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    Rocky Moore
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    So, how goes it with you all, have you settled on a browser and all happy with it yet? With all the different browsers to choose from, are you good to go now? I switched back over to IE 7 when I started using Vista 64. So far it seems to handle everything pretty good and I have no major complaints. Love the searchbox on the for left side and have a bunch of different search providers. IE 7 seems to handle my 300 or so RSS feed pretty good and I really like the fact it is built in without the need of another app to handle feeds. My only complaints (or wish list) is I would like to be able to use more space in the frame by condensing bars better, but not a biggy. The other would be that it forgets my user name/passwords for different sites at times and I have to hunt them up again, not that big of deal either. So, what about you, what is your favorite, why, and how long have you been with it?

    Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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      So, how goes it with you all, have you settled on a browser and all happy with it yet? With all the different browsers to choose from, are you good to go now? I switched back over to IE 7 when I started using Vista 64. So far it seems to handle everything pretty good and I have no major complaints. Love the searchbox on the for left side and have a bunch of different search providers. IE 7 seems to handle my 300 or so RSS feed pretty good and I really like the fact it is built in without the need of another app to handle feeds. My only complaints (or wish list) is I would like to be able to use more space in the frame by condensing bars better, but not a biggy. The other would be that it forgets my user name/passwords for different sites at times and I have to hunt them up again, not that big of deal either. So, what about you, what is your favorite, why, and how long have you been with it?

      Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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      FireFox is my default, mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it. Plus, I can spy on other websites, which gives me the illusion I might be in control. If FireBug was available for other browsers, I might be convinced to switch, or at least feel like I have other options. I run Chrome too, but haven't really put it through it's paces, although the javascript does seem faster.


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        FireFox is my default, mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it. Plus, I can spy on other websites, which gives me the illusion I might be in control. If FireBug was available for other browsers, I might be convinced to switch, or at least feel like I have other options. I run Chrome too, but haven't really put it through it's paces, although the javascript does seem faster.


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        I still use Firefox for some of its developer extentions and of course for testing, but my day browser is IE 64 now. It does not have active-x abilities so I have more control as to when I want to use them, and being 64 bit, it is pretty fast.

        Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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        • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

          FireFox is my default, mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it. Plus, I can spy on other websites, which gives me the illusion I might be in control. If FireBug was available for other browsers, I might be convinced to switch, or at least feel like I have other options. I run Chrome too, but haven't really put it through it's paces, although the javascript does seem faster.


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          IE Developer Toolbar: http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?familyid=E59C3964-672D-4511-BB3E-2D5E1DB91038&displaylang=en[^] Doesn't seem as powerful as firebug but its still useful


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            I still use Firefox for some of its developer extentions and of course for testing, but my day browser is IE 64 now. It does not have active-x abilities so I have more control as to when I want to use them, and being 64 bit, it is pretty fast.

            Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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            Rocky Moore wrote:

            and being 64 bit, it is pretty fast

            Actually, if you take a look in Task Manager, iexplore.exe is marked with *32, so it does not run on x64 code.

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              and being 64 bit, it is pretty fast

              Actually, if you take a look in Task Manager, iexplore.exe is marked with *32, so it does not run on x64 code.

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              Actually, :) that is if you ARE running the 32 bit version of IE, in Vista 64 we have both 32 bit and 64 bit. They are at (on my machine): "C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" - 32 bit "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" - 64 bit

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                Actually, :) that is if you ARE running the 32 bit version of IE, in Vista 64 we have both 32 bit and 64 bit. They are at (on my machine): "C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" - 32 bit "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" - 64 bit

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                Dario Solera
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                Didn't know there were two versions. :-O I just clicked on the IE icon in the quick start bar. That shows how much I use IE. :-D

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                  IE Developer Toolbar: http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?familyid=E59C3964-672D-4511-BB3E-2D5E1DB91038&displaylang=en[^] Doesn't seem as powerful as firebug but its still useful


                  http://www.catch22.net

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                  Have it, but it pales in comparison. There's also Fiddler[^] that theoretically let's you view http traffic, but I've never been able to get it to work consistently.


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                    Didn't know there were two versions. :-O I just clicked on the IE icon in the quick start bar. That shows how much I use IE. :-D

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    :) Yeah, it is pretty handy, the 64 bit versions up clean and fast and does not have the ability to run flash / active-x (problem hosting 32 bit apps I guess). Makes it safer to borwse and I switch over to the 32 bit version when I need Flash / Silverlight. I would like to get the time and actually build a content menu to the 64 bit version with option to load the current IE window in 32 bit version for those times I need it :)

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                    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                      Have it, but it pales in comparison. There's also Fiddler[^] that theoretically let's you view http traffic, but I've never been able to get it to work consistently.


