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  • F ftw melvin

    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of a reputable recruiter / company expecting a percentage fee from an employee for a permanent job. Is the job permanent or is it a contract? Contractors routinely pay a cut of their monthly pay (every month) to the job agency, anywhere from 10% to 50% (depending on who is getting screwed). Permanent staff are recruited with the company paying 10% to 50% of the annual salary to the job agency; often split in two halves - half immediately payable and half payable after a reasonable probationary period.

    "If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone." Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War. .

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    If your paying 50% you'd better have the Ky jelly, ouch!

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    • D DaTxomin

      Thank you for this information. My understanding is that he was told that the fee came to be 10% of his paycheck. It didn't occur to him to ask if it was his first check or every single one after. So I sent him back for details. Still, it does sound strange that _he_ has to pay. I wonder...

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      I would wonder as well, it really does sound like the recruiter is trying to scam your friend. Check with other recruiters what the normal practice is in japan.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      • D DaTxomin

        That's what I thought. If a company seeks the services of a recruiter, why would the employee have to pay? I does sound fishy, doesn't it?

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        Colin Angus Mackay
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        DaTxomin wrote:

        I does sound fishy, doesn't it?

        It is Japan and I understand they really like their seafood!

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        • L Lost User

          It is free here. you can find job listed in a free paper that is published weekly it is called "Alwaseet" in english means like "middleman"

          The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          And who pays for the advert?!

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          • L Lost User

            First do Recruiters take money :omg: I thought they do it for free to help people find jobs

            The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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            realJSOP
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            So much for trying to act normal, eh retard?

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            • J J4amieC

              :wtf: No, that would be per year! I think dave is underestimating a bit though, I get emailed alot of jobs in the £30K - £40K range, albeit they are in/around London where the cost of living is considerably higher.

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              J4amieC wrote:

              I get emailed alot of jobs in the £30K - £40K range, albeit they are in/around London where the cost of living is considerably higher.

              London developer salaries are depressed. It used to be that a London salary took into account the cost of living there, but now London developer salaries are pretty much what you'll get in the rest of the UK. Seriously, if you live in London and are a developer move out, you'll get paid the same, your cost of living will go down, consequently your standard of living will go up. I looked at relocating until I saw that I'd be earning the same as I get in Glasgow.

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                J4amieC wrote:

                I get emailed alot of jobs in the £30K - £40K range, albeit they are in/around London where the cost of living is considerably higher.

                London developer salaries are depressed. It used to be that a London salary took into account the cost of living there, but now London developer salaries are pretty much what you'll get in the rest of the UK. Seriously, if you live in London and are a developer move out, you'll get paid the same, your cost of living will go down, consequently your standard of living will go up. I looked at relocating until I saw that I'd be earning the same as I get in Glasgow.

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                Moving not really an option. I have friends and family close by, and a nice house i wouldn't part with.

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                • J J4amieC

                  almost certainly not.

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                  what is the range for fresh grad. ?

                  The Web Developer. Beirout-Lebanon

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                  • D DaTxomin

                    A friend has been contacted by a recruiter for an engineering position. Nice enough salary and an interesting job, he teels me. The problem is that he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck. He asked me if this is normal or too much or what. My first thought was... 10% of the first paycheck? of every paycheck? He said he didn't know but would ask. Indeed, it would make a huge, huge difference. But the truth is that I don't have experience on this so I'm putting the question to you gys. Anyone can give me any information to pass along? He is in Japan and the recruiters are a Japanese company and the job is at a Japanese company (he isn't Japanese), in case it matters.

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                    El Corazon
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                    DaTxomin wrote:

                    he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck.

                    Bull****. The company who hired him might pay a finder's fee to the recruiter, but it should not come from the employee, ever! and it is a ONE TIME FEE.

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                    • D DaTxomin

                      A friend has been contacted by a recruiter for an engineering position. Nice enough salary and an interesting job, he teels me. The problem is that he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck. He asked me if this is normal or too much or what. My first thought was... 10% of the first paycheck? of every paycheck? He said he didn't know but would ask. Indeed, it would make a huge, huge difference. But the truth is that I don't have experience on this so I'm putting the question to you gys. Anyone can give me any information to pass along? He is in Japan and the recruiters are a Japanese company and the job is at a Japanese company (he isn't Japanese), in case it matters.

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      Recruiters act as a middle man paying you after being paid or receiving a lump sum from the company after the hire. The fee for a full-time placement is usually a percentage of the annual salary and for a contract placement a percentage of the hourly rate. I have written a letter to Satan asking him to create a special circle of hell just for recruiters. Unfortunately, I don't know Satan so I had to forward the letter to (insert name of person here) to get it there.

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                      • E El Corazon

                        DaTxomin wrote:

                        he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck.

                        Bull****. The company who hired him might pay a finder's fee to the recruiter, but it should not come from the employee, ever! and it is a ONE TIME FEE.

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                        DaTxomin
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                        Are you in Japan or know about recruiting in Japan? (I saw your sig) I'm asking because maybe things are different there and I would like to be sure. After all, the consensus seems to be that my friend is being scammed so if I tell him this, I want to be as certain as possible.

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                        • D DaTxomin

                          Are you in Japan or know about recruiting in Japan? (I saw your sig) I'm asking because maybe things are different there and I would like to be sure. After all, the consensus seems to be that my friend is being scammed so if I tell him this, I want to be as certain as possible.

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                          El Corazon
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                          no I am in the states. I cannot imagine any country corrupt enough to allow this to happen. However a quick call to the police station and local equivalent of the scam hunting group therein will tell you. I think he is being scammed and it is also criminal in intent.

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                          • D DaTxomin

                            A friend has been contacted by a recruiter for an engineering position. Nice enough salary and an interesting job, he teels me. The problem is that he was told that hiring company pays nothing to the recruiters and that the recruiter's fee was 10% of his paycheck. He asked me if this is normal or too much or what. My first thought was... 10% of the first paycheck? of every paycheck? He said he didn't know but would ask. Indeed, it would make a huge, huge difference. But the truth is that I don't have experience on this so I'm putting the question to you gys. Anyone can give me any information to pass along? He is in Japan and the recruiters are a Japanese company and the job is at a Japanese company (he isn't Japanese), in case it matters.

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                            Roger Wright
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                            If the hiring company doesn't pay the fee, don't touch it. Ever.

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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