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  • D DaTxomin

    A friend has been contacted by a recruiter for an engineering position. Nice enough salary and an interesting job, he teels me. The problem is that he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck. He asked me if this is normal or too much or what. My first thought was... 10% of the first paycheck? of every paycheck? He said he didn't know but would ask. Indeed, it would make a huge, huge difference. But the truth is that I don't have experience on this so I'm putting the question to you gys. Anyone can give me any information to pass along? He is in Japan and the recruiters are a Japanese company and the job is at a Japanese company (he isn't Japanese), in case it matters.

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    Lost User
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    First do Recruiters take money :omg: I thought they do it for free to help people find jobs

    The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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      Ive never heard of the employee paying recruiter fees, its always the employer. However ive never even visited japan let alone worked there...things could well work very differently (eg, used knickers from vending machines. i sh1t you not! :omg: ) Fixed typo, well done MM.

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      Kickers? As in the shoe brand?:~ (only "kickers" I can think of atm)

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        First do Recruiters take money :omg: I thought they do it for free to help people find jobs

        The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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        Dalek Dave
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        They do help people find jobs, but they have the "Introduction Fee". It is a standard business practise. A Few years ago I had a bankmanager friend of mine indicate that he had a client who wanted to sell some land. My company is a land developer, so I did the "Introductions", we shared the 1% fee. Not bad, I got £11,000 out of that! (Had to pay £4000 in tax :mad:). But still had a good whack of cash to spend wrecklessly!

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          They do help people find jobs, but they have the "Introduction Fee". It is a standard business practise. A Few years ago I had a bankmanager friend of mine indicate that he had a client who wanted to sell some land. My company is a land developer, so I did the "Introductions", we shared the 1% fee. Not bad, I got £11,000 out of that! (Had to pay £4000 in tax :mad:). But still had a good whack of cash to spend wrecklessly!

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          I got £11,000 out of that!

          I started liking this "Introductions" stuff :-D

          The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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          • D DaTxomin

            A friend has been contacted by a recruiter for an engineering position. Nice enough salary and an interesting job, he teels me. The problem is that he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck. He asked me if this is normal or too much or what. My first thought was... 10% of the first paycheck? of every paycheck? He said he didn't know but would ask. Indeed, it would make a huge, huge difference. But the truth is that I don't have experience on this so I'm putting the question to you gys. Anyone can give me any information to pass along? He is in Japan and the recruiters are a Japanese company and the job is at a Japanese company (he isn't Japanese), in case it matters.

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            Payment must be done by the employer :) and not the employee

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              No, it should not be paid by you. You have a salary, the company pays you that, on the agreed amount. The company pays the recruiter the fee.

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              DaTxomin
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              That's what I thought. If a company seeks the services of a recruiter, why would the employee have to pay? I does sound fishy, doesn't it?

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                First do Recruiters take money :omg: I thought they do it for free to help people find jobs

                The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                phannon86
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                I number of my grad friends went into Recruitment Consultancy, they tell me it's a pretty cut-throat competitive business.

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  I got £11,000 out of that!

                  I started liking this "Introductions" stuff :-D

                  The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  You have to know the right People to Introduce! But it is middleman tax really, I didn't mind when I got my cut though. :)

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                    I number of my grad friends went into Recruitment Consultancy, they tell me it's a pretty cut-throat competitive business.

                    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                    It is free here. you can find job listed in a free paper that is published weekly it is called "Alwaseet" in english means like "middleman"

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      You have to know the right People to Introduce! But it is middleman tax really, I didn't mind when I got my cut though. :)

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                      i know this is in business but i first time hear about Recruiters take money for being middleman as i said down here it is free here

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                        It is free here. you can find job listed in a free paper that is published weekly it is called "Alwaseet" in english means like "middleman"

                        The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                        phannon86
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                        The Web Developer wrote:

                        you can find job listed in a free pape

                        You can do that here too, the job of the consultants is to track down people who look like the person the company wants, tries to arrange an interview etc. then gets his comission if the guys gets hired.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Payment must be done by the employer :) and not the employee

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                          NOT the employer NOR the employee. It should be free I think

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                            The Web Developer wrote:

                            you can find job listed in a free pape

                            You can do that here too, the job of the consultants is to track down people who look like the person the company wants, tries to arrange an interview etc. then gets his comission if the guys gets hired.

                            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                            Phannon wrote:

                            arrange an interview etc. then gets his comission if the guys gets hired

                            "Alwaseet" the paper i was talking about they don't take comission even if the person gets hired they anly ask you to tell the company that you raed their post in their paperand that is it no money taken by teh paper

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                              i know this is in business but i first time hear about Recruiters take money for being middleman as i said down here it is free here

                              The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              Are yours paid for by the Government? We have "Job Centers" that are the same, free advertising no fees etc, but they are large monolithic things run by the government and aimed more at the lower end of the job market. Technical or skilled positions tend to be specialist recruitment company based.

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                                NOT the employer NOR the employee. It should be free I think

                                The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                                Dalek Dave
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                                Maybe there, but here it is not :((

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                                  Kickers? As in the shoe brand?:~ (only "kickers" I can think of atm)

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                                  Phannon wrote:

                                  Kickers? As in the shoe brand?:~ (only "kickers" I can think of atm)

                                  He meant to type knickers, as in underpants. Japan has vending machines where you can buy underwear that has supposably been worn by young, good looking, sexually active women, who for reasons known only to themselves decide to not wash and reuse but sell to some company. Sounds great doesn't it.

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                                  • L leppie

                                    No, it should not be paid by you. You have a salary, the company pays you that, on the agreed amount. The company pays the recruiter the fee.

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    Leppie, that's how it should be, but remember, in SA us wekkuhs are protected much more than other places in the world.

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                                      Phannon wrote:

                                      arrange an interview etc. then gets his comission if the guys gets hired

                                      "Alwaseet" the paper i was talking about they don't take comission even if the person gets hired they anly ask you to tell the company that you raed their post in their paperand that is it no money taken by teh paper

                                      The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                                      phannon86
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                                      Same here, if the company put an advert in the paper, they wouldn't charge a commission.

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                                        i know this is in business but i first time hear about Recruiters take money for being middleman as i said down here it is free here

                                        The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                                        Brady Kelly
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                                        On what money do the recruiters live?

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                                          NOT the employer NOR the employee. It should be free I think

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                                          How does the recruiter earn then? I never thought that they did recruiting voluntarily or as a social service :)

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