire Democratic convention for Barack. She doesn't have to soar, just not crash. As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack. It'll be an interesting evening.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
While it doesn't show in polling numbers
I think we all forget that the tracking polls are pretty much meaningless - they count in the votes of Massachusetts, South Carolina, etc. as if they had equal weight with the votes of swing states. Whatever else Palin has done, she has pretty much nailed down not only the Republican states but the Republican-leaning states - where Obama thought he might make inroads or at least force McCain to spend money -- and narrow the election to the 14 states that are considered up for grabs.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack
You have to wonder about the IQ of the reporters, editors and columnists who have taken off after her like a pack of rabid chihuahuas. They are so totally obsfucating any of the real questions about Palin's qualifications with their muckracking that, among much of the electorate -- not only convinced conservatives, the focus becomes the media and not the nominee.
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John Carson wrote:
Sarah Palin seems not to have given him one
She (my opinion) is crucial, her nomination has pulled conservatives back into the fold. My sense up to the point of her selection is that hard core conservatives were going to sit this one out. While it doesn't show in polling numbers it is very evident in the level of donations. McCain had a one, maybe two day total of $4M - a record for McCain. Her speech tonight is as important to McCain as was the entire Democratic convention for Barack. She doesn't have to soar, just not crash. As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack. It'll be an interesting evening.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
She (my opinion) is crucial, her nomination has pulled conservatives back into the fold. My sense up to the point of her selection is that hard core conservatives were going to sit this one out. While it doesn't show in polling numbers it is very evident in the level of donations. McCain had a one, maybe two day total of $4M - a record for McCain. Her speech tonight is as important to McCain as was the entire Democratic convention for Barack. She doesn't have to soar, just not crash. As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack. It'll be an interesting evening.
I very much doubt that she'll crash in her speech. I read somewhere that one of McCain's staffers is writing it. I think what will matter is how she copes when she has to face media interviews --- plus whether the media can dig up anything else on her. My opinion is that McCain can't win without successfully re-igniting concerns about Obama's background as a dominant campaign issue. If the election is decided on the issues (health care, Iraq, the economy, abortion...) and not decided by fear of Obama's ideology/associations, then Obama wins --- even with a motivated conservative base. The African American turnout is going to smash all previous records.
John Carson
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
She (my opinion) is crucial, her nomination has pulled conservatives back into the fold. My sense up to the point of her selection is that hard core conservatives were going to sit this one out. While it doesn't show in polling numbers it is very evident in the level of donations. McCain had a one, maybe two day total of $4M - a record for McCain. Her speech tonight is as important to McCain as was the entire Democratic convention for Barack. She doesn't have to soar, just not crash. As an aside, my opinion again, is that the media hammering of Palin and family is going to hurt and not help Barack. It'll be an interesting evening.
I very much doubt that she'll crash in her speech. I read somewhere that one of McCain's staffers is writing it. I think what will matter is how she copes when she has to face media interviews --- plus whether the media can dig up anything else on her. My opinion is that McCain can't win without successfully re-igniting concerns about Obama's background as a dominant campaign issue. If the election is decided on the issues (health care, Iraq, the economy, abortion...) and not decided by fear of Obama's ideology/associations, then Obama wins --- even with a motivated conservative base. The African American turnout is going to smash all previous records.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
not decided by fear of Obama's ideology/associations
How else do we judge him? He has no record of accomplishments; his speeches are full of beautifully phrased, meaningless, noises. His position papers are, like McCain's, meaningless since they can and will be forgotten the day after the election. What he apparently believes in, and who he is comfortable being around. are all that's left. I am comfortable judging both inexperienced candidates in this way and both experienced candidates on their record.
John Carson wrote:
The African American turnout is going to smash all previous records.
Doesn't matter. Only a couple of states with large black populations are in play. All the blacks in New York and California may add to the raw vote totals for Obama, but will not provide him with one more electoral vote.
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Oakman wrote:
I can't decide if they are terrified of her or just trying to upstage the Republican Convention
All of the above. I can't imagine ayone familiar with Chicago Machine politics believing that Obama is anything other than another slick politician. With the Internet, its too easy to put out information via some "anonymous source" and then later disavow it. What amazes me is that people aren't apalled at the fact that the Libs support a womans right to choose as long as its an abortion, and they are equal as long as they are liberal feminists. The media and Obama's campaign are just showing their true colors.
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote:
Oakman wrote: I can't decide if they are terrified of her or just trying to upstage the Republican Convention All of the above.