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                      Yeah, Fiddler is a great tool to watch what is coming and going!

                      Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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                      • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                        FireFox is my default, mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it. Plus, I can spy on other websites, which gives me the illusion I might be in control. If FireBug was available for other browsers, I might be convinced to switch, or at least feel like I have other options. I run Chrome too, but haven't really put it through it's paces, although the javascript does seem faster.


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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        I usually use Maxthon (mostly because of its group management features and mouse gesture support). Firefox 3 runs a close second, with IE7 (I really detest that UI!) bringing up the rear.

                        Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                          I usually use Maxthon (mostly because of its group management features and mouse gesture support). Firefox 3 runs a close second, with IE7 (I really detest that UI!) bringing up the rear.

                          Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                          Maxthon is based on the IE engine, correct? I tried mouse gestures once, but couldn't get the hang of it. Backspace key was much faster than trying to draw an arrow with the mouse, at least for me. :) Maybe I'll give them another shot, although I have a touch screen laptop now, with way to many input devices - touchpad, stylus, finger, wireless mouse, fingerprint reader, keyboard. All I need is voice recognition and wet wire to complete the collection!


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                            So, how goes it with you all, have you settled on a browser and all happy with it yet? With all the different browsers to choose from, are you good to go now? I switched back over to IE 7 when I started using Vista 64. So far it seems to handle everything pretty good and I have no major complaints. Love the searchbox on the for left side and have a bunch of different search providers. IE 7 seems to handle my 300 or so RSS feed pretty good and I really like the fact it is built in without the need of another app to handle feeds. My only complaints (or wish list) is I would like to be able to use more space in the frame by condensing bars better, but not a biggy. The other would be that it forgets my user name/passwords for different sites at times and I have to hunt them up again, not that big of deal either. So, what about you, what is your favorite, why, and how long have you been with it?

                            Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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                            I've been using Opera for years (I think they were one of the first browsers that I came across with tabs and have had them since about version 5 or something, and Speed Dial is extremely useful), but I second with Firefox and only touch IE when I need to - testing during development work or looking on Microsoft websites etc. Of course, unfortunately I have to use all of them during web dev testing, as I like to aim for full compatibility in IE, FF, Opera, Safari (and now Chrome) but I find that the only real annoyance is IE, which still is the black sheep. Regards, --Perspx

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                            • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                              Maxthon is based on the IE engine, correct? I tried mouse gestures once, but couldn't get the hang of it. Backspace key was much faster than trying to draw an arrow with the mouse, at least for me. :) Maybe I'll give them another shot, although I have a touch screen laptop now, with way to many input devices - touchpad, stylus, finger, wireless mouse, fingerprint reader, keyboard. All I need is voice recognition and wet wire to complete the collection!


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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              Steve Echols wrote:

                              Maxthon is based on the IE engine, correct?

                              Unfortunately, yes. Plenty of people are prodding them to do a Gecko variant, but it just isn't happening at the moment.

                              Steve Echols wrote:

                              I tried mouse gestures once, but couldn't get the hang of it. Backspace key was much faster than trying to draw an arrow with the mouse, at least for me.

                              You don't have to draw an arrow, at least not in Maxthon - dragging the mouse slightly to the right opens a link in a new tab next to the current one (that's the killer feature for me - it's the only gesture I use). I tried the gestures plug-in for Firefox a while back and it just didn't work for me.

                              Steve Echols wrote:

                              Maybe I'll give them another shot, although I have a touch screen laptop now, with way to many input devices - touchpad, stylus, finger, wireless mouse, fingerprint reader, keyboard. All I need is voice recognition and wet wire to complete the collection!

                              The more the merrier, I say. ;) Mind you, I've always thought that the problem with fingerprint input is that you end up with lots of fingerprints on your screen (which would drive me nuts!).

