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  • G Giorgi Dalakishvili

    One more os? HP OS to Counter Vista.[^]

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    Steve Echols
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    Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Whenever I buy an HP, I have to wipe it and install the OS again. This would definitely be an endless loop! :)


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    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

      Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Whenever I buy an HP, I have to wipe it and install the OS again. This would definitely be an endless loop! :)


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      kirankss
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      Hmmm you are the first person I know of who does that!!! Guess we should start following your footsteps and get a cleaner/faster system.

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        Hmmm you are the first person I know of who does that!!! Guess we should start following your footsteps and get a cleaner/faster system.

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        Steve Echols
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        Do you mean buy an HP, or wipe it? :laugh:


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        • R realJSOP

          How many people here would kill for a dependable guaranteed compatible Linux-based system? If a small number of big-name hardware manufacturers (including HP, Dell, Gateway, and Lenovo) got behind this, they could make Linux a true contender for the desktop.

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          "How many people here would kill for a dependable guaranteed compatible Linux based system?" and pay the same as Windows for it?...... I find the whole Linux discussion to be very odd. After some initial success the progress of the operating system seems to have fragmented into a million shards, and implicit in Johns post the different options are no more reliable than the commercial alternatives. It seems to me that the Linux community is split into 2 main groups: 1. Those who have religion about Operating Systems. 2. Those who are unwilling/can't afford to pay for software but have an abundance of cheap labor to handle the configuration of freeware If you take group 2 out of the equation I suspect the answer to your question is "very few". Group2 sounds like the 3rd World and education.

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          • G Giorgi Dalakishvili

            One more os? HP OS to Counter Vista.[^]

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            Jonathan C Dickinson
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            Whoopie! Another distro, another nail in Linux's bed. How about backing one of the established ones?

            He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Chineese Proverb] Jonathan C Dickinson (C# Software Engineer)

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            • G Giorgi Dalakishvili

              One more os? HP OS to Counter Vista.[^]

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              Between my Hp Printer and my Microsoft OS it a nail biting competition for the most crashes per month. So forgive me if I'm not extatic about this.

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              • A Andrew Wiles

                "How many people here would kill for a dependable guaranteed compatible Linux based system?" and pay the same as Windows for it?...... I find the whole Linux discussion to be very odd. After some initial success the progress of the operating system seems to have fragmented into a million shards, and implicit in Johns post the different options are no more reliable than the commercial alternatives. It seems to me that the Linux community is split into 2 main groups: 1. Those who have religion about Operating Systems. 2. Those who are unwilling/can't afford to pay for software but have an abundance of cheap labor to handle the configuration of freeware If you take group 2 out of the equation I suspect the answer to your question is "very few". Group2 sounds like the 3rd World and education.

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                Andrew Wiles wrote:

                Group2 sounds like the 3rd World and education.

                3rd world, education, and emergency services in the USA. the latter generally get lower budgets than education.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Perhaps, but I expect most buyers would rather spend more and get less. :~ Most Code Projectors generally wipe the hard drives anyway. HP already provides the best OS there is -- OpenVMS ! (Free to hobbyists too.) :jig:

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                  I started working with VMS at Version V2 :sigh: :omg:

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                  • V VentsyV

                    True generally speaking, however, the fact is that a lot of Windows instability is caused by HP not configuring your OS correctly and/or pre-loading your machine with a lot of crap-wear. Just an example: Couple of years ago, my sister bought an HP desktop. It came with about 300Mb of installed drivers for HP printers. Never mind the fact you might not be using HP printer at all. I doubt that HP can command premium price if they move their hardware to Linux. In fact, they pass the cost of the OS to the buyer possibly even making a profit. If they move to Linux, they'll have the extra costs of maintaining the OS that combined with user entrenchment and user reluctance to switch OSes might actually cost HP money. In fact, the way for them to go is to stop installing crap-wear and optimize your configuration.

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                    VentsyV wrote:

                    In fact, the way for them to go is to stop installing crap-wear and optimize your configuration.

                    Exactly! Back in 2000, I bought an HP - took me almost a full day to clean off the junk, but once I did, I had cut boot time nearly in half (58 sec vs 92!), and I did not experience nearly the same instabilities that many owners of the same model expressed problems with! Just about every other manufacturer does the same thing, but HP seems to be one of the worst. Can a mortal ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Quite easily, I should think. All nonsense questions are unanswerable. C. S. Lewis

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                    • V VentsyV

                      True generally speaking, however, the fact is that a lot of Windows instability is caused by HP not configuring your OS correctly and/or pre-loading your machine with a lot of crap-wear. Just an example: Couple of years ago, my sister bought an HP desktop. It came with about 300Mb of installed drivers for HP printers. Never mind the fact you might not be using HP printer at all. I doubt that HP can command premium price if they move their hardware to Linux. In fact, they pass the cost of the OS to the buyer possibly even making a profit. If they move to Linux, they'll have the extra costs of maintaining the OS that combined with user entrenchment and user reluctance to switch OSes might actually cost HP money. In fact, the way for them to go is to stop installing crap-wear and optimize your configuration.

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                      VentsyV wrote:

                      In fact, the way for them to go is to stop installing crap-wear and optimize your configuration.

                      Well said! Bravo!

                      Being smarter than you look always beats looking smarter than you are.

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                      • B bVagadishnu

                        I started working with VMS at Version V2 :sigh: :omg:

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        bVagadishnu wrote:

                        I started working with VMS at Version V2

                        Were you @ ZKO? /ravi (VMS user 1981-1994, Worked @ DEC 1987-1994)

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          bVagadishnu wrote:

                          I started working with VMS at Version V2

                          Were you @ ZKO? /ravi (VMS user 1981-1994, Worked @ DEC 1987-1994)

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                          Were you @ ZKO?

                          I was @ DEC 1977-2006. Started when plant codes were only 2 characters :) WM->ML->WM->MRO->TWO->WMO->NQO I was at ZKO for meetings and the like. I liked the sign they had at the front entrance

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                          • B bVagadishnu

                            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                            Were you @ ZKO?

                            I was @ DEC 1977-2006. Started when plant codes were only 2 characters :) WM->ML->WM->MRO->TWO->WMO->NQO I was at ZKO for meetings and the like. I liked the sign they had at the front entrance

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Wow, that's quite a tenure! Btw, my Mass license plate is VAX-VMS. Images 2, 3 and 5 on this[^] page might bring a smile to your face. /ravi

                            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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