Neither of the above. The Dem's aren't terrified of Palin. She's a cypher. Selected because of her gender and her family values ideology. And while it's perfectly reasonable for the Dem's to generate news that will distract from the R's convention(just as McCain timed his vp choice announcement to distract from the Democratic convention), the news stories about Palin are standard fare. The press did with Palin exactly what it always does with public figures.
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John Carson wrote:
not decided by fear of Obama's ideology/associations
How else do we judge him? He has no record of accomplishments; his speeches are full of beautifully phrased, meaningless, noises. His position papers are, like McCain's, meaningless since they can and will be forgotten the day after the election. What he apparently believes in, and who he is comfortable being around. are all that's left. I am comfortable judging both inexperienced candidates in this way and both experienced candidates on their record.
John Carson wrote:
The African American turnout is going to smash all previous records.
Doesn't matter. Only a couple of states with large black populations are in play. All the blacks in New York and California may add to the raw vote totals for Obama, but will not provide him with one more electoral vote.
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bulg wrote:
It DOES matter. Everyone should vote.
Take it up with the Electoral college. Each state is winner-take-all. So states that have far more memebers of one party than the other are signed, sealed, and delivered. Whether I vote for the president or not will make no difference because I live in one of the reddest of the red states. I moved here, ironically enough, from one of the bluest of the blue states, where my presidential vote didn't count either. Over time, of course, a state can be put back into play. Virginia is now considered a swing state instead of a guaranteed Republican fiefdom.
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Oakman wrote:
I can't decide if they are terrified
I can. It is pretty easy to gauge the fear based on the level of noise coming out of the media. I just finished donating another $100 to McCain / Palin. Well, $98, I spent the other $2 on more bumper stickers.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
I just finished donating another $100 to McCain / Palin. Well, $98, I spent the other $2 on more bumper stickers.
I have a feeling you would have done the same had McCain picked a monkey out of his running-mate hat. "Monkies have more experience in space travel than Obama!" :rolleyes:
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I just finished donating another $100 to McCain / Palin. Well, $98, I spent the other $2 on more bumper stickers.
I have a feeling you would have done the same had McCain picked a monkey out of his running-mate hat. "Monkies have more experience in space travel than Obama!" :rolleyes:
My latest C# extension method: public static bool In<T>(this T value, params T[] values) { return values.Any(v => v.Equals(value)); } Example: bool valid = answer.In("Yes", "No", "Dunno");
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Oakman wrote:
can't decide if they are terrified of her or just trying to upstage the Republican Convention.
I don't think it is a matter of being fearful of her, but they are just trying to dig up every little thing to sling mud to make themselves look better, when they really aren't.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
they are just trying to dig up every little thing to sling mud to make themselves look better, when they really aren't.
Absolutely. In fact, here are 8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama[^].
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I just finished donating another $100 to McCain / Palin. Well, $98, I spent the other $2 on more bumper stickers.
I have a feeling you would have done the same had McCain picked a monkey out of his running-mate hat. "Monkies have more experience in space travel than Obama!" :rolleyes:
My latest C# extension method: public static bool In<T>(this T value, params T[] values) { return values.Any(v => v.Equals(value)); } Example: bool valid = answer.In("Yes", "No", "Dunno");
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Paul Conrad wrote:
they are just trying to dig up every little thing to sling mud to make themselves look better, when they really aren't.
Absolutely. In fact, here are 8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama[^].
My latest C# extension method: public static bool In<T>(this T value, params T[] values) { return values.Any(v => v.Equals(value)); } Example: bool valid = answer.In("Yes", "No", "Dunno");
It's sadly becoming clear to me that no-one hates the idea of women running for high office more than white liberals, except black liberals. I only read your first three points. The first is a lie, as proved by the Alaska voting records; the second is indeed a flip-flop, but anyone who supports Obama - who imitates a slinky going down stairs in the way his positions change - really can't speak very loudly to this point without being hoist by his own petard, and the third capitalizes on a personal matter in exactly the way I have come to expect from the woman-hating left.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
Oakman wrote: I can't decide if they are terrified of her or just trying to upstage the Republican Convention All of the above.
Neither of the above. The Dem's aren't terrified of Palin. She's a cypher. Selected because of her gender and her family values ideology. And while it's perfectly reasonable for the Dem's to generate news that will distract from the R's convention(just as McCain timed his vp choice announcement to distract from the Democratic convention), the news stories about Palin are standard fare. The press did with Palin exactly what it always does with public figures.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
Oakman wrote: I can't decide if they are terrified of her or just trying to upstage the Republican Convention All of the above.
