Solving the low voting system
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I'd like to be rewarded with alcohol for every vote I cast. So, a 1 vote is 1 pint, and a 5 vote is 5 pints. I'll save the really, really crap articles to the end of the evening when I'm at the falling down stage, and I can only cram 2 or 3 more pintsvotes down my maw. Bring on the quality articles my man. Bring em on.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Bring on the quality articles my man
Ok. Just thought of one based on a different thread from earlier :)
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I'd like to be rewarded with alcohol for every vote I cast. So, a 1 vote is 1 pint, and a 5 vote is 5 pints. I'll save the really, really crap articles to the end of the evening when I'm at the falling down stage, and I can only cram 2 or 3 more pintsvotes down my maw. Bring on the quality articles my man. Bring em on.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
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After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
3. Although no one will agree as I have said this before and I have gotten only negative comments about this, I believe the best thing to happen on all votes (articles, and forums) is not to display the result of any vote until a sufficient # of votes have been cast. I believe 5 or so will do. This way an idiot who votes 1 will not count until 4 other voters vote and at that time the old rules apply.
John
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And I can see now that all the comments for 1 votes would be similar to asdfasdfasfd or padiofjapofqpoi or qpasjfiqprijar...
Unfortunate but true, especially if we keep comments anomymous. Anyway, I don't think this problem will go away anytime soon!
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
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After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
I added a comment[^] to John's post. But for those who can't follow a hyperlink here's my two cents worth - although it may need adjustment to account for inflation and sales taxes. Some people vote 1 point because they genuinely feel that something sucks. Some people vote 1 point because that's the measure of their own life. We want to encourage the former and minimise the latter (give them back a "1 vote" to reflect their voting pattern that in turn reflects their life). Currently, voting is distinguished from leaving a message. To vote and leave a message requires two separate submissions. My suggestion is to explicitly combine voting and leaving a message. Anyone can still just vote, or just leave a message, or combine both in one action. Where they have to do both is if they are an early voter for a message or article, regardless of what their vote is (otherwise slime-bag 1 voters will just become 2 voters). Or where they vote against the trend. Of course, their message can get voted down (or up), and this can be used to give a weighting to their vote. The message can also be marked as spam/abuse and the associated vote discarded entirely.
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After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
1. (As long as noone comes up with a functional 3.) Keep it as it is, and keep the monitoring up. Keep in mind that one-voters don't have the goal to vote ones, their goal is to disrupt. 2. would be enough for most articles, though. It lacks the "you at least tried, I recognize that" and the "good, but not truly excellent" ratings, but I figure I could live without them. "Yes, No, Don't care" is so much easier to decide :) 5. Using the bookmarking with an cough*articlerank*cough* algorithm could probably be balanced to work very well, but consider that google proofs that this isn't infallible either.
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After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
Ernest Laurentin wrote:
2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post)
Actually, it's "Mark article as useful, or don't mark it at all."
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
And I can see now that all the comments for 1 votes would be similar to asdfasdfasfd or padiofjapofqpoi or qpasjfiqprijar...
I suggested the "comment-required" idea a couple of years ago. The problem you mention could be solved by writing code to thwart that kind of comment, and combine that with allowing the author to appeal the 1-vote. When all is said and done, the pre-screening we do before an article is made available for public viewing *should* have weeded out all articles that would garner a 1 or 2 vote for quality, technical viability, or other *real* reasons to vote an article a 1 or 2. Given that realization, there's really no point in voting 3-5, and instead we should just be voting whether an article is "useful".
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
After reading the John post here[^]...I thought this could be useful as a poll question. What corrections would you support for the voting system? 1. None, I like it the way it is 2. Mark Article as useful or non useful (see. John post) 3. (your suggestion) 4. Ban 1-vote without comment (:confused:), rule should apply to all not just Bronze users. 5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - Martin Luther King Jr. Ernest Laurentin
modified on Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:20 PM
Ernest Laurentin wrote:
5. Solicit users who bookmarked an article to rate it (if they haven't so, they are truly the ones using it)
I have suggested it here: Bookmarks and votes[^]
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