Only allowed to buy open-source?
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
I am going to be laughing my ass off in 5 years when all these "initiatives" come back to bite them. When they find out that even though it might be open sourced, they are still locked into IBM/Redhat/etc because switching would cost too much money. Fools. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
Frank Liao wrote: state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. Hmm - well that rules out every piece of GPL'd code then. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Frank Liao wrote: state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. Hmm - well that rules out every piece of GPL'd code then. cheers, Chris Maunder
That just leaves public domain. Even BSD (my fav) places some restrictions. I hope the law passes if that is the way the law reads. BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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I am going to be laughing my ass off in 5 years when all these "initiatives" come back to bite them. When they find out that even though it might be open sourced, they are still locked into IBM/Redhat/etc because switching would cost too much money. Fools. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Tim Smith wrote: When they find out that even though it might be open sourced, they are still locked into IBM/Redhat/etc because switching would cost too much money. Don't they think about the cost of simply retraining all *end users*, that I feel would take a lot of money and time that is not worth it. I am just thinking about end users that are say familiar with office product such as Excel, they just know how to use that and now they are going to have to learn how to use something that is probably not going to do anything different for them. Nick Parker
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
Don't you have laws against suicide, and death-pacts. Because this is what it could well effectivly be. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
I say open the source. When it comes to source code, it's like taking a jet liner and putting on the highway, and saying anyone can have a ride. By the time you screen out the non pilots, and non-commercial airline pilots and the non-jetliner pilots, you're going to be left with very few people qualified to pilot the plane. Then amongs those, you have get the ones that are actually interested. By the time u're finish, there is going to be only a hand full who would do anything valuable with the plane. The same goes for code. By the time you screen out all the technical people with the ability to understand the code, and then those who find it interesting, you are going to be left with only a few people or companies doing anything substantial with it. Left california have all the code they want.:)
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I say open the source. When it comes to source code, it's like taking a jet liner and putting on the highway, and saying anyone can have a ride. By the time you screen out the non pilots, and non-commercial airline pilots and the non-jetliner pilots, you're going to be left with very few people qualified to pilot the plane. Then amongs those, you have get the ones that are actually interested. By the time u're finish, there is going to be only a hand full who would do anything valuable with the plane. The same goes for code. By the time you screen out all the technical people with the ability to understand the code, and then those who find it interesting, you are going to be left with only a few people or companies doing anything substantial with it. Left california have all the code they want.:)
Good analogy !! Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
If any idea is self-destructive, or just plain stupid, the PRC will enact a law to require it. They've done so for twenty or more years, and there's no reason to expect them to get smarter anytime soon. "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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Open source's new weapon: The law?[^] Open-source software advocates will unfurl a legislative proposal next week to prohibit the state of California from buying software from Microsoft or any other company that doesn't open its source code and licensing policies. Named the "Digital Software Security Act," the proposal essentially would make California the "Live Free or Die" state when it comes to software. If enacted as written, state agencies would be able to buy software only from companies that do not place restrictions on use or access to source code. The agencies would also be given the freedom to "make and distribute copies of the software." :wtf: Fine, if isn't bad enough that tech jobs are hard to find, but why start killing software companies too? Isn't one of government's tool for improving an economy is to spend on it?:confused: These legislatures will probably have to answer to the employees of Symantec, Oracle, Siebel, etc. soon. Frank Bason Computer, Inc.
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I am going to be laughing my ass off in 5 years when all these "initiatives" come back to bite them. When they find out that even though it might be open sourced, they are still locked into IBM/Redhat/etc because switching would cost too much money. Fools. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Tim Smith wrote: Fools. HAAAHAHAAHAHA
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Why do you have to buy Open-Source Software? :cool: Oh, but it has "digital security" in it's name, so it can't be all bad.
You don't need to sleep to see a nightmare Anne Clark [sighist]
peterchen wrote: Why do you have to buy Open-Source Software? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: