Do all programmers suffer from OCD?
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In my opinion Autism is the new popular diagnosis, much like ADD was in the 90's (Its almost impossible to know for sure, but there were countless kids who were prescribed riddlin that most likely did not need it)
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That's what my wife said, she calls it "childhood disease", parent's would come in saying their kid is hyperactive and must be ADHD when all they were being was a rambunctious child. Now not only are kids not allowed to do anything, must be afraid of everyone and must partake of 15,000 extra-curricular activities at age 5 to enable them to get into a university and amass debt they can never repay. They also aren't allowed to behave like kids.
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Paul Brower wrote:
Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
I know a few programmers that could do with a dose of OCD because their shoddy lack of thoroughness leaves a lot to be desired.
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Or are you just obsessing over your colleages?
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You forgot the try/catch around checking for equality :doh: ;P
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
Paul Brower wrote:
Do you have OCD?
Nope.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Powerpoint :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Me too. I have a hard time listening to other people because they seem to be saying unintelligent things. I need constant stimulation else I get bored quickly. I say things that other don't immediately understand; some people will understand what I said after a week or so. I am a control freak too. I have to check everything. Many times I'm not sure that I did something, so I do again, and again.... just to really be sure.... Not good for relationships but very good for picking up errors in code and typos in resumes.
SilimSayo wrote:
have a hard time listening to other people because they seem to be saying unintelligent things
Yeah, when that happens to me, it just seems like the other people are saying blah-blah-blah like the grownups on the old Charlie Brown cartoons :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
Paul Brower wrote:
I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed.
Is that it? I run NUnit on my alarm clock before going to bed. :~
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
Don't know about OCD, but several studies have found that engineers suffer from dyslexia at higher rates that society in general. This creates a real problem in our over tested high formalized education system which pushes anyone who thinks differently than education bureaucrats out of the system. (It doesn't help that education bureaucrats are amongst the dumbest people I've ever met or listened to and have a striking lack of imagination. And people wonder why schools are screwed up.)
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Paul Brower wrote:
I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed.
Is that it? I run NUnit on my alarm clock before going to bed. :~
:laugh:
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Powerpoint :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Open office. ;P ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
Paul Brower wrote:
Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
I think it has something to do with the different types of programmers. There is not one stereotype for a programmer, but several. You do have the OCD programmer, and the artistic programmer. The artistic programmer forgets everything except for his own code -- sometimes his own name. That is me, the absent minded programmer. I am working on flubber code. I even put tennis shoes on my computer to help. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Open office. ;P ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Star Office :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Paul Brower wrote:
Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
I think it has something to do with the different types of programmers. There is not one stereotype for a programmer, but several. You do have the OCD programmer, and the artistic programmer. The artistic programmer forgets everything except for his own code -- sometimes his own name. That is me, the absent minded programmer. I am working on flubber code. I even put tennis shoes on my computer to help. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
But do you remember your name, or is that why you named yourself after a body part? ;)
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But do you remember your name, or is that why you named yourself after a body part? ;)
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MidwestLimey wrote:
But do you remember your name
I only worked 10 hours last night, went home early... so today I remember... ask me tomorrow. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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MidwestLimey wrote:
But do you remember your name
I only worked 10 hours last night, went home early... so today I remember... ask me tomorrow. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
OK. Tomorrow? PS What exactly does that question mean to you? I'm stumped. :laugh:
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OK. Tomorrow? PS What exactly does that question mean to you? I'm stumped. :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
It means.... The sun will come out tomorrow...
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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It means.... The sun will come out tomorrow...
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
always be careful what you ask for. I understand the true nature of the mountains of madness. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Many people I know would say I suffer from some sort of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - for anyone not familiar with the term). I have never been 'diagnosed', nor have I ever sought any kind of treatment or medication, because I just consider myself to have a few behavioral quirks. An example of some of my quirks are: - I have to lock my vehicle (with remote) three times. - I check my alarm clock a few times before going to bed. - I have to get up at a certain time, be off to work at a certain time, etc, or I have a bad day. - I have to wash my hands immediately after eating at a public place. - ... you get the idea. Looking back at my life, I realized I never had 'OCD issues' before I was a programmer. Looking at other programmers around me I realize many, if not most of them, display characteristics that some would attribute to a form of OCD. Do you have OCD? Do you think it could have anything to do with writing code for so many years?
Hi Paul, I would proceed cautiously before applying a "label" like "OCD" to myself or anyone else. The presence of a few behavior patterns at the low-level of frequency of repetition you describe doesn't mean "pathology." I would encourage you to consider the "big picture" : are you feeling connected to other people vs. isolated; are you able to have nourishing friendships and relaionships vs. are you lonely or you feel your social skills have "atrophied." If you feel/think these behaviors you describe are occurring because of personal feelings of loss or depression, that's one thing; if they seem to you to be related to period of intense stress in work or social life, that's another. Diet, health, exercise, satisfaction in love and sex, satisfaction in emotional relationships, meaningful work : all, imho, factors in the "big picture." For myself I have noticed that since I became a programmer (in my late thirties [1980] after a career in socal science and psychotherapy)I have become ever more slovenly and dis-organized in my personal space :) best, Bill the Antique
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