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Using VS 2005 with multi-monitors. [SOLVED]

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  • K keyboard warrior

    a bigger monitor will solve this problem. perhaps a nice 32" ;P

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    Dan Neely
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    jgasm wrote:

    perhaps a nice 32"

    no more resolution (1920x1080) than on a 24. The only consumer monitors with a higher res are the 30" 2560x1600 models. A 27" 23nnX1440 monitor would fit nicely between the two with roughly the same pixel scale but no one's made one. :(( If you get a 30" super monitor, make sure your computer can run it at native resolution, many laptops (with lower end GPUs) cannot. The same problem exists with desktops, but a GPU upgrade there is cheap and painless.

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      So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

      John

      modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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      daniilzol
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      I have my VS setup to exactly what you're trying to achieve and I don't have any problems. My main monitor is just code, the right one has solution explorer, properties, output, find, debug windows and other misc stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. Mine works perfectly fine, zero complaints. You just have to remember that visual studio remembers two windows configurations: one for coding, and one for debugging, meaning you can have different sets of windows configurations when you're just coding or debugging. Of course, you have to setup both of them initially.

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        I have my VS setup to exactly what you're trying to achieve and I don't have any problems. My main monitor is just code, the right one has solution explorer, properties, output, find, debug windows and other misc stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. Mine works perfectly fine, zero complaints. You just have to remember that visual studio remembers two windows configurations: one for coding, and one for debugging, meaning you can have different sets of windows configurations when you're just coding or debugging. Of course, you have to setup both of them initially.

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        John M Drescher
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        Thanks. For the mean time I made it one window and stretched the monitor. I will try again after todays debug session...

        John

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        • D daniilzol

          I have my VS setup to exactly what you're trying to achieve and I don't have any problems. My main monitor is just code, the right one has solution explorer, properties, output, find, debug windows and other misc stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. Mine works perfectly fine, zero complaints. You just have to remember that visual studio remembers two windows configurations: one for coding, and one for debugging, meaning you can have different sets of windows configurations when you're just coding or debugging. Of course, you have to setup both of them initially.

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          John M Drescher
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          Thanks. It seems to be working now. The big difference is I setup the layouts now when I was debugging first instead of when I was coding.

          John

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          • J John M Drescher

            So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

            John

            modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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            peterchen
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            Same as JazzJackRabbit - yes, in the beginning windows "jump around" when switchign modes, btu that seemed to settle quickly. I am seriously annoyed though that, when putting external help on the second monitor and switching back to the code window, the tool windows cover help.

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              jgasm wrote:

              perhaps a nice 32"

              no more resolution (1920x1080) than on a 24. The only consumer monitors with a higher res are the 30" 2560x1600 models. A 27" 23nnX1440 monitor would fit nicely between the two with roughly the same pixel scale but no one's made one. :(( If you get a 30" super monitor, make sure your computer can run it at native resolution, many laptops (with lower end GPUs) cannot. The same problem exists with desktops, but a GPU upgrade there is cheap and painless.

              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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              realJSOP
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              dan neely wrote:

              many laptops (with lower end GPUs) cannot.

              A lot of the newer laptops allow you to upgrade your GPU (my Acer allows it). You just have to choose wisely.

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              • J John M Drescher

                So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

                John

                modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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                Lost User
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                I use them as floating windows and it's fine.

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                • P peterchen

                  Same as JazzJackRabbit - yes, in the beginning windows "jump around" when switchign modes, btu that seemed to settle quickly. I am seriously annoyed though that, when putting external help on the second monitor and switching back to the code window, the tool windows cover help.

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                  Sepster
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                  Yep I'm with you. I too use multi monitors and float a group of docked tool windows together on the non-code monitor, and find it really annoying that the help page is obscured (or vice versa the tools obscured by help). It's a shame the help is treated as a seperate app such that you can't nicely integrate it into the VS2005 ide (eg as another dockable window).

