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It's just a big stone, really

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    Simon Walton
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    clickety Up until now, I always thought Bruce "Do I get to wear a vest?!" Willis would save the world, not a bunch of beardy scientists. But there you go. Simon Hey! It looks like you're writing a letter! Find out what this is and win a prize! Sonork ID 100.10024

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      clickety Up until now, I always thought Bruce "Do I get to wear a vest?!" Willis would save the world, not a bunch of beardy scientists. But there you go. Simon Hey! It looks like you're writing a letter! Find out what this is and win a prize! Sonork ID 100.10024

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      David Stone
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      Just proving that we geeks really do rule the world. Or at least save it every once in a while...:-D David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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        clickety Up until now, I always thought Bruce "Do I get to wear a vest?!" Willis would save the world, not a bunch of beardy scientists. But there you go. Simon Hey! It looks like you're writing a letter! Find out what this is and win a prize! Sonork ID 100.10024

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        David Wulff
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        Am I the only one who feels uneasy at the idea of messing with things like this when we don't understand the full consequences? We've made a big enough mess of our our little spot in Space - let's not fuck with the rest of it. :eek:


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          Am I the only one who feels uneasy at the idea of messing with things like this when we don't understand the full consequences? We've made a big enough mess of our our little spot in Space - let's not fuck with the rest of it. :eek:


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          David Stone
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          But what about the huge asteroid that is supposed to collide with Earth in 2019? What are we going to do about that? If we figure out how to divert them now, then we won't have to be nuking them. :~ David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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            Alright. Throw a stone against earth and measure how much it moves out of it's original orbit.... Scientists! X|

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            David Stone
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            Um. I think they're trying to throw a satellite at an asteroid aren't they? And that should work...at least if I know my basic physics, it should. :) David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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              clickety Up until now, I always thought Bruce "Do I get to wear a vest?!" Willis would save the world, not a bunch of beardy scientists. But there you go. Simon Hey! It looks like you're writing a letter! Find out what this is and win a prize! Sonork ID 100.10024

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              Colin Leitner
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              Alright. Throw a stone against earth and measure how much it moves out of it's original orbit.... Scientists! X|

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                A satellite may weight 1-5 tons I guess. A asteriod can be as big as our moon or bigger (Pluto is seen as a kind of asteriod by many scientists). So the mass of most asteroids that could be dangerous for us is so high that it's like throwing stones against mountains.

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                David Stone
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                But if a penny dropped from the Empire State Building can imbed itself in the cement on the sidewalk, then this small object should be able to move an asteroid...right? David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                  Um. I think they're trying to throw a satellite at an asteroid aren't they? And that should work...at least if I know my basic physics, it should. :) David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                  A satellite may weight 1-5 tons I guess. A asteriod can be as big as our moon or bigger (Pluto is seen as a kind of asteriod by many scientists). So the mass of most asteroids that could be dangerous for us is so high that it's like throwing stones against mountains.

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                    But what about the huge asteroid that is supposed to collide with Earth in 2019? What are we going to do about that? If we figure out how to divert them now, then we won't have to be nuking them. :~ David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                    We must always remember that we are an infitismal part of an infinite picture - making the slightest changes could damage the larger system irepairibly. I don't think we should go jumping into everything feet first. Think Godzilla - same thing, just not sci fi. If (and maybe when) something becomes a threat to use then we will be forced to take action to try to prevent it - we are required to through our instinct to survive - but until then is is nothing more than vandalism, which could have a huge unforseen effect.


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                      But if a penny dropped from the Empire State Building can imbed itself in the cement on the sidewalk, then this small object should be able to move an asteroid...right? David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                      David Wulff
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                      Surely that prooves nothing more than the structure of cement is flawed.


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                        Surely that prooves nothing more than the structure of cement is flawed.


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                        Right.... David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                          Right.... David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                          Well doesn't it? Would the same results happen with a different material? Not necessarily.


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                            We must always remember that we are an infitismal part of an infinite picture - making the slightest changes could damage the larger system irepairibly. I don't think we should go jumping into everything feet first. Think Godzilla - same thing, just not sci fi. If (and maybe when) something becomes a threat to use then we will be forced to take action to try to prevent it - we are required to through our instinct to survive - but until then is is nothing more than vandalism, which could have a huge unforseen effect.


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                            David Wulff wrote: If (and maybe when) something becomes a threat to use then we will be forced to take action to try to prevent it - we are required to through our instinct to survive - but until then is is nothing more than vandalism... Not vandalism, target practice. :suss:

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                              But if a penny dropped from the Empire State Building can imbed itself in the cement on the sidewalk, then this small object should be able to move an asteroid...right? David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                              Colin Leitner
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                              ESB height: 381 m Penny weight: 1g (?) Energy in penny on top of the ESB: m*g*h = 0,001 kg * 9,81 m / s^2 * 381 m = 3,73761 J Now this is the energy inside the penny to engrave the street. hmmm 4 joule? I think your breakfeast has more power in it :-D. Just kiding!

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                                David Wulff wrote: If (and maybe when) something becomes a threat to use then we will be forced to take action to try to prevent it - we are required to through our instinct to survive - but until then is is nothing more than vandalism... Not vandalism, target practice. :suss:

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                                David Wulff
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                                "Hey let me shoot your son incase someone tries to shoot me in the future and I need to protect myself".


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                                  A satellite may weight 1-5 tons I guess. A asteriod can be as big as our moon or bigger (Pluto is seen as a kind of asteriod by many scientists). So the mass of most asteroids that could be dangerous for us is so high that it's like throwing stones against mountains.

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                                  Right, but it is a mountain that is moving through space along a certain path. If you hit it just right, you can slightly (very very very slightly) change its path. Over the course of time, that small change becomes continuously more significant. Ryan Johnston

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                                    Well doesn't it? Would the same results happen with a different material? Not necessarily.


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                                    But it proves that small objects can impact bigger objects. Besides...millions of people walk that street every day. Thus it would stand to reason that the concrete is strong and well made. David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                                      ESB height: 381 m Penny weight: 1g (?) Energy in penny on top of the ESB: m*g*h = 0,001 kg * 9,81 m / s^2 * 381 m = 3,73761 J Now this is the energy inside the penny to engrave the street. hmmm 4 joule? I think your breakfeast has more power in it :-D. Just kiding!

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                                      But I don't think energy has anything to do with how a penny imbeds itself in cement. I believe that is an issue of velocity. Which would lead to the penny being imbedded in the cement. David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                                        "Hey let me shoot your son incase someone tries to shoot me in the future and I need to protect myself".


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                                        But that's an issue of killing a sentient being versus shooting a metal object at a big rock. :) David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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                                          Right, but it is a mountain that is moving through space along a certain path. If you hit it just right, you can slightly (very very very slightly) change its path. Over the course of time, that small change becomes continuously more significant. Ryan Johnston

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                                          Exactly my point. If NASA is off by 2 degrees, the astronauts overshoot the moon by hundreds of kilometers. (Yes. An American using metric...shocking isn't it? :-D) David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig

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