Neither of the above. The Dem's aren't terrified of Palin. She's a cypher. Selected because of her gender and her family values ideology. And while it's perfectly reasonable for the Dem's to generate news that will distract from the R's convention(just as McCain timed his vp choice announcement to distract from the Democratic convention), the news stories about Palin are standard fare. The press did with Palin exactly what it always does with public figures.
oilFactotum wrote:
the news stories about Palin are standard fare.
Suuure they are. When was the last time Obama was taken to task for being a bad father because he's putting the kids in the limelight? Where's the breathless report on Michele's failure to obtain a fishing license when she was a teenager?
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It's sadly becoming clear to me that no-one hates the idea of women running for high office more than white liberals, except black liberals. I only read your first three points. The first is a lie, as proved by the Alaska voting records; the second is indeed a flip-flop, but anyone who supports Obama - who imitates a slinky going down stairs in the way his positions change - really can't speak very loudly to this point without being hoist by his own petard, and the third capitalizes on a personal matter in exactly the way I have come to expect from the woman-hating left.
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Oakman wrote:
It's sadly becoming clear to me that no-one hates the idea of women running for high office more than white liberals, except black liberals.
Yeah, those damn satirical pieces have that effect on some people. Lighten up Francis.
Oakman wrote:
The first is a lie, as proved by the Alaska voting records
OK, but the "lie" was perpetrated by officials of the AIP.
Oakman wrote:
the third capitalizes on a personal matter in exactly the way I have come to expect from the woman-hating left.
It's a personal matter made public by Palin herself. Did you notice how they're capitalizing on it to push their pro-life agenda? Did you hear Obama's response?
Oakman wrote:
I only read your first three points.
Well, they're not really my points, but I do encourage you to read the rest of them, if you can first locate your sense of humor.
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oilFactotum wrote:
the news stories about Palin are standard fare.
Suuure they are. When was the last time Obama was taken to task for being a bad father because he's putting the kids in the limelight? Where's the breathless report on Michele's failure to obtain a fishing license when she was a teenager?
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Oakman wrote:
Where's the breathless report on Michele's failure to obtain a fishing license
I haven't seen any breathless reports on Palin's failure to obtain a fishing license. What I did see was that McCain's own research team revealed that little detail.
Oakman wrote:
Obama was taken to task for being a bad father because he's putting the kids in the limelight?
So? The press is reflecting a double standard widely held in this country. And in a very extreme form by the 'family values' crowd that her selection was meant to pander to.
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Oakman wrote:
It's sadly becoming clear to me that no-one hates the idea of women running for high office more than white liberals, except black liberals.
Yeah, those damn satirical pieces have that effect on some people. Lighten up Francis.
Oakman wrote:
The first is a lie, as proved by the Alaska voting records
OK, but the "lie" was perpetrated by officials of the AIP.
Oakman wrote:
the third capitalizes on a personal matter in exactly the way I have come to expect from the woman-hating left.
It's a personal matter made public by Palin herself. Did you notice how they're capitalizing on it to push their pro-life agenda? Did you hear Obama's response?
Oakman wrote:
I only read your first three points.
Well, they're not really my points, but I do encourage you to read the rest of them, if you can first locate your sense of humor.
My latest C# extension method: public static bool In<T>(this T value, params T[] values) { return values.Any(v => v.Equals(value)); } Example: bool valid = answer.In("Yes", "No", "Dunno");
Al Beback wrote:
Yeah, those damn satirical pieces have that effect on some people. Lighten up Francis
Yeah, I've seen the "I was just joking!" cover-up before. Why don't you try dressing up in bedsheets and burning a cross on some black's lawn for your next "satire."
Al Beback wrote:
OK, but the "lie" was perpetrated by officials of the AIP.
And perpetrated by the likes of Olbermann and Blitzer without any fact-checking at all, until it's finally quoted by the bottom of the regurgitation chain here in SB.
Al Beback wrote:
Did you notice how they're capitalizing on it to push their pro-life agenda
I noticed that they were forced to bring it up to defend themselves against accusation starting in the Daily Kos and ending up on the liberal news channels that her youngest child was actually her daughters.
Al Beback wrote:
Did you hear Obama's response?
No, but I've heard Mika Brzezinski's disgust with the liberal's savaging of Palin and she is an unabashed liberal.
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