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                  • J John M Drescher

                    So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

                    John

                    modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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                    Mike Diack
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                    How well does VS 2008 support multi monitors? Mike

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                      How well does VS 2008 support multi monitors? Mike

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                      Jag14
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                      The Same as VS2005 Roughly, You still have to set up the individual modes, but once done it's fine. JaG

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                      • S Sepster

                        Yep I'm with you. I too use multi monitors and float a group of docked tool windows together on the non-code monitor, and find it really annoying that the help page is obscured (or vice versa the tools obscured by help). It's a shame the help is treated as a seperate app such that you can't nicely integrate it into the VS2005 ide (eg as another dockable window).

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                        It would be even better if you could "pull out" documents, and that might include help. Ideally, I'd just like to open another "mainframe window" instance for each monitor, where I can drag both tabbed documents and dockable windows to. They would be independent in the sense that activating one won't bring the others to the foreground, but there should be some visual clue that they "belong together".

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

                          John

                          modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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                          fred_
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                          VS 2005? Why not switch to 2008?

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                            How well does VS 2008 support multi monitors? Mike

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                            Matthew Turner
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                            Yes, this is the real WTF... why in September 2008 would you upgrade from VS2003 to VS2005 instead of VS2008... ?

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                              How well does VS 2008 support multi monitors? Mike

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                              Lost User
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                              Same as 2005. I have the same setup as described and it works fine.

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                                Yes, this is the real WTF... why in September 2008 would you upgrade from VS2003 to VS2005 instead of VS2008... ?

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Needing to do a project in the 2.0 framework and not being aware that 2008 can target the 2.0 framework (unlike 2002/2003/2005 which couldn't target older frameworks).

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                                  VS 2005? Why not switch to 2008?

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                                  John M Drescher
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                                  Because our annual software licensing renewal has not occurred so I do not have the media. And also, switching will cause me to have to upgrade 10 or so machines (which already have VC6, 2003 and 2005) and I do not have the time for this.

                                  John

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                                  • M Matthew Turner

                                    Yes, this is the real WTF... why in September 2008 would you upgrade from VS2003 to VS2005 instead of VS2008... ?

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                                    John M Drescher
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                                    See my post below: http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=2721215#xx2721215xx[^]

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                                      Because our annual software licensing renewal has not occurred so I do not have the media. And also, switching will cause me to have to upgrade 10 or so machines (which already have VC6, 2003 and 2005) and I do not have the time for this.

                                      John

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                                      Matthew Turner
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                                      There's a good reason for everything. I once had to reinstall VSTS2005 for ~20 devs and patch to SP1... took hours even doing it simultaneously! I had to do it on a Saturday to not distrupt dev time. Having said that, once it's done, it's done!

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                                      • J John M Drescher

                                        So I am now converting to VS 2005 after having used VS 2003 for a few years. And the big problem is VS2005 seems to be worse at handling 2 monitors (or more) than VS2003 was. What I basically want (had with vs 2003) is to put the code window on the primary monitor and most of the dockable windows on the second monitor inside 1 single window with tabs on the bottom to select between the many windows. This was a little work getting this to work correctly with VS2003 but with VS2005 this seems to be a nightmare. Every time I click debug I get dozens of disconnected dockable windows on the primary monitor even though the last debug session I docked them on the second monitor. Am I wasting my time? Is there a better tool than the "Window Manager" addin to handle this mess?

                                        John

                                        modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:00 PM

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                                        John M Drescher
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                                        Hmm. Someone does not like multi-monitors, VS 2005, my problem or me? :sigh:

                                        John

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                                        • P peterchen

                                          It would be even better if you could "pull out" documents, and that might include help. Ideally, I'd just like to open another "mainframe window" instance for each monitor, where I can drag both tabbed documents and dockable windows to. They would be independent in the sense that activating one won't bring the others to the foreground, but there should be some visual clue that they "belong together".

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                                          SSLaks
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                                          If you set help to open internally and make the tab dockable, you can. (internal help windows are dockable, like Object Browser) I have four monitors and I do what you have described but with help & object browser on my third monitor.

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