                              Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                I've been using Opera for years (I think they were one of the first browsers that I came across with tabs and have had them since about version 5 or something, and Speed Dial is extremely useful), but I second with Firefox and only touch IE when I need to - testing during development work or looking on Microsoft websites etc. Of course, unfortunately I have to use all of them during web dev testing, as I like to aim for full compatibility in IE, FF, Opera, Safari (and now Chrome) but I find that the only real annoyance is IE, which still is the black sheep. Regards, --Perspx

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                                I too have been using, and loving Opera for years. Favourite feature: Persistant tabs. When windows update, a crash, or misclick on a close button kills your browser, just start it back up and you're right where you left off. Would be nice to have some way of writing extensions/bars into the browser though, widgets are kinda useless IMO (other than the aquarium)

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                                  So, how goes it with you all, have you settled on a browser and all happy with it yet? With all the different browsers to choose from, are you good to go now? I switched back over to IE 7 when I started using Vista 64. So far it seems to handle everything pretty good and I have no major complaints. Love the searchbox on the for left side and have a bunch of different search providers. IE 7 seems to handle my 300 or so RSS feed pretty good and I really like the fact it is built in without the need of another app to handle feeds. My only complaints (or wish list) is I would like to be able to use more space in the frame by condensing bars better, but not a biggy. The other would be that it forgets my user name/passwords for different sites at times and I have to hunt them up again, not that big of deal either. So, what about you, what is your favorite, why, and how long have you been with it?

                                  Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: One method of adding Odiogo to Subtext

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                                  Many people think a browser is a browser is a browser and see no reason to switch from whatever is their default. My own browser history (for primary browser) has been Netscape from 1994 to roughly 1998. Then IE 4 to IE 6. During that time I tried Opera as an alternative but didn't regard it as god enough to be primary. For about the past couple of years or so it's been Firefox as my No. 1. IE 7 is better than IE 6 but still doesn't cut the mustard for me for various reasons. Not yet tried Chrome and don't plan to do so for a while. Still have Opera as an alternative.

                                  Rocky Moore wrote:

                                  The other would be that it forgets my user name/passwords for different sites at times and I have to hunt them up again

                                  I tried IE7 as default at work for a while earlier this year but then gave up because of this kind of thing. It kept losing my Google login. As I use the Google services constantly this was a major usability faux pas.

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                                    I too have been using, and loving Opera for years. Favourite feature: Persistant tabs. When windows update, a crash, or misclick on a close button kills your browser, just start it back up and you're right where you left off. Would be nice to have some way of writing extensions/bars into the browser though, widgets are kinda useless IMO (other than the aquarium)

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                                    Yeah persistent tabs are brilliant :) Especially when you have about 10 tabs open and then Windows decides to screw up. That would be my suggestion too - they seem to be quite good at putting new and useful features into Opera so perhaps some sort of extensions feature will be built into a future version. Regards, --Perspx

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                                      FireFox is my default, mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it. Plus, I can spy on other websites, which gives me the illusion I might be in control. If FireBug was available for other browsers, I might be convinced to switch, or at least feel like I have other options. I run Chrome too, but haven't really put it through it's paces, although the javascript does seem faster.


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                                      Steve Echols wrote:

                                      mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it.

                                      Same here. I had Firebug installed at home for ages but never had cause to use it. Then I was doing heavy CSS and JavaScript at work this year. My first Eureka moment was struggling with CSS for hours and hours. Then decided to try Firebug and started solving problems within a few minutes. After that it was "JavaScript hell" and I lost count of the number of times it led me out. :) However, it also means that I now hate JavaScript with a vengeance. :mad:

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                                        Yeah persistent tabs are brilliant :) Especially when you have about 10 tabs open and then Windows decides to screw up. That would be my suggestion too - they seem to be quite good at putting new and useful features into Opera so perhaps some sort of extensions feature will be built into a future version. Regards, --Perspx

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                                        Hmm, well i tend to use tabs instead of bookmarks. I have 3 browser windows on my laptop each with 15-20 tabs, and one on my PC (acts as 3rd screen) with 16 tabs right now :)

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                                          Steve Echols wrote:

                                          mainly because of FireBug. Can't even begin to tell you how many problems I've solved with it.

                                          Same here. I had Firebug installed at home for ages but never had cause to use it. Then I was doing heavy CSS and JavaScript at work this year. My first Eureka moment was struggling with CSS for hours and hours. Then decided to try Firebug and started solving problems within a few minutes. After that it was "JavaScript hell" and I lost count of the number of times it led me out. :) However, it also means that I now hate JavaScript with a vengeance. :mad:

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                                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                          However, it also means that I now hate JavaScript with a vengeance.

                                          Haven't you always done that? :confused: Regards, --Perspx

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